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Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El Train Mixed Martial Arts in Football Offseason

Because they were inspired by Kimbo Slice, no less:

Moss was intrigued by the training regimen in part because he had taken an interest in the career of another Miami-based athlete, Kevin Ferguson - known to most as the street fighter-turned-Internet sensation-turned-MMA star Kimbo Slice.

So Moss started working with Intorn, who grew up in the same part of Miami and also went to college at The U. Intorn has worked out several NFL players, including Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson and Santana's little brother, Sinorice. He also trains professional kickboxers.

"It is funny, but when I get some of these [NFL] guys for their first workout with me, after the first five or 10 minutes they are on the ground dying - literally," Intorn said. "They say, 'I've never worked out like this before.' After they are with me I can see the transformation. They are more cut, and they make it through the workouts."

Moss isn't alone with his new-wave training techniques. The team's other starting wideout, Antwaan Randle El, also incorporated some mixed martial arts training into his offseason.

How the alternative methods affect Moss and Randle El long term remains to be seen, but there have been some immediate effects.

"If it was just run, run, run - that's something I could do, but I was losing some of my muscle mass. But I'm not losing as much this year," Randle El said. "I think the grappling [helps]. When you are on the ground wrestling with a guy - that's how it is when you catch a ball and you're tussling with a guy and trying to get out."

Added Intorn: "I think it definitely gives them better movability and more flexibility. I'm one of those guys who doesn't think you have to just always lift a ton of weights."

I don't know that grappling necessarily helps that much with shaking tackles or stripping flaccid-armed running backs, but it's noteworthy to see high profile professional athletes in a different sport embrace aspects of MMA and acknowledge their usefulness on multiple accounts.

Interesting to note, though, is the origin of their inspiration: Kimbo Slice. I am very hesitant to draw any racial insights here, but people do have a very normal proclivity for sameness. And for better or worse, there are likely millions of African American young men and teenagers who can personally identity with Kimbo Slice more readily than they can with Chuck Liddell or Rich Franklin. The same is probably true for Rampage. My hope is that the UFC and other MMA promotions can use their Latin and African American stars to better attract members of their respective demographics to the sport, both high and low profile. America's minority communities aren't as deeply enmeshed in MMA from a fan or participatory standpoint as they could be (As a small example, when it comes time for a UFC event, I never hear African American fighters on the local radio stations with large African American audiences selling the event.). I don't know that Kimbo Slice should necessarily be the poster boy for minority outreach efforts, but that those efforts could be buttressed with existing accomplished fighters seems to me incontestable.

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thats pretty much the way it is out here in Cali

People usually cheer for their kind, especially if they dont know who the guys are.

Like when Oscar fought PBF, the bar was split with all the mexican fans rooting for oscar and the black fans rooting for Floyd

Same with Rampage vs Chuck.

I thin people just identify with the guys more because they come from similar backgrounds and struggles

by Jimmy Shaker on Aug 12, 2008 3:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Basic Sociology I guess. Same reason why I see so many black guys at the golf courses now as well – trying to be like Tiger Woods.

by lovingmma25 on Aug 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes and no...

Let’s also not forget that sports like golf and, yes, jiu jitsu are becoming far more accessible than they once were. With golf, it was a combination of straight up cash – and black communities in the US still exist at a much lower income level than white communities – and skin colour that created a barrier to a lot of people. Recently, golf has become less elitist in that there are cheaper golf courses available, and also (somewhat) less racist. While younger people may have been inspired by Tiger, if they couldn’t afford to play or were outright barred based on skin colour, the point would be moot. With something like jiu jitsu, it’s a little different: until relatively recently it was just damn near impossible to find a reputable place to train in some cities, especially in some inner cities. There wasn’t the level of active exclusion, but the relative rarity of the sport, along with the reluctance to get into anything that seems a bit “alien” (and I’m speaking from my own experience getting into jiu jitsu), created similar barriers. Those who were “in” were usually brought in by someone close to them; it hasn’t been the norm for all that long that someone would just walk up to a place and ask to start training jiu jitsu (and in time terms, I’m talking about a couple of decades or so).

And you can say the rules change for guys with money like these NFL stars, but there are still places in North America where all the money in the world doesn’t change the social opinion that a black person should “know their place”, resulting in exclusion and discrimination. THankfully the number of these places is dwindling (though I hear that latinos don’t have it so well in many parts of the US these days).

So all that’s to say that I think there’s a combination of increased access, which is crystalized by the involvement of someone like Kimbo, and a lot of athletic, competitive, (mostly) young people realizing for the first time, “Hey, I can do that!” It’s not always a case of emulation as much as it is a growing number of people seeing others like them walking through a door that had traditionally been closed, and deciding to take a shot at walking through it too.

by AJB on Aug 12, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Holy crap, that was long. Sorry guys!

by AJB on Aug 12, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

More on football and MMA

I saw this story over on ESPN a while back. Note that Michael Westbrook reportedly beat Jarrod Brunch (former NFL player) in a King of the Cage event. Pretty interesting to also hear about Lorenzo Neal helping to train Chuck Liddell. I think I heard on talk radio once that Sean Merriman trains in the offseason with Dean Lister.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3070589

As for the issue of race in MMA … think back to 2005 and the first two installments of TUF. The first 4 coaches that introduced so many new mainstream viewers (including myself) to MMA – Couture, Liddell, Hughes, and Franklin – were all guys who could so easily be identified with middle-class white America. It’s hard to tell how significant that really is with regard to MMA’s fanbase, but you never know. I wouldn’t dismiss it as totally insignificant.

by dmayeda on Aug 12, 2008 5:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Randle El should spend more time training for football.

by Richard on Aug 12, 2008 5:21 PM EDT   0 recs

true.. they should be running routes.. are they gonna have an MMA career after football?

Rob Dib
http://www.break-your-face.com

by Rob Dib on Aug 12, 2008 5:37 PM EDT   0 recs

MMA and BJJ seem to be an interesting transition for NFL players. Westbrook won the Mundials purple belt this year, and my friend just beat Jarrod Bunch to win the No-Gi Mundials last weekend. Apparently Bunch has been tearing up the mat at purple belt no-gi. Carlton Haselrig, marcus Jones, Bunch, Westbrook and others are doing MMA.

I also think a lot of these guys, 20-40 year old males, are the demographic for mma as fans. i recently sat behind Jay Cutler at the UFN 13. So it may be the easy transition that many of us make, from fan to competitor.

Also, these guys are big time competitors, so this may be a way for them to keep that going after their football careers are over. The way i see it, is the more mainstream athletes in mma/bjj, the more acceptance it will receive.

"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"

by BJJDenver on Aug 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT   0 recs

If I were their teams, I’d forbid them to do MMA while they were under contract. Too easy to get hurt, especially for newcomers to the sport who might use their athleticism instead of technique. And even experienced guys have their share of injuries, so it’s just prudent to avoid doing anything unnecessary like a non-MMA athlete training MMA or riding a motorcycle (see Jay Williams or Ben Roethlisberger).

by Pantherhare on Aug 13, 2008 1:53 AM EDT   0 recs

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