Kimbo Slice vs. Brett Rogers in October
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So much for the notion that Rogers wouldn't get a shot at Kimbo. Michael David Smith of AOL Fanhouse has the news:
If that was Rogers' attempt to hype himself up as the next opponent for Kimbo, it worked. Slice appeared on Dan Le Batard's radio show today and said he'll fight Rogers next, "probably in October."
"They called me out, and now they got the fight," Slice said of Rogers and his camp.
One rumor suggested that Kimbo would take on current IFL Heavyweight champion Roy Nelson his next fight. By comparison, Kimbo v. Rogers is absolutely the better booking as I'm concerned. If Kimbo loses to Roy Nelson, sure, it was his toughest test in his young career and losing to a champion is no indictment on one's abilities. However, Nelson then goes back to IFL, and where is Kimbo left? In EliteXC, battling low level competition for his next handful of fights as Shaw and co. try to rebuild the aura of Kimbo.
With Rogers as Kimbo's opponent, it's a win-win-win for Kimbo, Rogers, and most importantly, EliteXC. Regardless of who wins, Kimbo or Rogers would come out as a significantly bigger star than they entered the match as, and would be the face of the organization going forward. Rogers could even become the "new Kimbo," while Kimbo would have beaten not only his toughest opponent to date, but an undefeated fighter with more than twice as many matches as Kimbo to his credit. From EliteXC's perspective, this will be a grudge match, which has historically been the biggest drawing matches in MMA. While this won't appeal to audiences in the same way as Ortiz v. Shamrock, adding this level on intriguing to Kimbo's already massive, albeit subdued, aura could make this event even more successful for EliteXC than last Saturday's.
All that having been said, I think it's clear that Kimbo will come in as the underdog for the first time in his career. At the very least, Rogers has as much power in his hands as Kimbo. Unlike Kimbo, Rogers was able to stop James Thompson inside of one round. While Rogers isn't known for his ground game, he was able to prevent James Thompson from taking their fight to the ground, something Kimbo struggled with mightily. Questions arise when comparing the chins of each fighter. We have yet to really see Roger's chin tested, while it's understood that Kimbo has a very durable chin. It's a safe bet that Rogers will test it nonetheless in October.
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Me smells a rat
Starting to wonder if the whole post fight eruption wasn’t set up from the start by Shaw.
I smell Vince McMahon.
Seriously doubt it
Rogers is legitimately pissed and with plenty of reason. He just worked his way into the picture. I doubt there’s any conspiracy. Plus the bad blood makes this an interesting and marketable scrap.
I don't think...
...making a little something happen at a press conference for the sake of drumming up business is that bad of a thing. As long as the action in the cage is legit I could care less if they use a bit of razzle dazzle at a press conference to build up the fight.
After all.. Tito/Ken…Ken/Kimo…Tito/Chuck…etc. If you’re telling me a lot of what goes on in those kind of situations is anything other than showbiz “build-up” then you’re crazy.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 6, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
There was a degree of that...
...but at the same time they certainly went a bit over the top at times for the sake of “making it look good”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Jun 6, 2008 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You may be right
I just find it convenient that a feud suddenly bursts up, brought into a press conference (hello media!) and lo and behold, it’s announced as the next fight.
Just strikes me a bit of, ‘hey go make a stink so there’ll be momentum when it’s announced’.
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Let’s see, drama at a presser 5 months before a fight. Sounds like something from the boxing world. What is Shaw’s background again? Seriously, I agree that to some extent, this rift was manufactured.
As for the fight, I can’t stand Rogers and I’m certainly not sold on Kimbo. I would love to see a big hook KO Rogers, but I have a feeling, this will be a quick win for him (Rogers).
Neither one of these guys wants Big Country anytime soon.
"They said you was hung!!"
"And they was RIGHT!"
I’m more likely to believe that Rogers made a move to promote himself into the light rather than Shaw having coreographed it.
I don’t personally care either way, what fighters think of each other and the “drama” behind fights is pointless to me.
I’m torn on this fight. I’ve enjoyed Rogers’ last couple of fights. I’m not a fan of Kimbo at all. But I’m not really sure what the outcome of this fight is going to mean for either fighter, really. Regardless of who wins, I’m not sold that either one of them is anything to be particularly excited about. So far all I’ve seen of either one of these guys is the ability to throw huge punches with mixed results, but not really an ability to do much of anything else. It could be that Rogers possesses some ground skills that we just haven’t seen yet, but we really haven’t seen that at all. We have seen that Kimbo doesn’t really have much of any offense on the ground and has very little beyond pure strength for defense on the ground. We haven’t seen what kind of cardio Rogers might have, but we now know that Kimbo’s good for about 3 minutes and that’s it.
If Rogers knocks Kimbo out in round 1, does that mean Rogers is really “all that”? Nope.
If Kimbo knocks Rogers out in round 1, does that mean Kimbo is really “all that”? Nope.
I’d still prefer to see Kimbo have to rematch Thompson, and going to this fight instead seems to me to just be an attempt to push the “controversy” of the stoppage under the rug a bit. Maybe that’s just me, though.
I thought for sure...
They would have Kimbo get his mojo rolling again with a lesser fighter, then rematch JT and THEN either Rogers or Nelson.
Shows you how smart I am, lol.
"They said you was hung!!"
"And they was RIGHT!"
Rogers made this fight
While many people can speculate as to whether Shaw planned this, it’s a good move by Rogers to call Kimbo out in the press conference. Not only does it make the fight more intriguing, but it should create much needed hype around Kimbo’s second fight on CBS to get viewers to tune in.
The only problem here is, Rogers is going to be a tough fight for him, very tough. Rogers still has some wrestling experience while Kimbo has zero. He had a horrible ground game, while Rogers could essentially move his weight around, topple Kimbo, and pound him out with his heavy hands. A standup war will definitely be interesting, but Rogers somehow seems to expose chins in most of his fights.
Kimbo comes off as classy and humble.
He always does. That’s why I don’t get it when people bag on him like he’s up there talking all sorts of crap. All he’s ever said is that he’s trying hard and doing the best he can.
B.S.
Have you watched his internet fights? “Classy and humble” is not exactly the first words that spring to mind …
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Sounds like a good fight, however if Tito Ortiz sneaks in the cage and hits one of them i the back with a steel chair, I’m never watching this promotion again ;)
Seriously though, I like this fight, and it makes perfect sense. Kimbo has had his warm up fights, and it’s time to actually prove that he can hang with the big boys. Rogers obviously has the undefeated thing going for him as well, not to mention the fact that many view him as an up and coming talented fighter.
I’ve never seen any of rogers fights though, does he have any ground game, or is it all stand up?
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