Lyoto Machida vs. Thiago Silva at UFC 89

Via UFC.com:
Unbeaten light heavyweight sensation Lyoto ‘The Dragon’ Machida (13-0) will look to keep the momentum going from his May victory over Tito Ortiz when he returns to the Octagon to face fellow unbeaten (and fellow Brazilian) Thiago Silva (13-0) in what should be an explosive clash on October 18th’s UFC 89 card at The National Indoor Arena in Birmingham, England.
It's been rumored for awhile and now it's official. I think this is the best possible matchmaking for Machida if they aren't giving him a title shot. They put him in with a guy who has an impressive streak, but probably won't give him too much trouble.
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The real number one contender fight
Subject says it all.
Whoever wins should get a title shot if it’s based on anything but a popularity contest.
But Liddell and Dana White are homeboys so he will get a title shot if he beats Rashad.
by DirtyML on Jul 16, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not because they’re buddies, it’s because it’s the match the vast majority of UFC fans want to see. He is in the television and PPV business.
by Michael Rome on Jul 16, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still a long road for Silva
I’m a big fan of Silva but I’m not sure why he would want to take this fight. Not only do you lose, but you lose in boring fashion. It’s like you lose twice in the same night. If Silva does pull off a victory, I don’t think it puts him in top contender status. If he won, I could see him fighting Evans (considering Evans loses to Liddell) and then still have to fight a #1 contender like Wandy or maybe even Rampage or Forrest depending where they sit in the rankings the next time they fight.
by steveoc24 on Jul 16, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it's kinda like that
We can all guess on how to call this; but I am puzzled. Thiago is an exciting fighter and he finishes fights. Lyoto not so much on the other hand. I would hate to see Thiago lose two times in one night/on the same fight as stated above by steveoc24.
by lovingmma25 on Jul 16, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Belts need to be on the line every 3 months.
Having to wait almost a year for a title fight due to bs like a TUF season is ridiculous. Champions need to take the Anderson Silva approach and demand to fight every 3 months. In divisions as stacked as lw, ww, and lhw there is plenty of talent waiting in the wings for their shots. Dana needs to recognize this, especially in the lhw division, where the top tier fighters aren’t that far from the champ in terms of skill. The lhw belt could be constantly changing hands for a while to come with the amount of talent in that pool.
by Fatal Error on Jul 16, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
This new season of TUF with Mir and Nog as coaches is going to be the straw that broke the camels back with me. The last couple seasons I’ve slowly lost interest and faded away from TUF. But Mir or Nog is appealing to me and the fact that this is a title fight thats going to put on hold for awhile because of TUF just makes me lose all interest. The fight itself is nothing I’m really looking forward too.
by steveoc24 on Jul 16, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind it so much. There aren’t many title contenders in the UFC HW division right now.
by Mike Fagan on Jul 16, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? This one actually makes sense. There aren’t any serious contenders at heavyweight and this gives them a chance to build some up.
by Richard Wade on Jul 16, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love this fight… praying that it’s for Forrest’s fight title defence.
by Nick Thomas on Jul 16, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think this is actually a challenge to Machida – not in that he’s an underdog, but that’s up against someone who has serious power and a relentless style. I think of Thiago as a “Wanderlei Lite” sort of fighter, and Thiago will HAVE to engage or risk running full out, a la Starnes vs. Quarry. I think this is the UFC telling Machida that the point fighting has gotten him this far, but it’s time to put up the dukes. If he does, he’ll probably win; his skills are incredible, he’s very strong, very quick and very accurate. If he doesn’t, he won’t be able to lay back and launch long distance attacks like he did against Ortiz; Silva’s aggression and striking make that impossible, so he won’t be able to pick his spots and might even get caught while backing up. I like this matchup, and if Silva does pull of the upset, he’s made a HUGE jump in the division. If he loses, well, he lost to a guy who no one has figured out yet, and doesn’t really fall too far in the pecking order.
by AJB on Jul 16, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
It takes serious pressure to get Machida to engage. Silva will at least do some of this.
by Luke Thomas on Jul 16, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Intriguing matchup. At least it’s a good stylistic contest. I think Thiago is very unproven and overrated by many, but he’s got a chance here to prove otherwise.
Machida has a chance to show how exciting he can be.
by Hardcharger on Jul 16, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And
There’s nothing quite like Brazilian rivalries. I’d love to see some new ones get created.
by Luke Thomas on Jul 16, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will go on the record by predicting Thiago Silva wins by viscious Ground n Pound
by lovingmma25 on Jul 16, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow!
now that is a ballsy prediction.
by monkeyfightclub! on Jul 16, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with lovingmma25, I am not sure it is going to be by GnP but Thiago will win
by The Legend on Jul 16, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GREAT CARD
Bisping/Leben, Alves/Sanchez, & now 2 unbeatens going at it. I’ve heard the fight will be free on Spike, but with the addition of Machida/Silva, UFC 89 certainly looks PPV buy-worthy.
by steak_knife on Jul 16, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Machida is going to walk through him. Thiago’s standup is barely good, his ground game is what’s excellent, and I don’t see him getting Machida down.
by Michael Rome on Jul 16, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I think Thiago’s best chance of winning this is to somehow get Machida in the clinch and take it to the ground.
by idefinecagefighter on Jul 16, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Machida by 2nd round TKO
Thiago’s only advantage is punching power but that will be negated by the speed and style of Machida. Machida’s straight left will land with glaring efficiency which will lead to sending Thiago down in a heap and being finished off by Machida from the top.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
by FlyByKnight on Jul 16, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense...
... considering the current LHW situation. I would love to see Machida in a title fight, cause I do like watching him fight. but ultimately he won’t really sell PPVs well, and if he were to be LHW champ, I can see some problems later on for PPVs. It comes down in part to what makes the most business sense. Machida won’t be in any danger in a fight with Thiago.
by pud333 on Jul 16, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should be interesting to see if Thiago considers trying to pull guard and then either go for submissions or a sweep. He is a BJJ black belt, and Machida did almost get submitted by Tito Ortiz.
by Michael Rome on Jul 16, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t be a bad idea, but it’s also very out of character for Thiago. Some guys have a mental makeup that just doesn’t really allow for that.
by AJB on Jul 16, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody thought Tito still had decent submissions off his back. A lot of high level BJJ guys would have been surprised by that too. Machida also had the flu that night which impacted his performance.
by Flying Gogoplata on Jul 16, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except not really
Tito tried a triangle and Machida defended well. That’s not the same as almost getting submitted.
by FRANKIE on Jul 17, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would Thiago pull guard against a black belt?
Machida is a black belt himself. Trained by the Nogueira’s.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
by FlyByKnight on Jul 16, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because he’d then at least have a chance. He’ll be beyond outclassed on his feet, on the ground it would be much closer to even.
by Michael Rome on Jul 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thiago's only chance on the ground ..
.. is if he lands in mount or on top. Off his back, he’ll be in trouble. Thiago has to land the big punch or a vicious combo.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
by FlyByKnight on Jul 16, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let’s not forget that Machida is an “excellent defensive grappler” in addition to his now-proven takedown defence.
Anyhow it’s about time the UFC put out a fairly good English card.
by Flying Gogoplata on Jul 16, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wish this fight was Machida v. Wanderlei but this fisn’t horrible. I’m just hoping that if Machida outclasses Thiago that we don’t hear the circular argument that Thiago wasn’t very good in the first place because he lost to Machida and therefore Machida still hasn’t proven himself.
by Day Man on Jul 16, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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