Why Carlos Condit Belongs In The UFC

by Tha Realness on Aug 4, 2008 10:36 AM EDT Comment 16 comments

If you missed last night’s WEC 35 event…as a MMA fan…you lost. A tough opponent and near exhaustion couldn’t break “The Natural Born Killer”, and that performance alone was enough to justify him fighting in the crowded WW division of the UFC. Carlos Condit displayed the heart of a champion as he defended his WEC WW belt for the third time. That is a scary thought, but that’s just the tip of his resume at the ripe age of twenty four.

Condit is largely unknown to the casual fan, as he has fought in primarily smaller shows throughout his career such as the WEC, Pancrase, and Rumble On The Rock. While he hasn’t faced the upper echelon of fighters at 170lbs, he has faced some formidable opponents. Jake Shields, Frank Trigg, Renato Verissimo, and Carlo Prater just to name a few. Physically, Condit doesn’t look like much…but he’s well versed in all facets of the game which reflects in his win/loss record. He has 9 wins by KO/TKO, and 13 wins via submission. Which means he has finished his opponent in all 22 of his wins. The #1 ranked WW(GSP) in world can’t even say that.

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At least the facial hair made him look a little tougher, lol.

What a great fight that was, from both fighters. I think Condit could fit in the UFC WW division nicely, but I still think he could have some trouble with the top guys. he definitely belongs in the big leagues.

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by BJJDenver on Aug 4, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea

I don’t think he beats the top guys…but he’d fit right in the middle of that division.

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by Tha Realness on Aug 4, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would love to see him fight Diego Sanchez or Josh Koscheck.

by lovingmma25 on Aug 4, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just to play devil’s advocate a little bit … should Condit have had this much trouble with Miura? Is it really just a matter of Miura’s style causing problems for him? Condit seemed to win every round, but he also took some pretty clean punishment and was tossed around like a rag-doll by Miura on numerous occasions. I can’t imagine that Miura would fare very well against the mid to upper level guys in the UFC right now, so seeing how much difficulty Condit actually had against him makes me hesitate to say Condit should be fighting those guys in the UFC. He showed a ton of heart and didn’t quit … but I’m not so sure he should have needed that much heart to win this one.

by Kierkegaard on Aug 4, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Japanese fighters are not that easy to get by – at least that is what I have seen so far. Miura is a judo expert and that was something Condit had to train for aside from his usual training regimen.

by lovingmma25 on Aug 4, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

Let me put it this way…if they let Luke Cummo and Josh Haynes fight in the UFC…Condit definitely belongs there.

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by Tha Realness on Aug 4, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OMG, no you didn’t. You went there.

Josh Haynes really, really, tried. He had the will and heart, just everything else was not so well put together. Plus he had a sob story.

Luke Cummo really looked good against Joe Stevenson; not sure what happened after that.

by lovingmma25 on Aug 4, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes, I did...lol

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by Tha Realness on Aug 4, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Here are a couple of others

Corey Hill. Rob Emerson. The vegetarian “what’s his name?” Ed “Short Fuse” Herman. They all fought in the UFC – (Emerson has a fight coming up next week) and I don’t think any of them would fare much better in the WEC. Hill sucks, Emerson always finds a way to lose or look really boring – the vegetarian is mostly talk & Ed Herman went away quietly. There are guys in the WEC who should be in the UFC & vice versa. Same with EXC & Affliction – they each have fighters who are UFC caliber. That’s why the other promotions need to succeed and then negotiate some cross-promotion.

by toogie on Aug 4, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Do you mean Mac Danzig? He’s a “vegan” not a “vegetarian.” And he’s in the UFC because he won TUF—and also won his only UFC fight so far. Not sure why he doesn’t deserve to be in the UFC.

Rob Emerson hasn’t fought much in the UFC after TUF, but he won his one fight. His record includes only one loss since the beginning of 2005, to Guillard. Not sure why you say he “always finds a way to lose.”

Ed Herman is a guy who sometimes looks good, sometimes not. He hasn’t really gone away quietly, though. He tapped to Maia in April (not a bad thing—Maia is the shiznit) and is on the Fight Night card in September. Since coming into the UFC, though, he did submit Scott Smith. Condit might be as deserving as Herman, but I think Herman’s place in the UFC is largely because of TUF.

Corey Hill has only been given two UFC fights since TUF, winning one and losing one. Pretty early to tell if he will be able to hang in the UFC, but his length is something so unusual that it helps give him a reason to be given a shot.

by Kierkegaard on Aug 4, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

(btw … I make the comment about “vegan” vs. “vegetarian” because I have a friend who is a vegan who gets all offended if you say he’s “vegetarian.” It doesn’t seem like a huge distinction to me, but it is to him, and may be to someone like Danzig, too. I don’t know.)

by Kierkegaard on Aug 4, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a fellow vegan, being called a ‘vegetarian’ is extremely offensive. Thank you for clarifying.

by steak_knife on Aug 4, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

condit is a good fighter and he could definitely hang with the 170lbers in the ufc we’ll never know until it happens but i think he has the tool set to be effective. miura is no slouch so we should discredit condit because he didn’t turn in a dominating performance. the one thing i did notice is that condit didn’t appear to be explosive during the fight. his knees in the clinch looked lazy. that’s one reason miura was able to toss him around from the clinch. if he wants to really compete with some of the stronger 170lbers in the ufc, i feel he needs to increase his explosiveness.

by trialplayer on Aug 5, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

sorry for the typos and lack of punctuation. but i hope it’s clear that we SHOULD NOT discredit condit based on the miura fight.

by trialplayer on Aug 5, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, Condit could stand to put on some mass…

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by Tha Realness on Aug 5, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Codit

I don’t know if this has been brought up but WTF was up with the ref…. i mean every time Condit was on top of Miura… the ref would let it go… with in two seconds of miura being on top of Condit.. the ref would stop it.. it was a JOKE.. and at the end the ref is joking around with Condit like they are buddies. at the en of the fight i really felt i got ripped off. almost as if the ref was waiting for an opportunity to stop the fight in favor of Condit. I’m not saying it wasn’t a great fight… but still WTF. the ref just seemed way to biased…..

by alcamus on Aug 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs