Quote of the Day: The Ultimate Fighter 8

3 Sentences.

1 Bro
3 Dudes
3 Dogs

by mythbuster on Sep 12, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And 2 Criminals! lol

I already want to see this guy laying on the mat moaning

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I seriously laughed with this comment.

by pr0cs on Sep 12, 2008 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL@ that quote…especially this part

“I be conquering mother f*ckers dude, period, you know what I mean, pillaging, sh*t like that. Thats where I belong bro – criminal dog, straight up criminal.”

http://mma4real.net/

by Tha Realness on Sep 12, 2008 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s just trying to put fear into the other guys.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He probably is, but would you really say that anyone would be scared of a guy who talks about conquering like Hitler and being a straight criminal? lol

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe where he comes from – that is intimidating. Hopefully, we’ll get more insight on his background.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love fighters who are fucking nuts

Anyone remember Crazy Horse Bennett? Favorite Pride guy ever.

This guy isn’t quite War Machine – but pretty good nonetheless.

by subo on Sep 12, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So you probably think it’s okay that Affliction associates mma with hell?

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure everyone will be clamoring to get behind and support the guy who says he “belongs” with Hitler.

No idea who this guy is, but he already sounds like the kind of tool you hope gets ktfo quickly.

by Kierkegaard on Sep 12, 2008 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sadly, the offensive part was his usage of 'dog'.

by Slica on Sep 12, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He sounds like a classy lad.

"No one makes me bleed my own blood."

by monkeyfightclub! on Sep 12, 2008 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hope the only parallel between those 3 that he is drawing is that they are dead.

Because he sounds like a P.o.S.

But other than that, does anyone else feel these are the two best coaches TuF has ever had? Saw both the “Meet the Coach” interviews and they both came off very respectful of each other and their jobs and both seem to take it seriously. I personally would rather learn from Nog just because I like his style and his tenacity more, but Mir is no slouch either and would be an excellent coach to have.

by DirtyML on Sep 12, 2008 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I heard there are a bunch of knuckleheads on the show this season, who do some extremely distasteful things, lol. So it should be a good season!

After hearing about some of the things that go on, but we dont see, I can understand why some of these guys are so unhappy with the house/living conditions.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

For example?

by mythbuster on Sep 12, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think most of us realize the confined living arrangements and testosterone levels can make things a little…interesting, lol.

From what I understand, people’s food gets messed with pretty bad. Like grounds for manslaughter, bad. Bodily fluids on the other teams dinner for example. and I don;t mean spitting saliva.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is really personal conflicts, not living conditions. A lot of these guys are young and immature. That is really what causes these issues.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would chalk it up to the conditions. you are putting many guys in a relatively confined space with nothing to do in their free time. This is deliberate in order to create conflicts and thus ratings. They have nothing much to pass the time, so they end up pulling pranks and the like. i just think you are right about some being immature and thinking some things are acceptable, when they in no way are.

Also, the fighters were told if they damaged the house, they would be required to pay for the repairs. Not sure if they always have done that or it is a new rule.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good point,

I do agree this is deliberate to ensure some drama. But if they are going to make these guys pay for damages and hopefully if they spooge on someone’s food some of this will go by the wayside. This has to be somewhat of a learn as you go process also. Finding out how they can still put on an entertaining show without damaging the reputation of MMA for the casual fan or fan that does not get into it much.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with the fighters paying for any damage to the house. They need to show respect by taking care of the living arragements that have been provided for them.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, me to. i think it has just snowballed over the seasons, to the point of being disgusting.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least the UFC appears to understand that MMA reputation is sometimes being damaged by guys destroying the house every year

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, i really hope they tone that down some.

Of course, this is the same show that chastised guys for streetfighting and damaging the reputation of the sport, but has repeatedly showed the conflict.

I think it is just hard to balance doing things the right way and making the show dramatic and getting the ratings.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Completely agree,

After all this is still a business and you have to find a happy medium between all of this.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would appreciate if they’d display the real side of these men. Share their upbringing and their achievements thus far and why this opportunity is so important to them. Every season we do see a few men who are serious about this and have placed a meaning to what they are trying to accomplish on the show. I’ll be honest, I don’t like the one’s who are on the show like it’s a fad or cool to be a fighter.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed.

I wish they would find a way to follow some of the guys at their home lives or their training before/after the show.

Any one can be put in a house and train with these coaches. i would like to see what it is they do when they are on their own and where they come from.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

saying in addition to the show as it is.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That would be nice, hopefully that is something they will consider for future shows.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From what I understand, people’s food gets messed with pretty bad. Like grounds for manslaughter, bad. Bodily fluids on the other teams dinner for example. and I don;t mean spitting saliva.

ugh… sorry I asked :P

by mythbuster on Sep 12, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

exactly.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That pisses me off now and I haven’t even seen the episode yet.

Don’t they realize the image they are portraying for the sport?

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I really do not think that will make the cut. Upper deckers and putting lime juice in someone’s dip not withstanding, that is a far cry from someone depositing personal fluids in someone elses food on national tv

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even if they don’t show the person actually doing it, the idea or notion that someone has done that is just as bad.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

agree

and lets hope that is not even mentioned during an actual episode

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

While that is disgusting, how could the UFC stop these idiots from doing something like that? This was probably leaked by someone on the production team.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

24/7 cameras

They know whats happening,and could easily step in and stop it. In fact I believe that if they DON’T stop it, they could face a huge lawsuit.

There was something several years ago on Big Brother (shut up…) where one contestant put someone elses toothbrush in the toilet and scrubbed. She was forced to tell him before he used it. Stuff like that could cause tons of problems.

by mythbuster on Sep 12, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I remember that on Big Brother, and maybe they made sure A. the person who’s food it was did not eat it, and B. made the guy tell him & hopefully kicked him out.

I know one thing for sure, if I was on the production team I would not come anywhere near a guy in the act to try and stop him.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you’d let this person commit the act, then say something?

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

YES!

If this moron is that much of a jackass, I would not physically be anywhere near him. I would get on the intercom or something like they do in BB

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

You have a point.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that BB does a great job of not actually interfering during these times. They do however, step in after when necessary which this is obviously a time to

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah,

Other than no sex or communication everything is taken care of and that is what they signed on for. So what is there to be unhappy about?

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, several fighters from past shows, Mike Dolce for example have complained.

Don;t misunderstand, these guys get to live and train for free. get tons of clothing, etc.. But it is much harder to get something like egg whites, than it is vodka, for example.

Many of these guys aren’t 19 year old frat guys, they are men with wives and kids and such. living in close confines can get a little testy at times, as we have seen.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree somewhat,

but it still comes down to personal issues. These guys never seem to be underfed or malnourished. There may be some dicks that jack with guys foods, but the same bs happens in locker rooms and dorms across the country.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No doubt they are taken care of. i’m not implying that they are put on an island and left to fend for themselves. What I’m saying, is if a fighter asks for chicken breast, it may take a day or two/ But if the want booz, it takes about twenty minutes.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you all are saying that they turn into animals because they don’t have tv or telephones?

I have never thought it was okay for them to tear up the house or to do disgusting pranks like the upper decker – that is just retarded.

Man has come a long way – don’t give these guys excuses for acting like asses.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol, no but if I didn’t have a tv I might go a little crazy. We all go a little crazy sometimes (name that movie).

They are just getting put under the microscope in optimum conditions.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A) Psycho

B) Totally agree. Yes, they do turn into animals because they are put in that situation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

Above is an article on the Stanford experiment that took normal people and told them that they were to act like prisoners and guards.

Those were just normal people. These are all alpha males jockeying for position, locked in a house with no contact with the outside world, fighting all day, and drinking free drinks all nights. On top of that they’ve seen how they are “supposed” to act through viewing previous seasons of the show.

As BJJ said, the conditions are optimum for trouble and they are filmed 24 hours a day.

by Day Man on Sep 12, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha, great call on the TUF / Stanford Prison Experiment comparison, can’t believe that never occurred to me

by Chris Nelson on Sep 12, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice 1

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was my point, there are other shows like this where the people are cut off from the outside world and this does not go on. These guys need to be accountable for their actions.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yes.

I think we all know it is a tv show, and we can understand how guys get drunk or a little crowded and do or say things they otherwise might not. BUT, there is always a line that shouldn;t be crossed, and I think sometimes it does.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

10-4

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Overall, I think the show brings new fans in and in that way, is good for the sport. It gives fighters opportunities to succeed at the sports highest level.

few people want to tune in and watch a college graduate reading a book or dropping some knowledge, lol. They want to see the other side of that person, when they lose control or are at their worst. Unfortunately, that is what makes the ratings for many viewers.

Cant wait, i think it is going to be a good season.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

To a certain degree I would agree with you, but the show did Jesse Taylor and MMA no favors by showing that JT was immature by pissing on himself and in the hot tub.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

definitely one (or several) of my least favorite TUF moments.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Sep 12, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Personally

I wish they would focus more on the training than on the drama.

by mythbuster on Sep 12, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, but they want to show the personalities of these guys as well. This develops either fans or people that hate these guys which means people follow the sport.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure I agree with you. In my biased opinion, it seems like the focus on only the douchebags because they stand out. I could be wrong though. I’m from the camp where I like to see the guys train and then watch the fights. The dorm room hijinks have been played out in my opinion.

"No one makes me bleed my own blood."

by monkeyfightclub! on Sep 12, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Showing more of the training can be drama too. Just look at Jeremy Mays and Gabe Rudeigar. A lot of training drama with Matt Hughes and BJ Penn.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Showing more training would be nice, but guys like Jeremy Mays are real douchebags that just make sure people not really familiar with the sport think all MMA guys are like him.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or it just shows how much the sport is growing and even though some people don’t have the heart or desire for it, they want the fame that comes with it.

We all seen the effectiveness of Jeremy-jitsu.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, Jeremy-jitsu was extremely effective for one fight! lol

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes,

I do think that they are doing a good job of mixing in veterans to sort of control these young guys that are unable to handle it.

It seemed like they showed Jesse pissing on himself in every episode for the last few weeks. While awfully funny, it is embarassing.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think it sets men back a few dark ages and adds to the stereotype of athletic men or should I say jocks?

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's one thing for a fighter to be dumb enough to compare himself to Hitler ...

but how the hell does the PR staff at Zuffa ever let that quote see the light of day? They should have taken the memory card out of that camera, stepped on it, and burned it.

by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Sep 12, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ratings!

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree somewhat,

but I think he was only making that comparison in regards to conquering leaders. I think we need to hear some of this stuff so you truly know what a fighter is about.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I said that eariler – this might be a person who has an education in history or philosophy – and is trying to intimidate his opponents.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, I’ll take the other side of that bet.

by Day Man on Sep 12, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The intimidation is a safer bet, huh.

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Haha, yea most likely.

by Day Man on Sep 12, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure which surprises me more — that this “dog” actually said he belongs in the same company as Hitler, or that you’re actually burning brain cells trying to put a positive spin on it for him for some unknown reason.

:)

by Kierkegaard on Sep 12, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like to give people benefit of the doubt. Given that I have not seen the show yet, it’s kinda fun just to speculate now – so when the season begins – I can say “yeah, what an a$$hole” or “wow, he’s just an educated gangster”

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

While I do agree that was his intent, he does not seem too educated “straight criminal dog”
Any reasonable person is not going to give a remark like this any real consideration.

by dnevil001 on Sep 12, 2008 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You know the more I think about it, he may have been a sheltered kid and does not want that part of him exposed. He wants to come off as aggressive as possible – like in the prison movies. I mean do guys really say “dog” anymore?

"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007

by lovingmma25 on Sep 12, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs