Sure seems like all the Fedor haters are staying miles away from this post…I don’t blame em.

I read personal guarantees for months on this site regarding this fight from clowns hatin on Fedor and his fans. My assumption was these fans were recent fans who were only fans because of watching the reality show and also the same fans who believe anything Dana White says. Popetastic – if you were not one of these fans, then I’m not sure why you commented (as my post was not referring to you). Furthermore, what makes somebody an amateur fan is someone who’s knowledge of the sport is very basic. Anyone who was guaranteeing a Sylvia victory – well, I include you in that category…sorry.

But I should have been more specific – sorry I was still in pure ecstacy after this fight when I made this post – seeing Fedor dismantle The Swampthing so quickly. I don’t think 100% – that Fedor would finish Couture – but I do think Couture wouldn’t stand a chance at winning against Fedor (whether that be KO, TKO, or submission). Fedor would and will take it (if we are ever so lucky to see this match up).

Like I said – Fedor proved last night he is the alpha male in the sport. Couture isn’t even close. The guy couldn’t even pull off back-to-back victories against a LHW in Chuck Liddell.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT FEDOR WOULD DO TO CHUCK LIDDELL????

Give me a break….

Popetastic – if you have been watching MMA since UFC 3 and never guaranteed a Sylvia victory – then my post was obviously not referring to you, so maybe our conversation needs to be wrapped up with my final comments.

My passion for Fedor runs deep…back to 2002 in his first Pride bout vs Semmy Schilt. Posting or commenting on Bloody Elbow hardly classifies or dignifies my allegiance to the last emporer. I just sat back and laughed at the people who dissed him for the last year or so…once Dana basically punked him out and said he was overrated. The UFC faithful jumped on his bandwagon and continually rode him for not fighting quality competition (which I don’t disagree with – but doesn’t, in the least, diminish his skill or dominance).

I don’t need to make anything public on some useless forum…with useless mma-minds who automatically dismiss Fedor because he wouldn’t accept Dana’s ridiculous exclusive contract demands. I’m not looking for recognition of the fact that Fedor won and I support him – thats not the point of my post (I wasn’t in the ring – so I don’t deserve any recognition).

After reading the mindless posts from countless “UFC/Dana White” d*ck-riders and bashing Fedor – I just wanted to make a post and see where all these AMATEUR fans were at this morning. From the looks of it – they aren’t even coming near this website or my post specifically…as I said – I don’t blame em. Since you accurately predicted the winner – you obviously were not one of the people I was referring to.

I think Dana realizes he effed up on Fedor this morning…Fedor clowned his former champ in impressive fashion and didn’t even break a friggin sweat. And Fedor unanimously defeated UFC’s current HW champ – twice…after last night, Dana must really realize how illigitimate his champ is at the moment.

In terms of alpha males – you are completely clueless. First of all – your classification of WHO is the alpha male in this sport is based on what?

I could find you countless rankings of HWs in MMA – and 90-99% or even 100% will list Fedor at #1. In my mind that should mean that in the division where you have the biggest, strongest opponents – the #1 ranked man is the alpha male. Sure he has been ranked there for a while (even without quality competition) – but after last night – and seeing how quickly Tim Sylvia was disposed of and after Fedors lengthy layoff from top quality opponents – his position at #1, was cemented just appropriately.

Even in the P4P rankings Fedor is usually #1 or within the top 3 (with Anderson and GSP up there as well). To have a heavyweight in the top P4P rankings is not only impressive -but speaks volumes on the guy.

So – as I was saying – your classification of who is the alpha male of the sport – is based on what?

Does he have to beat Couture? Remember – Couture might have got a good punch on Sylvia to start the fight – but he took him to a decision. And plus – Couture lost 2 straight to a LHW in The Iceman…so he is far from the alpha male.

Does he have to beat Nogeuira – AGAIN?? Come on now….

And I acknowledged the fact that Fedor has not fought top quality opponents recently – “not fighting quality competition (which I don’t disagree with)”. I totally agree and actually thought this might play a bigger role in last nights fight. The fact that it didn’t even play one iota of a factor – shows me and should show any doubters that this man is for real.

In terms of alpha male and you bringing up Anderson – sure he is P4P one of the best. I don’t dispute that. He has disposed of top quality 185s over and over – the best 185s in the world and recently disposed of Irvin (but Irvin isn’t an established top 205). And Silva needs to go up against some top LHWs before your claim of “Silva is about to have a run in the UFC’s LHW class” can be proven (Chuck, Forrest, Rampage if he gets his sh*t together, Wanderlei, Lyoto, Thiago, etc). I wouldn’t classify Irvin as a top 205 – but I don’t take away from what Anderson accomplished last night.

Furthermore – P4P does not mean you are the alpha male. GSP is in the top 3 for p4p (with Fedor and Anderson according to most lists I’ve seen) – but that doesn’t mean GSP should be considered as the alpha male of the sport. I never said Fedor was the P4P champ – I said he gets considered in every single p4p list there is – usually in the top 3. For a heavyweight – that is a huge accolade since he tips the scales at over 30-40-50 lbs more than Anderson.

I agree though – just to put the doubters to sleep – Fedor needs to go at Couture (and I’m sure Fedor would be victorious). I’m pretty sure Arlovski wouldn’t stand a chance (if he even had trouble w/Tim)...and Barnett – well that could be interesting.

The heavyweight division is not the most competitive – for sure…but that isn’t Fedor’s fault. Since you nor I are in the professional sport of MMA – neither of us are really qualified to give the distinction of who is the alpha male (I was merely stating my opinion). Reading some quotes from those who are qualified (and Dana White is not since he has never fought a sanctioned MMA bout) – we can form some reasonable decision.

Tim Sylvia – post fight interview:
“I know that I’m one of the best in the world…I was amazed at how good Fedor is. He hurt me right away and submitted me…The guy’s a stud. I don’t even think he’s human. That guy hits hard…I’ve never been hit that hard before. This guy is unreal…He’s incredible, and I don’t know if anybody’s going to beat him for a while.”

Randy Couture-
“Fedor is the best pfp fighter in the world.”

Rampage-
“Fedor is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world aside from bj Penn, those 2 are the best fighters in the world.”

Renato Sobral
“Look, I’ve fought many people from around the world, so I’ve seen many strong fighters. But like him, never.”

Wanderlei Silva
“NOBODY wants to fight Fedor.”

Josh Barnett-
“Our great champion, he is the BEST in the world.”

Bas Rutten-
“Fedor has no weakness! I have seen so many fights, and even the best fighters in the world have a flaw in their game but I have yet to find one in Fedor Emelianenko.”

Diego Sanchez-
“Probably the best ever lived….he’s a living legend right now and I don’t think there’s a man on this planet who can beat him; the man is unreal. Pound for pound the best in the world.”

BJ Penn-
“Fedor is my favorite.”

Kevin Randleman-
“The best fighter to climb into ANY areana is Emelianenko fedor. He is in his own
league and you can’t compare nobody.”

Brandon Vera-
“Fedor is just too dominant, too good at punching people in the face. The way he punches people man he’s trying to kill people, with both hands. He’s in a whole different class by himself.”

So – some of these MMA-fighters ackowledge that Fedor is the p4p best in the world. I think I put more faith in their opinions than a fellow poster on some random blog. If you could find me a collection of quotes from an assortment of fighters who declare similar attributes about Anderson in their quotes and distinguish him as ABOVE Fedor – then I might begin to agree with your opinion that Anderson Silva is the alpha male of MMA (and as mentioned Dana White’s highly objective opinion doesn’t count). Since I think you’d have trouble doing so – I believe at this point, we’d just have to agree to disagree.

Tim Sylvia was a good indicator of what Fedor can do even with his recent record of 1-3. Sylvia is a strong man with good takedown defense and he damaged big Nog quite a lot before being submitted. Fedor is so well rounded. He can strike, he has balance, he has ground game. He also has a good chin and recovers quickly. He does have one flaw…he cuts easily but this has only caused real problems once…and he has avenged that loss. He went for a lot of pay days in the recent past but that never changed the above mentioned facts about the man. He is so well rounded that he can beat anyone that is put in front of him. I also know that he will be beaten one day if he stays in the game long enough but his record is perfect (and please don’t bring up the cut loss okay). Again, he showed his power and so did Randy against Sylvia. Fedor was able to finish and he landed a lot more punches before the submission. I would say that Fedor is the alpha male but I think that Anderson Silva is an alpha male in his own right. GSP too…and Randy Couture has shown himself to be at the top of the food chain. Bottom line…Fedor is great and he is a $$$$ maker for whatever organization gets him to fight for them. We will see Fedor in Dream before 2009…it may be the eve of 2009 but we will see him very soon in Dream. World Victory Road may get him for a bout too. The UFC will not. Dana White burned that bridge and he is kicking himself after last night. I have a feeling that Dana and Tim had an agreement because Dana thought that perhaps Tim could beat Fedor. This is hearsay but we may see Tim back in the UFC very soon…or not. Now I am just speculating. The domination and skills of Fedor, on the other hand, is not speculation. Cheers

Popetastic – I agree with your recent comments..both are amazing…and Silva has been testing himself against the best in his division recently and Fedor has taken a lengthy layoff from top quality opponents.

Johann – I would love to see that fight (Fedor/Anderson)...although I’m pretty sure that outside of our dreams, this fight would never become a reality.

I just thought of something else though from your comment….if Silva was the alpha dog of the sport – why wouldn’t Couture have dropped down to 205 (as he is a small HW anyways) – and meet Silva there. He went through the motions of breaking his contract with the UFC, with his friend Dana, and leaving the company while holding the HW belt (in the most legitimate and prestigious company in MMA) as he was so deteremined to get the fight with Fedor (albeit there were probably other factors that played a role – but Fedor was a key reason). He didn’t want Nogeuira, he didn’t want Arlovski, he didn’t want Barnett. – he didn’t want to test himself against Anderson…he wanted The Last Emporer.

That should say something in itself.

prideUFCfan – I agree with everything you said.

I don’t want anyone to get it twisted – I hate Tim Sylvia…I hate the type of fighter he is. But I can’t disagree with anyone who says he is not a top ranked HW in the world…he is, there’s no disputing that. His recent record (excluding Fedor) has been losses to 2 of the other top HWs in the world (Couture and Nogeuira)...its not like he’s losing to bums (and he went the distance with Couture and banged up Nogueira pretty good). Tim Sylvia was a great test for Fedor – there’s only a handful of other MMA fighters in the world at heavyweight who would have been a bigger test. After the layoff from top quality opponents – Saturday nights achievement in such short and easy fashion gives a lot of credit to those (myself included) who have been riding his bandwagon for 1,2,3,4,5 and in my case 6 years.

As I said – war Fedor.

Day Man-

If you would have read my post correctly – you would have read that I said Fedor was one of the reasons and there were of course other reasons…so we are both partly right – so thanks for affirming that for me. Fighting Fedor for the challenge – because he was considered the top guy in the HW division (regardless of his layoff from top quality competition), was a main reason as well. The money the UFC was willing to fork out for him – only proves this assertion. And yes – Randy took offense with that. But make no mistake about it – the challenge to fight Fedor was high on the list.

Yes – I see your point about Anderson, maybe Couture’s departure was prior to Anderson’s recent accomplishments.

Regardless – I still believe (and of course this is a matter of opinion) that Fedor is the alpha male in the sport – and anyone would be hard-pressed to dispute that after Saturday. But righfully so – an argument could be made for Anderson as well.

As we’ve previously concluded – Fedor is amazing and so is Anderson.

Kierkegaard -

There have been numerous posts…I have read them countless times….if you look hard enough you’ll find em. I don’t have the time nor the desire to do it for you.

Everything else you say – I am in agreement with you. Many have claimed that Sylvia was going to show up all of us “Fedor nuthuggers”....and as I’ve said already – those same people won’t touch this post with a 10 foot stick.

In closing and this will be my last comment on this thread – hopefully Fedor/Couture does happen…and Fedor/Barnett…it will only cement The Last Emporers legacy even further.

Good little debates – take care all.