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Fights of the Mid-Year 2008 (6-10)

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The opinions expressed in this article are the author's only, and do not necessarily reflect the stance of Bloody Elbow or its staff.

With half of the year passed, let's take a look at the top fights of 2008 so far.

Honorable mentions:

B.J. Penn vs. Sherk Sherk @ UFC 84
Josh Thomson vs. Gilbert Melendez @ Strikeforce: Melendez vs. Thomson

I felt both of these fights were too one-sided and just narrowly missed the top 10.

10. Frank Mir vs. Brock Lesnar @ UFC 81

While on the list more for its mainstream appeal and the atmosphere of the live crowd, this fight packed a wide range of emotions into a short 90 seconds of action.  The contest opened as some had predicted with Lesnar overwhelming Mir early, knocking him down with a right hand and following with a Donkey Kong ambush on the ground.  Referee Steve Mazzagatti controversially halted the contest to deduct a point from Lesnar for strikes to the back of the head.  After the re-start, the fight hit the ground again, but this time Lesnar made a rookie mistake.  Leaving his leg exposted, Mir grabbed a hold of it and Lesnar had no choice but to tap.

9. Caol Uno vs. Mitsuhiro Ishida @ Dream 3

For the first five minutes, Uno had prevented Ishida from taking him down, busted his nose, and briefly rocked him with a right hook.  Things looked grim for the "Endless Fighter," but the second half of the round looked a lot more like what people had expected - Ishida taking Uno down and controlling him on the ground.  The second round started as cautiously as the first, until Ishida took Uno's back.  Greed took the best of him; while trying to put his hooks in, Uno reversed the position which allowed him to slap on a fight ending rear-naked choke.  The win put Uno, a fighter with popularity comparable to fellow Japanese stars "Kid" Yamamoto, Takanori Gomi, and Kazushi Sakuraba, back in the spotlight.

8. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Tim Sylvia @ UFC 81

If UFC fans didn't know what "Minotauro" was about before this fight, they knew quickly after.  In a vintage performance, Nogueira took two rounds of punishment from Sylvia, including being knocked down in the opening period.  However, with 3 more rounds to finish the fight, the Brazilian was able to pull guard in the third round, putting Sylvia in territory he desparately did not want to be in.  After sweeping the "Maine-iac" he was able to secure a guillotine choke to become the first man to have held both the UFC and Pride Heavyweight Titles.

7. Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith @ EXC on CBS

With the sport in the country's spotlight, MMA needed a fight to capture the public's imagination.  It came so close.  The fight looked like a laugher after one round of action.  Lawler dominated Smith, holding him away with a jab, and then visibly hurting Smith with a liver kick before unloading a flurry of strikes as the period came to a close.  Smith needed the help of the fence to get back to his corner.  The second round showed the gameness of the challenger who cleared his head and unloaded punishment of his own.  With the fight shaping up to be EXC's version of Griffin/Bonnar, an accidental thumb in the eye caused it to be stopped by the cageside doctor in round 3.

6. Frank Shamrock vs. Cung Le @ Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Le

An aging MMA legend.  A decorated San Shou kickboxing convert.  Two local boys with a hot, split crowd.  All the recipes for an exciting fight, and it did not disappoint.  Shamrock and Le fought a closely contested fight for 3 rounds with Le utilizing his San Shou background while Shamrock attempted to counterstrike and throw barrages on the inside.  Frank showed his usual showmanship, playing to Le and the crowd even getting Cung to come out of his shell for brief moments.  After round 3, Shamrock withdrew from the fight after suffering a broken arm as a result of Le's high kicks.

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I disagree with all six but respect that people have differing opinions.

by N. Rodriguez on Jul 10, 2008 6:11 AM EDT reply actions  

There’s only 5 (or 7 with the honorable mentions), but you realize 1-5 are coming later, right? I’m interested to see what would be in your bottom half of the top 10 fights so far.

by Mike Fagan on Jul 10, 2008 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll post mines:

10: MacDonald vs Doerkson
9: Herring vs Kongo
8: Diaz vs Pellegrino
7: Koscheck vs Hazlett
6: Tavares vs Wiman
5: Lawler vs Smith
4: Aoki vs JZ II
3: Rampage vs Forrest
2: Ishida vs Bu Kyung
1: Le vs Shamrock

by N. Rodriguez on Jul 10, 2008 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Aoki/JZ 2? Really? I didn’t find that fight very entertaining at all.

by Tim Burke on Jul 10, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lawler-Smith...Really?

The problem is for me that if most of these non-ufc fights were held in the ufc, noone would be mentioning them. I think the under-dog mentality we have means that most of these lists are going to be fleshed out with the smaller organizations instead of actually compairing the fights themselves.

by ProCannonFodder on Jul 10, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

3 of my top 5 are Zuffa promoted fights and the other two are from Dream.

I think it’s important to factor in the significance of the fight when gauging fight of the year as well. Lawler/Smith was an excellent fight on the most historical show of the year. That means something.

by Mike Fagan on Jul 10, 2008 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Lawler-Smith was very good and, if not for the Doc stoppage, could have been great.

by mythbuster on Jul 10, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

My List

1. Forrest Griffin v. Quinton Jackson – UFC 86
2. Miguel Torres v. Yoshiro Maeda – WEC 34
3. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira v. Tim Sylvia – UFC 81
4. Nate Diaz v. Kurt Pellegrino – UFC Fight Night 13
5. Matt Wiman v. Thiago Tavares – UFC 85
6. Thales Leites v. Nathan Marquardt – UFC 85
7. Robbie Lawler v. Scott Smith – EliteXC on CBS 1
8. Cung Le v. Frank Shamrock – Strikeforce – Shamrock v. Le
9. Josh Koscheck v. Dustin Hazelett – UFC 82
10. Yves Edwards v. Edson Berto – EliteXC – Street Certified

I think most are self-explanatory, but I imagine some folks would question putting Le v. Shamrock so low, particularly behind Leites v. Marquardt. Sure, Leites v. Marquardt had some iffy officiating, but that was a hard fought match by both guys. Leites in particular took a ton of punishment and yet worked hard until the final bell.

That style of match appealed to me more than Le v. Shamrock, which annoyed me greatly. I believe Shamrock attempted one or two takedowns the entire match and basically announced to the world that he would allow Le to pick him apart. It was as though Shamrock determined in advance that there would be more money to be made in the rematch so, what the hey, he’ll get busted up the first time around and enjoy a nice(er) pay day the next time out.

As for Lawler v. Smith, that had some great moments and got better as it went on (after starting awfully slow), but the unfortunate stoppage knocks it down a bit to me. If someone thinks the match was much better, I have no problem with it.

Yves Edwards v. Edson Berto was a good fight while it lasted, but more importantly it had what is my second favorite knockout. That’s largely why Diaz v. Pellegrino is so high, because the finish was just about the greatest thing ever. The fact that Diaz could come back from such a beating helped as well.

I can’t imagine anyone taking issue with anything else, but if so, I’d be glad to further discuss the list thus far.

by Brett Jones on Jul 10, 2008 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

10. Baroni/Hose (ICON, Guilty pleasure)
9. Leites/Marquardt (UFC)
8. Kos/Hazelett (UFC)
7. Tokoro/ Uyenoyama (Dream)
6. Pulver/Faber (WEC)

by Tim Burke on Jul 10, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Tokoro v. Uyenoyama is a good one. I actually “saw” that fight, except I paid no attention to it, then everyone and their brother was going on about how great it was.

I think I need to rewatch Alvarez v. Hansen. I think I fell asleep during it.

by Brett Jones on Jul 10, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alvarez/Hansen is in my top 5 for sure. Great fight.

by Tim Burke on Jul 10, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Schultz vs. Deividas Taurosevicius isn’t getting enough love. It was a five round war between two extremely skilled lightweights from top camps (Quest vs. Renzo) that incorporated all aspects of modern MMA. Unfortunately it was in the IFL which means absolutely no one saw it .

If you consider yourself an MMA fan you owe it to yourself to find this fight and watch it. It’s one of the truly great fights of the year and certainly belongs on any top 10 list.

by George Lucas on Jul 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I got DirecTV, and thus access to IFL, about a month after that show. Great timing.

by Brett Jones on Jul 10, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of those five, I think only Nog/Sylvia would make my top 10.

by Richard Wade on Jul 10, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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