"Affliction: Banned" Official Payouts and Gate
Via MMAJunkie.com:
Fedor Emelianenko: $300,000 (no win bonus)
Tim Sylvia: $800,000
Andrei Arlovski: $750,000 (includes $250,000 win bonus)
Ben Rothell: $250,000
Josh Barnett: $300,000 (no win bonus)
Pedro Rizzo: $70,000
Mark Hominick: $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
Savant Young: $7,000
Renato "Babalu" Sobral: $90,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus)
Mike Whitehead: $50,000
Matt Lindland: $300,000 (includes $75,000 win bonus)
Fabio Nascimento: $20,00O
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: $50,000 (no win bonus)
Edwin Dewees: $15,000
Mike Pyle: $20,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
JJ Ambrose: $5,000
Ray Lizama: $3,000
Justin Levens: $6000*
Vitor Belfort: $140,000 (includes $70,000 win bonus)
Terry Martin: $30,000
Paul Buentello: $80,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
Gary Goodridge: $25,000
Total payouts for the event totaled just over $3.3m. This does not include any special bonuses that may have been awarded.
Also from MMAJunkie.com:
This past Saturday's "Affliction: Banned" event drew a total attendance of 14,832 -- a small increase from the night's announced attendance of 13,988 -- for a live gate of $2,085,510.
...Of the 14,832 total tickets, 11,242 were sold, and 3,590 were complimentary and given away.
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Wow, what the hell has Sylvia done to deserve 800k! And I thought fedor had been demanding a lot more than 300k.
Some very well paid fighters here. Buentello is doing well to be getting 80k.
by idefinecagefighter on Jul 21, 2008 10:32 PM EDT 0 recs
I think that Fedor’s number is mostly undisclosed. As for Tim, I hope it was worth it. Hahaha..
by Blackout612 on Jul 21, 2008 10:36 PM EDT 0 recs
correct
I believe Fedor has already received a signing bonus and will receive a piece of the PPV payouts as well.
by steak_knife on
Jul 21, 2008 10:51 PM EDT
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according to MMA payout, Fedor’s total comp should be around $1.5 MIL
by steak_knife on
Jul 21, 2008 11:03 PM EDT
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Correct...
I was about to say that…and you beat me to it.
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by brentbrookhouse on
Jul 21, 2008 11:16 PM EDT
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Are we sure Fedor’s number is undisclosed just like the UFC numbers are undisclosed? How come when Dana it’s easy to believe Fedor’s numbers are undisclosed but when it comes to the UFC, they are underpaying their fighters?
by The Bronzeville Bully on
Jul 22, 2008 1:36 AM EDT
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welcome to the internet.
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by BJJDenver on
Jul 22, 2008 7:13 PM EDT
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Tim Sylvia $800,000? That’s absolutely way too high. The guy’s fights are terrible, not to mention that he’s probably the biggest tool in MMA.
by Josh H. on Jul 21, 2008 10:54 PM EDT 0 recs
travesty
Tim Sylvia earned more than the entire UFC Fight Night Payroll, including bonuses ($723,000).
by steak_knife on
Jul 21, 2008 11:10 PM EDT
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20K+
Per second…
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by brentbrookhouse on
Jul 21, 2008 11:17 PM EDT
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I was joking just after that fight about how much Fedor makes per hour.
by Blackout612 on
Jul 21, 2008 11:26 PM EDT
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yeah ummmm
that can’t possibly be for the length of his contract, he’s not worth a quarter that! i’m a little saddened that the big goof/ web-toed waterfowl imitator was happy that Fedor didn’t torment him with a “feeling out period”. Fedor’s only test in his legacy (whether or not he actually has to have a test) is Randy. Tim wasn’t ranked in the top 10 (as Inside the MMA reported while they were both on the show). If Fedor is an “alpha male” to use someone else’s verbage, the needs to fight Randy and/or Josh to make his absolute dominance complete. I absolutely hate this silly WAMMA belt crap. It’s like getting all the other competitors from Streetball saying they’re the best because they can’t play in the NBA.
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by dugmouth on
Jul 22, 2008 1:33 AM EDT
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Ticket sales were far stronger that I would have thought, especially when Ticketmaster had slashed the prices the day before. If there was only a thousand tickets left, why would they cut the prices? Maybe Affliction bought up a large chunk, like K-1 did. I don’t know this, I am just wondering.
I am thinking the final losses for the show will be 3-4 million. Certainly less than I had thought.
by Lynchman on Jul 21, 2008 11:38 PM EDT 0 recs
I was thinking the same...
I found a block of 8 tickets for $50 on Friday. This is the same seats that UFC shows would be sold out due to pre-sales. How could they be sold out the day after?
The total pay roll is: 3.3 + 1.2 = 4.5 mil. To be fair, part of the pay is also the Affliction endorsement tied in. However, is this the way to start a new promotion? They have the Pride heavyweights in Fedor and Barnett, and two of the better UFC heavyweights in Arlovski and ahem Sylvia.
From a business standpoint, how can they stomach paying a guy $800k that just got destroyed in 36 seconds? The 800k man has just got his stock shot to smithereens! Competition has got to be competitive. Even EliteXC’s fights, although inferior in talent, were competitive. Affliction has a problem: they have the best fighter in the world, yet their second best is so far below him that’s it’s not even funny.
Another thing is can they keep putting up heavyweight fights featuring Fedor every single time? They have no other divisions to speak of!
Finally, with MMA pay hitting big times, will we get to see Fedor fight 4 times a year when he doesn’t really need the money?
Who the hell wants to watch Tim Sylvia get destroyed like that again? The money’s in the rematch, yet there no one wants a rematch here. He’s boring and he’s one dimensional. Now Affliction has him on contract for 800k a fight, yet not many fans care to watch him fight.
Conundrum.
by cyph on
Jul 22, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
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$800K isn't $40 million
Let’s not go overboard here. Its not like Fedor or anyone else is getting De La Hoya money. Hell, none of them are getting Miguel Cotto money, and most of the top names aren’t getting Paul Williams money.
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT
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Yes, it would be a true shame were they to see a bigger chunk of the profits.
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 11:01 AM EDT
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Some companies are and some aren’t. I’m sure it’ll have no long term affects. Well, aside from allowing companies like Affliction to run shows such as the one Saturday and prevent major fights from ever occuring. Who cares? Noguiera/Mir, live on PPV!
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 12:55 PM EDT
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I am a believer that the high salaries paid to boxers is part of their downfall.
by lovingmma25 on
Jul 22, 2008 11:33 AM EDT
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Really? Because boxing was a richer sport than any other for most of the 20th century.
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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If they can keep this pay level up for a couple of more PPVs, expect big time defections from the UFC (or big time salary escalations from Dana and Co.)
by Day Man on Jul 22, 2008 12:09 AM EDT 0 recs
This is a good point. If Affliction shows they’re willing to lose money for awhile and pay fighters like this, I would expect to see some defections too.
by Mike Fagan on
Jul 22, 2008 12:50 AM EDT
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Hmm…it’s possible..but I don’t see many marquee fighter’s leaving just yet…alot of it depends on if the UFC can get on a major TV network…and/or who signed the liscense agreement.
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by Tha Realness on
Jul 22, 2008 9:06 AM EDT
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They’re still going to need about 300-400,000 buys to break even. Assuming 100,000 buys, which is higher than I expect, they’ll lose around 4 million on the show. Most of Fedor’s pay was in the signing bonus, I do not believe he is signed onto a portion of the PPV.
by Michael Rome on Jul 22, 2008 12:34 AM EDT 0 recs
Just to note, Affliction is almost surely on the 16 out of 40 PPV split that UFC was on a few years ago before they were able to renegotiate given their PPV strength.
by Michael Rome on Jul 22, 2008 12:36 AM EDT 0 recs
Holy Lord what a payroll..
If they sign Tito they are probably going to have to pay him in the region of a million bucks.
Arlovski at 500K? Damn thats a lot of coin. He was probably the most deserving of his payroll as he was probably the biggest draw of the card.
Even with Donald Trump, with that payroll I don’t see how they will last.
by MatteoFC on Jul 22, 2008 7:25 AM EDT 0 recs
If the show has a decent number of buys...
...it’ll obviously labor on for at least a little while. The fighters will be overpaid if the company can’t come up with a regular base of 250,000-300,000 in the near future, otherwise they’ll be just fine. A $3.3 million dollar payroll is low in the boxing world where 300,000 buys for a somewhat major PPV is the general norm.
by D.Capitated on Jul 22, 2008 7:56 AM EDT 0 recs
Lindland
After his lame performance I doubt he’ll ever pull down 300k for a fight again. Good thing he is going into politics.
by MusicCityBeatdown on Jul 22, 2008 8:02 AM EDT 0 recs
Let’s be honest here; Affliction cannot sustain a 250k-300k buy-rate on a monthly or bi-monthly basis (which they are likely to desire) without taking fans away from the UFC. MMA fans aren’t going to plunk down 80-100 dollars a month to watch two promotions and the UFC has sustainable talent, production and revenue. Affliction has a long hard road ahead to become profitable. Unfortunately, I just don’t see it happening. I think the formula for Affliction is wrong. They really should have been top heavy with a Fedor and maybe Arlovski and Tito, but some of the guys they’re paying 200k and upwards are simply not draws. Timmy making 800k is a loss before his fight is scheduled; people do not like Tim Sylvia. Same goes for Lindland—good fighter, bad draw. Until a promotion comes along that realizes the winning formula is a few top draws + stealing as much young, future superstar caliber talent as possible (from underneath the UFC), we will continue to see promising organizations go the way of the dodo. I hope Affliction succeeds. I enjoyed Saturday’s card and there’s room for a second major organization in the US (and XC just ain’t it), but I’m really concerned that the formula Affliction is operating under is just not sustainable for the long term. That sort of payroll has to be assisted by big buyrates. And if you have to put all of those fighters on each card to make it even marginally successful, you can only book a show every 4-5 months (November next, right?). As for the Trump card, Trump isn’t in the business of dumping his fortune into a sinkhole. If things don’t become profitable, he could quickly find the back door.
Lastly, the saddest thing about Tim’s performance is that Affliction will not release him or restructure his remaining contract. After that performance, he’s an albatross that is automatically tacking around a million dollars onto whatever card you slap him on without increasing the income potential. That’s painful…
by Blackout612 on Jul 22, 2008 11:01 AM EDT 0 recs
Do you have insider information about how Tim Sylvia’s contract is a guaranteed $800,000 or more a fight with no changes due to performance? Because I have yet to hear such a claim.
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT
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I’d love to show you a link, but I don’t have one off hand. However, when Timmy left town, he made the claim that he was offered three fights at 800k per, saying something along the lines of “I’m going to leave for a while to make a bunch of money and then come back home”. Anyone have a link? I’ll take a quick peek around..
by Blackout612 on
Jul 22, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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And another note; I don’t know for certain that his contract is guaranteed. It likely is not. My assertion is that Affliction will honor it. I would be willing to guarantee that they’ll honor it. As a new promotion that is trying to attract/keep big talent, they are likely to over-extend themselves in these/this first months/year to prove their loyalty.
by Blackout612 on
Jul 22, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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That’s an incredible assertion and I don’t for a second buy it. I’m guessing they’ll probably terminate the contract and offer him a new one. It would probably make Tim more money than what he’d get going back to the UFC, where he might get 80/80 if a miracle occurred.
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
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You think that it’s an incredible assertion that Afflction wouldn’t be willing to tear up his contract (when they were willing to pay him 800k to begin with and would risk his leaving should they release him from his obligation)? Incredible might not be a good choice of words, but I’d understand if you might disagree. There’s reason in my viewpoint (though they would be almost unreasonable/crazy to do it). We’ll see how it shakes out..
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Jul 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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If they do in fact sign Tito
you know he is going to ask for way more than what they are paying Tim Sylvia – Tito does have drawing power (like him or not)
I don’t see how Affliction will be able to put on any more shows if they are paying their fighters so much money and are not bringing in enough in ticket sales at least to cover payroll.
by lovingmma25 on Jul 22, 2008 11:10 AM EDT 0 recs
The problem with Tito...
is that he’s a casual fan draw. Hard cores don’t care for him because he’s not that good any more. Affliction’s strategy is to pull in hard cores.
Tito would be a bad investment for them… but then again, Affliction has shown the ability to throw money at any one with a name. They’ll pick up your dog with one leg if that dog used to kick ass.
by cyph on Jul 22, 2008 11:33 AM EDT 0 recs
LOL
that last line was very funny
I do respectfully disagree that Tito would be a bad investment. You have to believe that if, and if is used heavily here, they put Tito up against Babalu, that fight would draw major ppv buys and tickets sales. That is just one scenario that I think would support Tito not being a bad investment. Do you concur?
by lovingmma25 on
Jul 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
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I don't think a Oritz/Sobral fight will sell
From my point of view, Tito’s time has passed him by. Sobral is a guy who got KOed in one minute flat by Liddell, then followed that up by getting KOed by Jason Lambert of all people! Lambert, if you recall, is a guy who’s way too fat and is fighting out of his natural weight class because he can’t cut the weight.
Babalu isn’t that high up on my list of light heavyweights, and Tito isn’t either. But that’s just my personal opinion. Are there any hard cores who still enjoy watching Tito fight? The only fight I’d be interested in is a Shogun/Tito fight and a rematch with Forrest Griffin. Unfortunately, that’s not possible any more. I think Tito would be the underdog in both.
by cyph on
Jul 22, 2008 12:06 PM EDT
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Tito/Shamrock would sell
Frank Shamrock that is..
Frank Shamrock has shown that he has a pretty big draw.
Tito Ortiz himself is a big draw and I think the both of them would make for a big draw to casual fans and hardcore mma fans alike.
I don’t know what Franks contract is like through Strikeforce/EXC so you never know.
by MatteoFC on Jul 22, 2008 12:27 PM EDT 0 recs
defections from ufc???
uh…I think you’d need to have more than two weight classes to see anything like that happening and my personal belief is that Affliction is only working towards the Couture-Fedor “superfight” expecting a huge payday and will then disappear. The Donald gets bored real quick and once the idea of having to organize a roster of fighters, pay them, get TV deals, something that they will NEVER survive without, sets in….he’ll be out faster than Terry Martin.
by rednoize on Jul 22, 2008 12:28 PM EDT 0 recs
They can build weight classes after guys get there. Fact is, professional fighters fight for money, and if they will offer them more money, they will leave or never come to the UFC in the first place.
by D.Capitated on
Jul 22, 2008 1:06 PM EDT
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He got paid 1.5 just to show…his win was the 300k…plus ppv gate, etc.
by l2ufi0 on Jul 22, 2008 1:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Tito is inevitably looking for that sort of payday to dot the i and cross the two t’s.
by Blackout612 on
Jul 22, 2008 2:15 PM EDT
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Affiction dead after only one show!?!
Let’s see. 3.3 million in fighter payout. Renting the arena, promotion, advertisment, paying MegaDeath and commentators, Micheal Buffer saying his trademark, ‘Let’s get ready to rumble,’ twice in one night, ect. I can’t see how they made any money. On top of that they have very little room to grow. Outside of Randy fighting Fedor (namesake draws big ppv buys) Or maybe Andrei fighting Fedor I can’t see much of a draw to tune people into their future events. Time will tell but they better plan to lose 20 million before they make a dime, or they’re dead already. If the UFC can take the Fedor match-up against Arlovski or Couture away, Afflicition can go ahead and pack their bags.
by Tommy7 on Jul 22, 2008 5:07 PM EDT 0 recs
With the price of their t-shirts the company should be fine. Trust me – the price will go from $70 to $90 for one of their t-shirts now.
by lovingmma25 on
Jul 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT
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A $70-90 T-Shirt?
Watch their shirt business go bye-bye as well.
by cyph on Jul 22, 2008 7:46 PM EDT 0 recs









