Bloody Elbow September MMA Meta-Rankings: Heavyweight
| Fighter | Points | Promotion | Last Rank |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Fedor Emelianenko | 499 | Affliction/M-1 | 1 |
| 2. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera | 478 | UFC | 2 |
| 3. Andrei Arlovski | 433 | Affliction | 4 |
| 4. Josh Barnett | 431 | Affliction/WVR | 5 |
| 5. Fabricio Werdum | 399 | UFC | 6 |
| 6. Tim Sylvia | 392 | Affliction/Adrenaline | 7 |
| 7. Randy Couture | 370 | UFC | 3 |
| 8. Gabriel Gonzaga | 320 | UFC | 8 |
| 9. Mirko Filipovic | 268 | DREAM | 9 |
| 10. Ben Rothwell | 212 | Affliction/Adrenaline | 10 |
| 11. Aleksander Emelianenko | 205 | Affliction | 11 |
| 12. Frank Mir | 167 | UFC | 12 |
| 13. Alistair Overeem | 150 | DREAM | 16 |
| 14. Cheick Kongo | 134 | UFC | 14 |
| 15. Sergei Kharitonov | 131 | DREAM | 15 |
| 16. Roy Nelson | 122 | Affliction | 19 |
| 17. Brock Lesnar | 107 | UFC | 18 |
| 18. Heath Herring | 106 | UFC | 13 |
| 19. Antonio Silva | 95 | EliteXC | 20 |
| 20. Cain Velasquez | 94 | UFC | 17 |
| 20. Jeff Monson | 94 | ??? | 24 |
| 22. Pedro Rizzo | 86 | Affliction | 21 |
| 23. Marcio Cruz | 79 | WVR | 23 |
| 24. Jake O'Brien | 79 | UFC | 21 |
| 25. Mark Hunt | 61 | DREAM | 25 |
| 25. Travis Wiuff | 61 | WVR | NR |
Another month, another installment of the meta-rankings. This month we added some new sources -- particularly noteworthy is Fight Magazine's new computer generated ranking system. Go check it out and let me know if it's so stupid that I shouldn't include them anymore. They're not bad at heavyweight but seem to overvalue holding titles in smaller organizations and there are some really funny outcomes in other weight divisions.
In the heavyweights, Randy Couture is being punished for inactivity as several of the major ranking sites drop fighters with more than a year without fighting. Otherwise the top 10 is pretty static.
Alistair Overeem's surge can probably be attributed to the hype around his fight tomorrow with Cro Cop -- I'm guessing many rankers had been sleeping on Alistair's recent win streak until they read the DREAM.6 previews.
It's really a bummer that Travis Wiuff won't be fighting Roger Gracie at Sengoku, that would have been an excellent test for the grappling phenom. But I'm beginning to doubt that Roger is serious about being a top level MMA competitor. It's also a drag that Mighty Mo had to drop out of his DREAM.6 fight with Kharitinov, I'd like to see Sergei back in the mix.
On the other hand, its cool to see that Josh Barnett will be on the Sengoku VI card.

Based on the premise that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink. instead of putting up our own subjective fighter rankings, we compile and average the rankings of every source we could find online.
The goal is to show how the MMA community rates the fighters, not to bore you with our opinions.
Be sure and look at the points, they're a much more telling number than the ranking. There's clearly a huge gulf between the top 9 fighters and those that follow.
A total of 44 fighters were ranked in the top 25 by one source or another, for reasons of sanity I only track the top 25 (26 due to a tie) most highly rated fighters.
25 points are awarded for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. Fuller explanation below.
Rankings were compiled from the following sites: FightMatrix, Fight Magazine, MMA 4 Real, Total-MMA, Houston Chronicle/Brawl Sports, MMA/VT (Japan), Inside MMA/HDNet, MMA Playground, Five Ounces of Pain, MMA On Tap, CagePotato, Sherdog, MMA Weekly, 411 Mania, Inside Fighting, TAGG Radio, Full Contact Fighter, MMA-ELO, MMA Fighting, and WAMMA. Figure 4 Online hadn't updated -- or if they had I couldn't find the column.
The normalization scheme as explained by JCS of FightMatrix is here:
The “normalization number” (new name) would be:
120
divided by
(Total Fighters Found in Any List minus 10)Every fighter found somewhere else, but on a Top 10 list would be assigned this number.
The “normalization” number would not apply to a fighter not found on a Top 25 list. They would simply get 0.
So the process would be:
Do all of the Top 25 lists first, #1 = 25, #2 = 24…. #24 = 2, #25 = 1
Do all of the Top 10 lists, same scoring structure.. stops at #10 = 16Figure out that normalization variable.
Fill in the normalization variable to all fighters not found in the Top 10 lists, but found elsewhere.
Do your totals and rank.
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just a correction on your table, I thought Nelson signed with Affliction?
by pr0cs on Sep 22, 2008 12:44 PM EDT 0 recs
I look forward to reading the meta-rankings every month. I love the number crunching but I don’t have time to do it myself. Thanks!!
by MoFaux on Sep 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT 0 recs
Was Shane Carwin on any of the lists you saw?
XBOX live gamertag: BANE509...I would die tonight for my beliefs.
by Christian on Sep 22, 2008 12:53 PM EDT 0 recs
yeah
Carwin is ranked around #32 (not accounting for ties) with 54 points.
by Kid Nate on
Sep 22, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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I think Carwin’s gonna demolish Neil Wain at UFC 89 and will start popping up on more lists next month…
by Chris Nelson on
Sep 22, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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that's as close to a given
as MMA gets.
That and Cain Velasquez demolishing al Turk.
by Kid Nate on
Sep 22, 2008 3:12 PM EDT
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Shoulda waited later in the week..
For the DREAM show.. Then again, most sites are behind a week anyway.
by JCS_FM on Sep 22, 2008 3:16 PM EDT 0 recs
I was rushing to get it out before the show
since most sites only update once a month.
If only everyone was as conscientious as you guys!
by Kid Nate on
Sep 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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I expect to finally see some significant movement in these rankings over the next couple of months.
"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"
by BJJDenver on Sep 22, 2008 3:24 PM EDT 0 recs
yeah
but I have no idea where he’ll be fighting next, and who knows they may need a last minute heavyweight again soon.
by Kid Nate on
Sep 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Fight Magazine, eh?
Trying to outdo me (FightMatrix)?
Eric Esch at #31? Give me a break. HARDONK at #17.
by JCS_FM on Sep 22, 2008 4:35 PM EDT 0 recs
dude wait until
you see their middleweight rankings — they’ve got some just awful shit in there.
by Kid Nate on
Sep 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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I just saw them....
Wow…what the hell?
http://www.fightmagazine.com/mma-rankings/mma-middleweight-rankings.asp
Akiyama at #3?!
Bisping at #6?!
Marquardt at 20-something?!
Franklin at #9?!
I think my brain just blue-screened.
by Tonley on
Sep 22, 2008 5:56 PM EDT
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The Pitbull !
Glad to see Arlovski get the rank he deserves! Keep it up BloodyElbow
by BLOody MEss on Sep 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT 0 recs
we just report the findings
remember the Meta-rankings are just a compilation of rankings by MMA sites around the web, not our opinion.
by Kid Nate on
Sep 22, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Surprised...
not to see the Fedor lovers commenting all day about how great he is in this post
Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com
by Rob Dib on Sep 22, 2008 8:58 PM EDT 0 recs
thankfully this site is not like that (and why this is the only MMA site I visit daily).
by pr0cs on
Sep 22, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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Man Fight Magazines rankings have taken the peanut boat to monkey town.
Somehow Marcus Davis scored 3rd place at welterweight. Tis slightly baffling.
Always enjoy the Meta Rankings. Tis the only rankings I care to look at.
by SamCupitt on Sep 23, 2008 11:09 AM EDT 0 recs









