No matter which way you slice it, this is bad news for Jackson; if true, Rampage certainly will be faced with a civil suit at the very least if expert medical opinion is found that the incident even partially contributed to her miscarriage. I feel heart sorry for the woman and her fiance.

I will wait for the official word rather than rely on the words of the boyfriend who already has an attorney under is belt (no offense Day).

Sweet shit, this just gets worse and worse… Even if the two events are completely disconnected, a civil trial would only have to show that there’s a possible reasonable connection. Rampage is in some serious hot water.

this happening in california. I’m about 95% sure if they file a civil suit they will win. The California Court system almost always sides with the victim, even if there’s minimal evidence. That really sucks for rampage.

there is no question Rampage will be paying them some cash…just because he has some…

Rob Dib
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Horrible news. The woman was 38… it’s going to be hard for her to try again.

The #1 cause of miscarriages is Trama to the Womb. I would not be surprised at all if it was the accident that caused her miscarriage. And if that is the case Rampage should be made to pay Millions and possibly be brought up on Manslaughter charges ? But it would also not surprise me a t all if the accident had nothing what so ever do do with it and they are just looking to make $$$$$. Who knows all I know is it does not look good for rampage win or loose he is going to be paying out Millions in lawyer Bills. I dout we will see him back fighting any time soon if Ever ?

I’d like to feel bad for the woman but it’s also very hard to ignore the money grubbing factor. ...To be honest, I’ll probably sue him too; miscarriage or not. Opportunity knockin’.

A post from the UG:

I used to work bodily injury insurance claims. I handled a minor rear-end accident where the claimant vehicle had sustained $1600 worth of damage (not much in the world of car repair). At the time the claimant was 2 months pregnant and claimed back injuries as a result of the accident. For treatment she began to see a chiropractor. She treated 6 times in the span of a month, which is not a lot of treatment- maybe $600.00 worth of bills.

A few months later the woman got around to looking to settle her claim and responded to one of my follow-up calls with a letter asking for $10,000.00. If you don’t think this is an outrageous amount for the circumstances I laid out than you don’t understand fair compensation and are probably a greedy person. Her claim was worth at most $1800.00 (this does not include the damage to the vehicle, they are handled sepereately).

So I was surprised and tried to get her to understand the reality of what her claim is worth and in response she let me know she had had a miscarriage and should get paid more. I told her I would need medical documentation that showed a link to the minor accident and a miscarriage which had occurred 2 months later. She let me know she had no documentation but knew they were linked because of all she had to deal with as a result of the stressful claim.

I was stunned because all that had happened was a minor loss, a dubious (probably fake) injury, her car was taken care of immediately, and then two months later she lost her baby at what would have been about 16 months. So what happened? The woman threatened to get an attorney if she didn’t get $10k but a few days later she called with no attorney and asked for $3k. What happened is no attorney would take her case because they knew there was no money in it and her miscarriage was obviously not linked.

She eventually settled for like $2k.Do I believe she used her miscarriage to try and get money? Yes. And this was not some broke, crack head, this was a successful, normal woman who just wanted some extra cash and wasn’t above using a miscarriage to try and get it.

So how does this relate to Rampage? Don’t know. I just rather wait to see if the doctors say the two events are related. The one thing that really jumps out at me is the time between the events, the lack of info about how he “injured” her, no attorney involvement, and the woman’s age (38). If there is a link you are looking at a million dollar + claim that can easily be obtained in a settlement. You have Rampage to get money from, his insurance, and possibly Toyo Tires, yet the couple are the ones talking to the press, not an attorney on their behalf. Something doesn’t smell right and it is the mechanism of her injury. How did he injure her? Sideswiped her car and then the baby was lost a few weeks later? I obviously am not a doctor but miscarriages don’t often happen as a result of a car accident and a sideswipe? I’d have to see the damage. I just need more info before I start acting like a fucking spaz on a message board.

Another post from the UG:

I’ve done a little research on the California laws concerning how developed a fetus has to be to be considered a viable life and whether or not causing a death while committing a felony means you’ll be charged with murder. Granted I’m no lawyer, but this is the info I’ve gathered.

First and foremost, Rampage hasn’t been charged yet. It’s all going to depend on what the medical evidence says caused the miscarraige.

In California, the 38 year-old fetal homicide law says, “murder to include the ’’unlawful killing’’ of a fetus beyond seven or eight weeks development.” She was 16 weeks pregnant. If found to be the cause of her miscarriage, it will be considered killing a human being.

In California, “If a person kills while committing a felony that is inherently dangerous to human life other than arson, burglary, etc. the person will be found guilty of second degree murder. For example, if the defendant furnishes heroin to someone who uses it and dies of an overdose, the defendant probably will be charged with murder in the second degree. Under the law it is assumed that if the defendant had the specific intention to furnish the heroin, he or she had malice enough to be charged with murder.”

“California lists some 20 different special circumstances that can boost a murder from second to first degree, including murder carried out for financial gain; murder committed with an explosive; MURDER COMMITTED TO AVOID OR PREVENT A LAWFUL ARREST; MURDER TO PERFECT OR ATTEMPT AN ESCAPE FROM LAWFUL CUSTODY; murder of a law enforcement officer, prosecutor, judge, or elected, appointed, or former government official; murder committed in an especially heinous, atrocious, or cruel fashion where the killer lay in wait for, or hid from, the victim; murder where the victim was tortured by the killer; murder where the killer used poison; or murder where the killing occurred during the commission of, aid of, or flight from certain felonies. These felonies include rape, robbery, kidnapping, burglary, arson, train wrecking, sodomy, the performance of a lewd or lascivious act upon a child under age 14, and oral copulation with a child under age 14 (Cal. Penal Code § 190.2 [West 1996]).”

Ok, so if the accident is found to be the cause of the miscarriage, Rampage could face first-degree murder charges, second-degree murder charges, and at the very least vehicular manslaughter.

Regarding vehicular manslaughter, “Vehicular manslaughter may be charged when a driver causes an accident (either by violating a traffic law or by exercising negligence or “gross negligence”) and the accident causes the death of another person.”

“If the vehicular manslaughter does not involve gross negligence, the prosecutor may charge it as a misdemeanor or a felony, depending on the circumstances. Vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence can only be charged as a felony.”

That gets us to what is gross negligence? “Gross negligence is defined as driving without caution and without concern for the safety of others. It means a high level of recklessness. But a charge of “vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence” may not be based merely upon driving under the influence of alcohol. Other facts must be present, for example speeding, racing, running traffic lights, and/or ignoring the advice of others not to drive.”

What are the penalties for vehicular manslaughter in Cali? “If the offense is a misdemeanor, up to one year in the county jail. If felony DUI vehicular manslaughter (but without gross negligence) is found, the sentence can be up to four years in state prison. If felony DUI vehicular manslaughter with gross negligence is found, the court can impose up to 10 years state prison. Substantial drivers license suspensions may also be imposed.”

If charged with second degree murder, “Sentencing for murder varies from state to state, and according to degrees in the states that have them. Second-degree murder usually is punished with more than 20 years in prison. A person convicted of second-degree murder in Minnesota, for example, may be sentenced to prison for not more than 40 years. Some states, such as California, allow a sentence up to life in prison for second-degree murder.”

*Info derived from legal-dictionary.com and an article titled “California Law on Killing Fetus Is Strengthened” by Dean E. Murphy published April 6, 2004.

First off, it is sad that they lost their unborn child, end of discussion on that.

Second, I still have no facts surrounding Rampage’s behavior or what caused it, so i can’t determine if or how much he was at fault for this. What if he was on painkillers prescribed by UFC doctors and had an adverse reaction? Couldn’t the UFC then be on the hook as well? Just to many questions for me to form an opinion.

However, the one thing that bothers me, is, I have read that the woman was in no way struck or involved in the traffic collisions. Not sure if that is accurate, but it what I have been reading in several places. If her stress from the incident caused the miscarriage, then she probably shouldn’t have been on the road in the first place and I don’t think they could blame Rampage. I don’t think she is money grubbing, but when people experience traumatic events, they usually look for a place to put the blame, thus making it easier for them to recover emotionally.