Antonio Silva, Edwin Dewees Fail Drug Tests
by Michael Rome on Aug 21, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
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PrintOne big and one small.
From Affliction, it was Edwin Dewees.
From EliteXC, it was the Heavyweight Champion, Antonio Silva.
Credit to Bryan Alvarez.
[UPDATE] by Nick Thomas - More details from MMAWeekly:
- Dewees tested positive for Nandrolone "The level of drug in Dewees’ system, 499ng/mL, far outstrips other high profile fighters who have been ensnared by the CSAC since it began drug testing in March of 2006."
- Silva tested positive for Boldenone, "an anabolic steroid mainly veterinarian in nature" "According to Douglas, the CSAC does not record the level of Boldenone in a fighter’s system, as the drug’s long half-life in the body make false positives extremely unlikely."
- Both men have been suspended one year from the July 19 bout, and have been fined $2,500
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I know Silva is a big deal, but they didn’t even put him on the main card on CBS so how big is it really. I mean I care, but who else does?
EliteXC has no champion now...
Their champ cheated and was paid 200k… talk about a kick to the nuts of an organization already going down the drain…
I knew it was Dewees also like I said on the other post yesterday just go look at his body and musle tone in his last few previous fights with Trigg,Cory McDonald and Richard Blake then look at his body and mussle structure when he foguht little NOG. It was so dam obvious there Baby Face. A few of my friends and I even said something about how much mussle he put on when we were watching him during Affliction.
lol
“One big and one small.”
Is Silva supposed to be the big one? O_o Like szucconi said above, who really cares for him.
People who are interested in up-and-coming fighters? Silva was one of, if not the, top heavyweight prospects around.
by Chris Nelson on Aug 21, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
Does this taint his belt? Wonder why they didnt put his fight on CBS…
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 21, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
His belt is no more meaningless now than it was when he first got it.
by George Lucas on Aug 21, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
- Dewees tested positive for Nandrolone
“The level of drug in Dewees’ system, 499ng/mL, far outstrips other high profile fighters who have been ensnared by the CSAC since it began drug testing in March of 2006.”
- Silva tested positive for Boldenone, “an anabolic steroid mainly veterinarian in nature”
“According to Douglas, the CSAC does not record the level of Boldenone in a fighter’s system, as the drug’s long half-life in the body make false positives extremely unlikely.”
- Both men have been suspended one year from the July 19 bout, and have been fined $2,500
....ouch
a full year?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Since when is reducing to six automatic? It rarely happens. Sherk’s case was clusterfucked, that’s why he got a reduction. His case was mishandled.
It’s been automatic since James Toney got his reduced to six months on an argument consisting of:
- swearing at CSAC board members (calling them assholes and whatnot)
- claiming he was set up (despite roiding two years earlier)
- saying someone tampered with his water bottle
Resulting in a CSAC board member, over protests by CSAC medical personnel, saying that Toney should be granted a reduction because he is a ‘high-profile athlete who should be given the benefit of the doubt.’ *Note: there was no doubt.
And that is why suspension reductions are automatic now. Sean Sherk, Phil Baroni, you can both thank James Toney. :)
by ilostmydog on Aug 21, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
EliteXC is doomed
Having your Heavyweight champion test positive and get suspended a year is a pretty crippling blow. What are they gonna do, hold a squash match and give the strap to Kimbo?
actually this may be a blessing in disguise for elite xc silva was on a ridiculous contract $200,000 per more than shields lawler or carano
im betting on hermann vs rogers at the november showtime show for the vacant title
Good call on Herman vs. Rogers. That’s actually not a bad fight, and if Rogers wins it sets EXC up nicely for him vs. Kimbo on their first PPV. (Assuming they’re still alive.)
I heard Silva has received an offer from the Easter Island tourism committee to be buried up to his neck in sand.
by Chris Nelson on Aug 21, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A post on the UG:
On Behalf of Antonio " Big Foot" Silva, as his Manager I come to this forum to declare Antonios innocence. These are Antonios words:
Dear Family, Friends, Fans and Public, I did not use the steroid Boldenone, or any other steroid of prohibited substance. I dont agree and never have agreed with the use of this kind of product in order to win, for this is cheating. I will go to the full extent of my power and the law to prove my innocence in this matter.
More from AJDavis:
You know, I do understand the skeptism…I have felt it myself, but this time I know for sure that this Athlete, that happens to be my guy, didnt take this steroid ot any other..why? Because he cant, he cant mess around with his hormone levels at the risk of ending up with a serious health problem….but let me throw out a few points here…we are pros, why would we risk something like this when we know we would be fighting under the harshest comission in the world? Why would we use a product thats designed for Horses? Honestly, beisides all the reasons I have allready posted, it would be plain stupid…and we will prove it
More:
No, you must understand, Antonio has acromegaly, we operated on his pituitary, he has been constantly being getting examined, he has 1 daughter and another one on the way, it would ne extremly foolish for him to take something like this, and he knows it…we have known this ever since we understood his condition, it would be beyond his fighting, it be a risk to his health, and he wouldnt take it, nor would we let him.
It seems more like they’re trying to say that Silva’s condition produces an abnormally high level of growth hormones naturally, so it would be dangerous for him to take steroids. But I’m no doctor, so I have no idea if that’s even remotely valid.
I enjoy watching Silva fight so I hope he and his management are telling the truth, but as everyone is saying, with the CSAC it’s gonna be a long hard road to get this reduced or overturned even if they are.
by Chris Nelson on Aug 21, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Usually, the treatment for acromegaly
is to remove, at the very least, a significant portion of the pituitary gland, which is located in the middle of the brain, and regulates many hormone levels in the body (often referred to as the Master Gland, for this reason) including Human Growth Hormone.
People who have this surgery, as his manager/whoever is alleging, often times have to stay on a strict regimen of hormone replacement in order to maintain their normal body state. Sometimes surgery is a cure in itself, but usually there are lifelong medications which must be administered.
So yeah, it would be the height of stupidity for a recovering acromegalic (?) to be taking PED’s.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
That's it!
Maybe they accidently transplanted a horse Master Gland into him?
“We can rebuild him. We have the technology. We can make him better than he was. Better…stronger…more equine….”
This is pretty much it, yeah. My brother’s gf had a growth on her pituitary removed due to surgery, and a classmate of mine had the same condition as Silva, and both have to be EXTREMELY careful of what goes into their bodies. Even a shift in diet can send things sidewise, causing erratic behaviour, lethargy, narcolepsy, or hyper-aggression, tension, etc., as well as digestive system problems, blood pressure problems, even problems with the production of essential components of joint padding and ligaments. And that’s just from diet. They can’t even take over the counter pain killers without clearance from a doctor, as for one of them, ibuprofin (things like Advil) could cause them to drop dead.
So there you go. It’s serious shit.
I read the last line with the comma misplaced,
after the second word instead of the first. Was headscratching for a second..
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Aug 21, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
So much for that third heavyweight belt
Some people think this isn’t a big deal because Silva isn’t a widely known commodity. It is a huge deal. It devalues an already nearly-without-value title and it takes away perhaps XC’s most talented fighter (easily the most talented heavy) for 12 months.
I will say this.. Roids to fight Justin Eilers?
it’s hard to do cartwheels when your head weighs 85 lbs.
by George Lucas on Aug 21, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Silvia is a huge deal. It was their up and coming star and the HW champ. I think Elite needs to quickly set up a Kimbo vs Rogers fight to get a new title holder in there. They need to pray Kimbo wins.
Now I know !!!
This makes a hell of alot of sence now With Big Foot his cardio looked like shit in his last fight with Rico and guess what the steriod he was taking Boldenone is used to increease stamina and cardio.
to put it in perspective,
Sean Sherk 12ng/mL
Royce Gracie over 50ng/mL (“Both samples provided by Mr. Gracie had a level of over 50 ng/mL and we were informed that the level itself was so elevated that it would not register on the laboratory’s calibrator.” -CSAC release)
Edwin Dewees 499ng/mL
limit is 2ng/mL for men
I’m not saying Silva is innocent, but there certainly is something strange. With all the medicals he has to go through, it would be a huge risk to do something illegal.
I almost wish they could be proven innocent, just to show how messed up the CSAC is, but I doubt that happens.
"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"
I wonder if they got a false positive from the horomones in his system being out of whack to start with? I’m no expert on the technical aspects of testing, but I wonder if it’s a possibility.
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