Who Is Heavyweight Champion of The World?
Currently in the MMA world we have three people who can make a claim on being the heavyweight champion of the world. Those are Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira, Randy Couture, and Fedor Emelianenko. For the sake of argument I am looking at Nogueira as interim world champ, Couture as UFC champ (since he never lost the belt and is still considered under contract with Zuffa) and Emelianenko is the newly crowned WAMMA Heavyweight Champion, which I consider an accomplishment since he will have to defend the title against top contenders in what may be the deepest heavyweight roster in MMA, over at Affliction.
Looking back at the last 5 fights these guys have had, they have all faced one similar opponent (Tim Sylvia), and all three have beat him:
Emelianenko (5-0) has wins over Tim Sylvia, Hong-Man Choi, Middleweight Matt Lindland, Mark Hunt, and Mark Coleman.
Nogueira (4-1) with wins over Tim Sylvia, Heath Herring, Josh Barnett, and Fabricio Werdum w/ one loss to Barnett
Couture (3-2) with wins over Gabrial Gonzaga, Tim Sylvia, and Mike Van Arsdale w/ two losses, both to Chuck Liddell.
So out of these 3 who is the real heavyweight champion of the world? All three men have beaten Tim Sylvia (1-3 in his last 4 fights w/ the only win against a guy who should be a light heavyweight (Brandon Vera). Emelianenko has beaten Nogueira, while Couture and Nogueira have never met. Couture is almost closing in on the one year mark since he last fought, while Emelianenko and Nogueira have fought twice in that same time frame. It would be unfair to not recognize Couture as a champion since he never officially lost the belt, but it’s hard to recognize a guy as a champion who has not fought in a year. Emelianenko holds two wins over Nogueira, but lately has not been fighting top competition. Nogueira looked sloppy in both his fights with Herring (where he looked finished in the 1st round) and took a pounding for two rounds before submitting Sylvia.
From my perspective, and I am a huge UFC fan, I think Emelianenko can lay claim to the claim of being the top heavyweight champion in mixed martial arts. Nogueira has looked a little sloppy his last two fights and also is 0-2 against Emelianenko. Randy Couture has not competed in over a year so we don’t know how well he could have done against a guy like Nogueira. Overall, Emelianenko holds wins over more notable heavyweights (Cro Cop in his prime (2x), Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman, Ricardo Arona, and Heath Herring) than Nogueira and Couture. He also finished Tim Sylvia quicker than either one of them (Couture dominated a 5 round unanimous decision, while Nogueira took a pounding for two plus rounds before submitting the big man).
I am sure this debate will continue until all the fighters are under the same promotion's banner. A return to the octagon by Couture, and a subsequent win over Nogueira, could eventually lead down the road to a super fight with Emelianenko. That seems unlikely to happen for now, so it seems we may be debating “Who is the undisputed heavyweight chamption” on message boards for a few more years to come.
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I really don’t think there is any debate.
by steak_knife on Aug 3, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think...
there has to be some debate. Being that Fedor and Couture have yet to meet.
by Jerret Anderson on Aug 3, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No
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by Tha Realness on Aug 3, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Jerret has the right idea here. In a perfect world, Couture and Nog would fight, and then a unification match would be set up between that winner and Fedor. But since a certain UFC higher up is greedy and power mad, there is no possibility of this happening.
by Cmad77 on Aug 4, 2008 11:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You Mean
Since a fighter decided not to honor his contract…there is no possibility of this happening.
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by Tha Realness on Aug 4, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s real. Dana wants the fight to happen and was doing everything he could to make it happen.
by lovingmma25 on Aug 4, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Randy may not be saying it, but I know he has to be kicking himself in the ass for what he has done. It has been a year and yet no fight with Fedor and the looks of it not happening at all. He could have still been fighting keeping himself fresh and proving why he is called “The Natural” and “Captain America”. Now he has gone a year without a fight – who knows how much longer he’ll go without a fight. So when he finally does fight Fedor – and loses he can blame it on the fact that it has been a year(s) since his last fight and wha wha wha.
by lovingmma25 on Aug 4, 2008 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed for the most part. Could you imagine what kind of bargaining power Randy might have had, if he had finished out his contract successfully?? UFC would have paid big, imo.
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by BJJDenver on Aug 4, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
which would add even more hype to his fight with Fedor. Given the time that has passed already he could have fought Big Nog – possibly won – coached alongside Mir on TUF – and be prepping for a fight with Mir at the end of TUF. Either way it goes, he wouldn’t be fighting Fedor until next year as it is b/c Fedor wants to fight in Japan on NYE
by lovingmma25 on Aug 4, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know...
I would be kicking myself if I were him. He could have had a match with Nogueira out of the way, and probably would have had a hefty pay check out of it. Instead he continues to pay lawyers and wrangle in the legal system all the while with no fights on the horizon. With all the appeals that take place in our system it could easily be AT LEAST a year before he is even allowed to fight again.
by Jerret Anderson on Aug 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs














