UFC Fight Night 15 Full Results and Fight of the Night Bonuses

by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2008 9:22 AM EDT in News Comment 21 comments

Nate-diaz_josh-neer_medium Nate Diaz def. Josh Neer via split decision (28-29, 29-28, 29-28).

Clay Guida def. Mac Danzig via unanimous decision (30-27, 29-28, 29-28).

Alan Belcher def. Ed Herman via split decision (29-28, 28-29, 29-28).

Eric Schafer def. Houston Alexander via submission (arm-triangle choke) -- Round 1, 4:53.

Alessio Sakara def. Joe Vedepo via knockout (head kick) -- Round 1, 1:27.

Wilson Gouveia def. Ryan Jensen via submission (arm-bar) -- Round 2, 2:04.

Joe Lauzon def. Kyle Bradley via TKO (strikes) -- Round 2, 1:34

Jason Brilz def. Brad Morris via TKO (strikes) -- Round 2, 2:54.

Mike Massenzio def. Drew McFedries via submission (kimura) -- Round 1, 1:28.

Dan Miller def. Rob Kimmons via submission (rear-naked choke) -- Round 1, 1:27

Fight of the Night: Nate Diaz vs. Josh Neer
Submission of the Night: Wilson Gouveia.
Knockout of the Night: Alessio Sakara

Some promising developments coming out of the undercard for the UFC. Former IFL champ Dan Miller took his first step up the UFC middleweight ladder with a deconstruction of Xtreme Couture's Rob Kimmons. Kimmons was coming off a UFC win of his own so hopefully we'll see him back as well.

Mike Massenzio, another IFL vet and teammate of Jon Jones, is also on his way up after submitting Team Militech's Drew McFedries. Massenzio has a decision win over Dan Miller from their days on the smaller circuits. Perhaps a rematch is in order.

Jason Brilz showed he could hang at the UFC level with a win over Aussie Brad Morris. Brilz has a King of the Cage split decision win over Jason "Don't Call Me a Gatekeeper" MacDonald, could be the makings of a rematch there but I'd say let Brilz get a couple more wins first.

TUF veteran Joe Lauzon survived a scare in the first round (you could hear the bookies knees getting weak all over Vegas as the -600 favorite got rocked). Lauzon goes back into the just a couple wins out of contention pile in the packed UFC lightweight class.

And Wilson Gouveia and Alessio Sakara showed they can beat journeymen at 185. Maybe the two of them should be matched up to see if either can build up some steam at middleweight.

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Diaz

looks to be a good sub guy, but what is going to happen when he goes against someone who is a strong striker and has good wrestling? He got extremely lucky against Pellegrino & was getting his ass handed to him until he caught that triangle. He apparently punches with the exact same power he uses on the bag during the actual fight, or he just does not have any power. Neer stood there and let him throw punch after punch after punch and never showed any signs that any of those shots hurt. He did not even move

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2008 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sakara vs Gouviea

Won’t happen, both are ATT products. They will not fight each other.

by Nick Travaglini on Sep 18, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You beat me to it. Happy to see Sakara win.

by JacRabbit on Sep 18, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fight Night

Was it just my TV or were there only 3 televised fights? Belcher-Herman, Alexander-Schaffer, Diaz-Neer. I was really hoping to see Danzig-Guida.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2008 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Must have just been you. The Houston Alexander/Eric Schafer fight was the first televised bout.

by Kierkegaard on Sep 18, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

… and Guida/Danzig was definitely televised. I was there, so I haven’t watched the dvr yet, but the Belcher/Herman fight was a prelim and not guaranteed to be televised.

It looks like you somehow missed out on two fights that were definitely televised.

by Kierkegaard on Sep 18, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Danzig v Guida was televised, and a full three rounds so you couldn’t have missed it.

by mythbuster on Sep 18, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it was just locally here in Dallas, because I recorded from 7-10 on Spike and the only fights that were on was Alexander-Schaffer, Herman-Belcher, Diaz-Neer. I was waiting for the Danzig fight but the TUF show came on right after the Diaz fight.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I had issues with my dvr as well. The last round of Diaz’s fight was cut off and the last fight on TUF was cut off as well.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 18, 2008 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s because the shows went on 10 minutes after the time they were supposed to end.

by IHateMMA on Sep 18, 2008 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sucks, cuz it sounds like the Danzig-Guida fight was a barn burner.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't call it a barnburner

It was a classic case of 2 good fighters neutralizing each other. Danzig was doing better standing but not doing any damage. He made a run at getting a submission in the 3rd but gave up position to do so.
Guida got several takedowns but didn’t really do any GnP and never threatened a submission.
Honestly I am kind of baffled by all the love for Guida. I mean I love him too but his fights aren’t that exciting except when he’s in against other wrestlers who can reverse him. Against BJJ guys he’s a snooze.

by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2008 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Nate, I appreciate it. Guida’s pace just seems to be too much for guys that are not pure wrestlers. If he could learn some better striking and/or subs he might be able to push himself to the next level & at least challenge some of the top guys.

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he just didn't have the reach to stand

with Danzig.
IMO Clay should move to 145 and the WEC. i think a Guida/Faber match would be money. So would Pulver/Guida or Garcia/Guida

by Kid Nate on Sep 18, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nice suggestion, I would love to see those matchups happen.

Speaking of the WEC:
I heard rumors a few months back that Carlos Condit was going to possibly be moved to the UFC. Do you think there is anything to this, and if so would he be able to compete in the UFC?

by dnevil001 on Sep 18, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The problem is...

money. As long as the WEC pays so low in comparison to the UFC (and that’s not even factoring in the sponsorship dollars you lose not being on UFC shows), Guida will be like a lot of guys who could easily make 145, but choose to hang around in the UFC lw division for the paycheque.

by AJB on Sep 18, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Danzig has pretty crappy reach though too.

I honestly think Guida’s main weakness on the feet is his hair. More than once he was using his right hand to hold his hair out of the way during the fight.

by George Lucas on Sep 18, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Diaz is going to be able to hold his own with most of the lightweights in the UFC. His strikes aren’t very powerful but he doesn’t need them to be. He should work on his takedowns and use the stirkes as a way to open the takedown up for him. He did that a few times last night. I was very impressed with his sub defense. Guida is an animal. The dude’s gas tank is always full.

by asmiley420 on Sep 18, 2008 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Off the subject

Hey guys, i´m trying to understand some of the terminology you are using since i can´t watch the UFN because they only show PPV here in Brazil.
So i´m in doubt about 2 terms, the Arm Triangle and the D’arc Choke.
I´m guessing the Arm Triangle is the Kata-Gatame – Ex: Lyoto Machida used on Soukdjou.
And the D’arce choke is that Anaconde Choke that Nogueira used on Heath Hearing on the Pride 2004 Tournament, or you guys say D’arce choke to the one that is on a 90 angle instead of the headlock position used on Anaconda Choke?
Thanks in advance i have to go back to work now, catch you guys later.

by bigcherry on Sep 18, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

D’arce and Anaconda are the same as an application, they just have different entry points. Anaconda is applied when both fighters are belly down and one fighter uses shoulder pressure on top to slide in the arm under the throat and behind one armpit. Then you gator roll the opponent and walk into him.

The D’arce is the same head and arm combination but is usually applied with the aggressor on top applying the choke while his opponent is on his hip.

Think of it this way: the D’arce choke and Brabo are the same. Why the different name? Joe D’arce just patented a different entry into the choke, but D’arce, Brabo and Anaconda all involve using one arm to slide under opponent’s throat and behind or under the arm pit to choke.

by Luke Thomas on Sep 18, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs