EliteXC and Affliction Drug Test Failures Will be Announced Tomorrow

by Michael Rome on Aug 20, 2008 9:57 PM EDT in News Comment 41 comments

Dave Meltzer reports that the California State Athletic Comission has announced that there was one failure for drugs on each show, and the people who failed will be announced tomorrow. No word on why they're turning this into such a dramatic event:

Bill Douglas of the CSAC released that B samples have been returned positive for one fighter on both the July 19th Affliction show in Anaheim and the July 25 EliteXC CBS card in Stockton.

The names will be released tomorrow after notification of the promotions and fighters. Douglas also announced Fabio Negao and Matt Lindland on the Affliction show are clear, as are Robbie Lawler and Scott Smith on the EliteXC show.

I guess results are slowly coming in, and they're just going to announce them as they come. These could be the first failures of many, or the only ones.

Here is the list of fighters that have been cleared on each show so far. Just as a reminder, Justin Levens was suspended.

Affliction:

Ray Lizama
Gary Goodridge
Paul Buentello
Terry Martin
Vitor Belfort
JJ Ambrose
Mike Pyle
Mike Whitehead
Renato Sobral
Savant Young
Mark Hominick
Pedo Rizzo
Josh Barnett
Ben Rothwell
Andrei Arlovski
Fabio Negao
Matt Lindland

EliteXC:

Brandon Tarn
Drew Montgomery
Mike Cook
Carl Seumanutafa
Marlon Matias
David Douglas
Jeremy Freitag
Anthony Ruiz
Bryan Caraway
Wilson Reis
Travis Galbraith
Rafael Feijao
Shayna Baszler
Cristiane Cyborg Santos
Thomas Denny
Nick Diaz
Scott Smith
Robbie Lawler

On the Affliction side, this leaves only Fedor Emelianenko, Tim Sylvia, Antonio Nogueira, and Edwin Dewees. I can only imagine what will happen if it's Fedor, but we do know Tim has been popped for it before.

On the Pro Elite side, we have Jake Shields, Nick Thompson, Antonio Silva, and Justin Eilers.

My list comes from Bryan Alvarez who just posted a full list on his board. The information is publicly available too. I'm a little concerned about posting this because of all the speculation it will cause, and it could turn out to be nothing, but it sounds like we will have at least one major drug failure tomorrow, unless it turns out to be Edwin Dewees and Justin Eilers.

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Maybe who it was makes it big. Not sure but I guess that could make a difference. Barnett or Silvia for example, would be big news. Might also spell a death blow to Afflictions next card. Who knows.

by Tommy7 on Aug 20, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Exciting stuff.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Aug 20, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’d love it if we had a list of all the fighters that have been cleared so far. I know it’s out there somewhere as I’ve seen it before – it was a news item some time ago. Argh, if only I could spend more time in the blogosphere.

by ghettoiam on Aug 20, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I can do this for you. One sec.

by Michael Rome on Aug 20, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From memory Sylva and Fedor are the only fighters left on the Affliction show that haven’t been cleared.

by rabrown on Aug 20, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This seems like a ridiculous way to do things on the CSAC’s part. They’ve certainly added drama.

by Cannon Jacques on Aug 20, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think the only people uncleared on Affliction are Nogueira, Dewees, Fedor, and Tim. Am I missing anyone?

by Michael Rome on Aug 20, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It IS the CSAC

I wouldn’t be surprised if this ends up being a huge mess.

by Blackout612 on Aug 20, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The only deal killer will be Fedor then. I just can’t see that happening, no way it’s Fedor. More like Silvia or Dewees and neither one is a big deal. Would make Tim go home in forever though. Bigfoot or Jake hurts Elite but they (elitexc) seem to be sinking anyway. Any press is probably good to them right now.

by Tommy7 on Aug 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I seem to recall reading an article where Fedor says something to the effect that he’s not afraid to stick needles in himself. Anyone else remember something like that?

by Carl P on Aug 20, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

With his brother's (alleged) Hep B

status, it actually seems this may have occurred in their lives. I’m not talking drugs so much as PED’s. It’s too bad that Aleks was medically unclear to fight..that must be hard, living in his brother’s shadow.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tim wanted to try to get a six pack again.

by IHateMMA on Aug 20, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shoulda gone to the local 7-11.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 20, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Edwin Dewees IS pretty freakin huge now. My money is on him.

by nitro on Aug 21, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Same Hear !!!!

Nitro I am thinking the same dam thing also look at what Dewees looked like at his fights with Trigg,Cory McDonald and Richard Blake then look at his body and mussle structure when he foguht little NOG. I might be wrong but If I were to bet my loot would be one the baby face also ???? WHO KNOWS though.

by Shocbomb on Aug 21, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We are all on the same page then.

by zeroword on Aug 21, 2008 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s almost always the guy who lost. Does that narrow it down any?

by Benicio on Aug 21, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No it’s not.

There are plenty of people who have won fights and tested positive.

by Phildo on Aug 21, 2008 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe I just notice the ones who test positive after losing. Call it my keen sense of irony or some shit…

by Benicio on Aug 21, 2008 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve actually noticed that too. I don’t have any statistics or anything, but the almost every time I’ve heard of someone being popped for banned substances, he or she lost the fight (usually in the first round).

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by Lucas2 on Aug 21, 2008 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This certainly seems to be the case in baseball.

Only the sucksters test positive for ‘roids..at least they’re the only ones who get the results waved around in public. The only impact guy I can remember testing positive was Juan Rincon, a power bullpen arm for the Twins. Everyone else seemed like bad/worse pitchers.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 21, 2008 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rafael Palmeiro was a pretty big name that got popped for Roids during the season.

by Shocbomb on Aug 21, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dewees has taken a butt load of losses lately. Just speculation though really. Has it said what they were postive for yet at least? Seems odd for the commish to know and not release right away no?

by Tommy7 on Aug 21, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

They are waiting to contact the fighters, they shouldn’t find out from a media source. Why they announced that they were making an announcement, is beyond me.

by Phildo on Aug 21, 2008 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So

A UFC tests positive for weed and is suspended, and somehow nobody finds out for three months. Now under the same Athletic Comission, fighters from EXC and Affliction test positive and it becomes this hyped-up event. Very interesting.

by smoogy on Aug 21, 2008 1:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

UFC fighter, I should say

by smoogy on Aug 21, 2008 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are you kazja13?

This all started cause one guy, Bill Douglas, was on a radio show and said that initial results suggested there would be failures based on their initial results, and they were now being verified.

by Michael Rome on Aug 21, 2008 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, and now he is revealing that all will be revealed tomorrow. It all seems a little unusual and dramatic.

by smoogy on Aug 21, 2008 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the drama and hyperbole is warranted given his perspective on his job. He wants to deter athletes from dangerous short-term payoffs and eliminate unfair competition. The fines and suspensions are intended to deter use.

Since having a big deal made out of your positive results can be so bad for your career and nearly impossible to recover from, it makes sense to make the biggest deterring spectacle possible out of each “positive.”

Shoot, I think they should make it even more fun. Include photos of the fighter’s elbow or cauli ear and see if we can “Guess the Roider!”

by asa on Aug 21, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

On a related note

Shane Carwin is one of the guys who looks ~~IMO~~ like he used to be on the gas but cleared-out his system before his first UFC fight. I may be totally wrong, but if not, I’m glad. The more deterred, the better.

by asa on Aug 21, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Smoogy your whole conspiracy Theory between the UFC and the California State Athletic Comission pretty much fails. Hello do you remember what happend to Sherk ??? Plus why would the California State Athletic Comission be in bed with the UFC? They hardly ever go to Cali if anyhting orgs like Strike Force and Elite Xc put more $$$ in there state then the UFC.

by Shocbomb on Aug 21, 2008 2:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I REALLY doubt..

that it ends up being Tim. I just can’t see him trying it again after getting popped once. I just think he knows better…but maybe I’m just giving people too much credit.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Aug 21, 2008 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think you’re right. It’ll probably end up being Dewees.

by Michael Rome on Aug 21, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This probably goes to the irresponsibility mentioned in the article,

but imagine if it WERE Fedor? Dana would have an absolute field day with that one. How many times would we hear “The Natural” uttered when comparing Randy and Fedor from now on?

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 21, 2008 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes it would be basically the greatest day in a long time for Dana White.

I don’t think it will be Fedor. I just think he’s not that stupid, and has way too much to lose. However, the fact that they’re making this huge drama of it suggests to me there will be at least one decent sized name.

by Michael Rome on Aug 21, 2008 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's certainly the implication.

But these regulatory officials are so full of themselves, they’d probably be doing this regardless.

I hate the types of people that generally fill those roles. Leeches, all.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 21, 2008 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's certainly the implication.

But these regulatory officials are so full of themselves, they’d probably be doing this regardless.

I hate the types of people that generally fill those roles. Leeches, all.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 21, 2008 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Fedor is on ‘roids, he should take them back for a refund. One look at his ’physique’ should be proof enough.

by idefinecagefighter on Aug 21, 2008 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Generally speaking,

the types of steroids that fighters take tend to be for endurance, rather than strength. Football players are all about strength, even baseball players go for the ones that allow muscle fiber to be re-built faster, so they can increase their quickness in certain muscle groups. But for what I’ve seen, or read mention of, is boxers and MMA guys usually get busted for the stamina/endurance enhancers, rather than the muscle builders.

But yeah, Fedor does always look a little too ‘real’ to be a world-class fighter.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Aug 21, 2008 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its gonna be Dewees and I think the “big” name will be Nick Thomson or Silva. Thomson has had to spend his time studying for the bar and maybe just needed a little boost for training or Silva is missing the added strength he had when he was near 300 lbs and was trying to add strength.

by skwirrl on Aug 21, 2008 5:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs