Sound and Fury Alert: UFC 87 Not Much Different Than a Street Fight Edition
Tom Powers of the St. Paul Pioneer Press attended his first UFC event live and while he admits the fighters are tough, that MMA is a sport and "skill [is] involved", he seems to believe it's the most barbaric act known to mankind. And on his way towards doing so, he rehashes every anachronistic misleading canard regarding our beloved sport. Here are some choice clips:
You know it's a rough sport when the crowd boos a fighter for taking too long to recover from a knee to the groin. Gasping and choking for such a protracted length of time, he bored the audience. UFC: 87 at Target Center Saturday night was quite an experience. As it turns out, mixed martial arts fighting is much different in person than it is on TV. Home viewers can't get a sense of the blood lust emanating from the stands. And they can't see the sweat and small pieces of artery flying out of the octagon. This is the new "big thing," of course. Non-stop cartoon violence come to life for the Internet Age. It's as vicious as cockfighting, except you can't deep fry and eat the loser on a bun. Although a lot of fighters that looked like hamburger limped past the press table after their bouts. And those were the winners. ... These are the toughest guys I've ever seen in any sport, gymnasium or prison yard. The sport is relatively new, so there aren't any long-term studies. But it's hard to believe any of the fighters will live long lives. Their internal organs must resemble oatmeal. They clearly have incredibly high pain thresholds. It was very interesting. Mixed martial arts fighting might be over the top, but it's a legitimate sport. There is skill involved. The combatants blend all the best techniques of boxing, wrestling, martial arts and first-degree assault. I've always believed that half the world is in therapy, and it's the wrong half. Well, this sport is for the other half. It's a way to release aggression, anxiety, anger and many other harmful feelings. Fans just have to watch the action and scream wildly for whichever fighter is kicking butt at that particular time. Their eyes and neck veins bulge. They lose their voice. Then they feel better. ... Granted, the way we're headed, the next "big thing" in this country will be the National Decapitation League. A couple of guys will be given machetes and thrust into a steel cage. The first one to lop off the other fellow's head will be declared the winner. We aren't there yet. But we're getting close. Mixed martial arts, despite all the different techniques and moves, still resembles street brawling but with a few key rules to maintain some semblance of decency. For example, spitting officially is not allowed. Neither is "putting a finger into any orifice" of any opponent. But I'm sure we'll soon have a breakaway association that allows spitting and orifice poking. From there, we're just a short step from the machetes. When a mainstream writer new to MMA readily admits he can't tell the difference between street fights and what happened at UFC 87, I'm done with them. I have been part of and witness to many street fights. To not recognize the difference between a street fight and a high-level MMA fight is akin to being unable to tell the difference between Sandro Botticelli's "The Birth of Venus" and a magazine cover of Ice T's CoCo. Powers' email here.
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Holy crap!
Exaggerate much?
What an ass, this guy is cluless indeed.
by xFenixKnightx on Aug 11, 2008 3:52 PM EDT 0 recs
The shame is..
..journalists that write about MMA in this vein have no idea how ignorant they appear to informed individuals that understand the complexities of our sport. Tom Powers is a mediocre, old-time sports writer that lives and dies by the belief that heavy-handed opinionations measure your value as a journalist.
I don’t think it’s too much to ask that sports journalists do their due dilligence in learning the in’s and out’s of mixed martial arts. If it is your career to write about spectator sports, there is no excuse to be so closed off to any sport that doesn’t involve a ball/puck/12 oz gloves.
I feel bad that we even regard this sector of the journalist community with any attention. Afterall, he (and those like him) makes a living drawing attention to his controversial musings. The bright side is, for every Tom Powers there’s a Jim Rome, bastioning our proud sport as a legitimate new contender in the American sports spectrum.
The ignorant guys can stay on that side of the fence, thank you very much..
by Blackout612 on Aug 11, 2008 4:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Cockfighting metaphor ...
Original. Never heard that before.
by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm
thinking about sending him an e-mail similar to the one LUKE posted earlier, regarding CRO COP :)
by asmiley420 on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT 0 recs
almost every thing this reporter said pissed me off but the #1 thing that gets me heated and bothered me the most is when he says a MMA fight is nothing more then a street fight ? A MMA fight and a street fight could not look and be more different. You can’t even compare the the two. 99% of people who have never seen MMA can see that the first time they watch MMA.
by Shocbomb on Aug 11, 2008 4:35 PM EDT 0 recs
Actually, the problem is..
..that it’s no where near 99%. Casual observers, or individuals that simply don’t like “when people fight” simply cannot differentiate. There are many people that believe that mixed martial artists are just dicks that want to hurt someone. Hell, even Wanderlei said in his post Jardine press conference that he prayed before hand that neither he nor his opponent are injured. The Axe Murderer didn’t want his opponent to get injured.
It is seriously beyond many people that this is a competitive sport and not just two guys seeing each other for the first time after one’s girl cheated on him with the other one.
by Blackout612 on
Aug 11, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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There are many people that believe that mixed martial artists are just dicks that want to hurt someone.
I really hope Lesnar can change that horrible misunderstanding.
by mythbuster on
Aug 11, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Not sure I follow, but..
Not everyone in MMA has to be a flagbearer.
by Blackout612 on
Aug 11, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
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Me too. That guy = inspiration.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on
Aug 11, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
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Dude has obviously never seen a street fight. I have seen plenty and that is not what you get in mma.
by lovingmma25 on Aug 11, 2008 4:50 PM EDT 0 recs
This is yet another example of someone making a joke out of somthing that they either fear, or can’t, or won’t allow himself to understand. If ignorance is bliss, then Tom Powers must be one happy guy.
by Cmad77 on Aug 11, 2008 5:05 PM EDT 0 recs
That's not sensationalist at all!
He is a moron and intelligent emails won’t change that. MMA is obviously too complex for him to understand.
by zeroword on Aug 11, 2008 5:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Pretty sure he has a full inbox…my email wouldn’t go through…lol. What’s his editor’s email address?
by Dabashire on Aug 11, 2008 5:42 PM EDT 0 recs
To be fair to that guy, he did witness Heath Herring get punched so hard he flew 6 feet and did a backflip.
Its hard for people who haven’t watched MMA to get a handle on whats going on. When I started watching, the ground game seemed like a chaotic jumble of limbs. Now I see it more clearly and appreciate it.
The crowd at MMA matches can get pretty wild and noisy. I can see how someone who is new to the sport, put into a UFC match for the first time, could get freaked out and start thinking of Roman gladiators and cock fights. He’s wrong, but I can see why he’d think that.
by toxic on Aug 11, 2008 5:43 PM EDT 0 recs
He needs to write about his feelings, or who’s getting elected. Leave the MMA to people who know something about it. I have seen street fights and there is usually no strategy involved… this guy is lost.
by Rob Dib on Aug 11, 2008 5:46 PM EDT 0 recs
You could help:
Go beat him up in the street outside his office. I’m sure he’ll see the difference within moments.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Aug 11, 2008 6:10 PM EDT 0 recs
This guy must have seen some pretty incredible street fights in his time to not be able to tell the difference between them and the UFC.
by Richard on Aug 11, 2008 6:31 PM EDT 0 recs
“Pieces of artery,” eh? Thanks for informing the public, guy.
by Carpal on Aug 11, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs
An article from another reporter sitting very close to this guy.
It shows he never bothered to give it a chance and had his story written by the time Fitch and St. Pierre were hugging in the middle of the ring for quite some time after their fight. That is why he never mentions that. Of course he probably wouldn’t have mentioned that anyway because it doesn’t fit with the story he wanted to write.
Here is the link:
http://www.postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?z=22&a=355937
by mattman73 on Aug 11, 2008 7:36 PM EDT 0 recs
I wrote about Tom’s article on the MMA Weekly forum. Folks should also go onto Twincities.com and respond directly to Tom’s peice.
I would also suggest writing to the editor leting him know what you think of this kind of coverage.
I will say that the other articles in the St. Paul paper were very positive.
by Lynchman on Aug 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT 0 recs
That’s really the best way to get back at a hack like this—if you send him an email calling him names you’re basically validating his erroneous portrayal of the sport. Even if you spend a lot of time crafting a thoughtful, intelligent critique he’ll a) ignore it b) write back and call you an ashole or c) take it out of context to suggest that you’re a bloodthirsty meth addict or something. I wrote some guy that did a column that was *way off base, suggesting that there were no rules and no referees in MMA. I spent about 45 minutes doing a respectful critique, refuting and clarifying all of his mischaracterizations. He wrote back saying, essentially that he could give a (f-bomb) what a bloodthirsty degenerate thinks.
When I first started writing for The Savage Science I’d do a post on every “MMA = barbaric human cockfighting” post, but I eventually quit. Basically, what’s the point? The “sport” that these morons decry doesn’t really exist outside of their deluded minds. The reality is that there are those who don’t like to watch fighting. That’s their business, but unfortunately cranks like this think that their opinion represents some sort of “trend” that other backwards sports writer hacks will join their “cause”. Its not much different than me trying to suggest that men’s gymnastics is somehow bad for our youth—only with MMA you have the visceral image of blood that they can use for their fear mongering.
The best way to get back at losers like this is to do what Lynchman says-write a letter to the editor pointing out just how off base the column is, how poorly researched and inaccurate it is, and so forth. There’s nothing that makes print journalist editors more upset than to suggest that their writers, and by association their paper, isn’t doing their research, playing fast and loose with facts, and essentially letting the writer’s personal agenda get in the way of his responsibility as a journalist. You don’t even need to say you’re a MMA fan-just point out where his facts are wrong, where he’s misinformed and so forth. A nice touch is to close with something like this—suggest that “if your articles on this sport are so inaccurate and poorly researched, how can we have confidence in the other topics your paper covers”.
I have the coolest mom in the world—she’s not much of a fight fan but any time she sees an article like this she writes a letter to the editor saying she’s a 60 year old grandmother and isn’t a fight fan, but that the reporter is way off base, doesn’t know his facts and that MMA fighters are serious athletes deserving of respect.
by savagescience on
Aug 12, 2008 4:45 AM EDT
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The part about all of this that bothers me
is the complete lack of evidence presented by opponents of MMA. I would think that injuries, specifically to the brain, would be significantly less severe than those experienced in boxing, since there are so few (comparatively) connected punches per fight.
Also, all the blood doesn’t really mean much..so many of those shots are superficial, caused by a Florian elbow or something similar. Torn skin is no fun, just ask Forrest, but it’s a heck of a lot better than a subdural hematoma.
If these people are opposed to blood, that’s fine. But they take it so much further without presenting any evidence to support their claims.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Aug 12, 2008 1:57 PM EDT 0 recs
It’s a classic case of people seeing what they want and expect to see. They come in expecting to see brutality and, lo and behold, find it. They don’t think they need evidence because, according to their (stunted) internal logic, their observations are obvious to anyone. That’s why so many of them also need to crap on the fans of the sport in addition to the sport itself: that educated, intelligent people could see something different from them means that their conclusions AREN’T simply obvious, which draws into question their logic, which points out their biases, and no one – especially those who have already put them down in print – wants their biases examined. And looking at the evidence might just force them to see themselves as wrong, and inside their own heads, they can’t take that risk.
I deal with the same thing all the time in anti-racism work. It’s the classic, “I’m not a racist, but… (insert racist statement based on “personal observation”)”, only turned against a sport instead of a skin colour. It’s incredibly hard to break through and some people will never let it go.
by AJB on
Aug 12, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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Cognitive Dissonance
is certainly one of the most powerful, and difficult to recognize (internally, anyways) psychological phenomena that human beings experience. Most people never realize they’re doing it, including people who are trained to recognize it in others.
You did a great job explaining it, though. Are you a psychologist? ;)
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on
Aug 12, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
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Critical political theorist specializing in Indigenous-Settler issues. Which is way less impressive than it sounds. “Guy who talks shit about stupid people using overly large words” is the alternative title.
by AJB on
Aug 12, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
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This post is impressive to me
because I feel quite certain that it’s dripping with sarcasm, but I can’t really prove it to myself.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on
Aug 12, 2008 11:11 PM EDT
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