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Rampage Jackson Update: "It All Involves Money"

Josh Gross has scored the first major story on Rampage Jackson:

Rampage's seismic shift from an idolized mixed martial artist began after he relinquished his title on points to Forrest Griffin UFC 86 on July 5. The decision to fire Juanito Ibarra, his trainer, manager and occasionally spiritual mentor, came shortly thereafter. A lack of food and sleep compounded unsettling behavior, and TMZ photos of Jackson face down in the street at the rear of his Bigfoot-inspired truck -- its left front tire shredded -- documented the result of a dangerous chase with police..

"Mentally he wasn't there," said the source. "It was almost as if he was possessed. He heard voices. He thought he was a God."

Talk amongst people in the house turned to the need for medical help. At first, they tried convincing Rampage to head for the hospital. That failed, tempers flared and police, thankfully, intervened. Several hours later, the fighter was under psychiatric hold...

Everything, save the pact between Jackson and Ibarra. With defeat as the impetus, Jackson responded to rough terrain by relieving the trainer of his duties, though "bottom line, somehow, someway it all involves money," said the fighter's friend.

The story also says Quinton/Wanderlei III could be on the November card if he is ready to fight again.  Someone at The Underground posted a thread over a week ago where they said Joe Rogan told people outside a club that Ibarra was stealing from Quinton, but I don't put any stock in it because people make things up to be important on message boards all the time.  There is no reason to believe it's true, but Ibarra's silence has been deafening since the incident.  Where is he?

This piece is must-read stuff.  Congratulations to Josh Gross on getting the story.

Update:  Unfortunately, some people are misreading this.  There has been speculation in Sherdog and UG forums for over a week now over a falling out between Quinton Jackson and Juanito Ibarra, and most of the speculation has centered around money.  Nobody has any evidence of this, but the fact that Quinton has already fired Juanito and is actively in the market for new management suggests that something major caused a rift between them.

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Good article. I hope that the Christian faith does not get a bad rapport for this incident. I think Quinton was just misguided in his Christian faith and when he became aware of it, that it was devastating and too much for him to handle at the time. It is sad to see when one puts their trust in another person and that person takes advantage.

by lovingmma25 on Jul 29, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think getting him another fight may end up being the best thing. It sounds like just having him sit at home all day might make him go insane, he needs to get into some kind of rhythm. Of course, I’d rather it be someone other than Wanderlei Silva, who knows what the hell he’ll do if he loses again to Wand.

by Michael Rome on Jul 29, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The good news is…he must be doing ok if they are talking about him fighting in November….and well…hell he might be fighting in November! Against Wanderlei of all people…

http://tharealness.wordpress.com/

by Tha Realness on Jul 29, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Good thing the folks at Yukes got Juanito into the UFC game. But hey, he can still corner Cheick Kongo, so it’s not a total loss.

by Brett Jones on Jul 29, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone on the UG also commented about Ibarra stealing from Quinton:

"This is true. Ibarra was fired after Quinton learned that Juanito had been stealing/embezzling money from him. It will come out in due time."

by Nick Thomas on Jul 29, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

This is crazy Soap opera drama. I pray Quinton gets back into the fight game and makes a speedy recovery

all you gotta do is...

by imapimp08 on Jul 29, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

If this is true Ibarra is absolutely an ass after all that talk about Rampage becoming a new person through his faith and training.

by Tonley on Jul 29, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Ibarra is an ass. All that talk about faith.. for what? To go against it and steal from somebody you train and supposedly look out for… I hope its not true but… we’ll see.

by asmiley420 on Jul 29, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

tonley…. the source is the sherdog forum….think about that for a second…....the sherdog forum…...if i were using the sherdog forum as a source i would make sure i had good lawyers on retainer….

by robnashville on Jul 29, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Source for info ?????

The source is some White belt on the Sherdog Forums ? I bet the Boston Globe or New York Post would run with that source for a headline story wiht out thinking twice ! What a solid and reliable source to have !!!! UNREAL

by Shocbomb on Jul 29, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another comment from someone on the UG: (I’m not sure if they are all using Sherdog as the source)

Joe Rogan was at the Improv in Dallas on July 20, and near the end of the show Joe asked if anyone had any questions for him, and the first thing someone yelled out was "Rampage". Joe said that Quinton had found out that juanito had been stealing from him, and that it just(obviously) set him off.

by Nick Thomas on Jul 29, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If i was rogan i’d get a good lawyer then

by robnashville on Jul 29, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh? He’s clearly protected under slander law from saying what he was told to some fan. Reporting what someone else said on a forum is probably the easiest defense there is.

by Michael Rome on Jul 29, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever the situation it will be resolved and everything will come out in the end.

I just hope Rampage is truly ok.

by mmastation on Jul 29, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully he will talk a significant hiatus and come back clear and focused. The UFC, Zuffa and the MMA community should rally behind him to ensure a speedy recovery.

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by Zak Woods on Jul 29, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing that stood out to me in the interview is that this is the second time it’s happened. (Kind of.)

Granted the first time wasn’t as bad but it said:

After reading on the Internet that fasting would keep the devil away, Jackson abstained from food for three days, ingesting only water and keeping details of his diet secretive.

I thought that is what played into this episode is that he hadn’t eaten for three of four days and was only drinking energy drinks.

I’m concerned that now it’s not just a random incident it’s a repeat with this last episode having far worse results. I’m not sure I would want to see how a third episode would end. So I hope if it means not fighting to keep that third episode from happening then so be it.

I know I might be reaching a little bit but I do think it’s a concern not to be overlooked.

by mattman73 on Jul 29, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I said it before and I’ll say it again. Regardless of whether Juanito was stealing from him or not, he was a lousy MMA coach. Quinton Jackson will probably join Extreme Couture at this rate.

by zeroword on Jul 30, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Juanito was a horrible coach on the show. He gave no help in the corners as well. He’d say encouraging words like “kick his ass” or “don’t let him take this fight”. Everytime I heard him talk to the fighters he was cornering I would just cringe. He was better off saying nothing at all.

by lovingmma25 on Jul 30, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rampage should goto Team Jackson….I don’t see him going to xtreme couture…with Griffin and Wandy being there.

http://tharealness.wordpress.com/

by Tha Realness on Jul 30, 2008 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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