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WEC: Excerpts From The Casual Fan

I came across Dave Meltzer's Weekly Newsletter in which he posed the question: Why people watched Elite XC and not WEC this past week?  Some of the responses are below:

WEC is a victim of the UFC's success and saturation. I view WEC as UFC
lite, Diet UFC. WEC to me is guys that are too small to fight in the
UFC. That might seem silly, but that is really the way I feel about
it. Whether they want to admit it or not, WEC is to UFC as ECW is to
WWE.

WEC has great no-name fighters while Kimbo Slice is a huge star right now.
Kimbo is why I wanted to watch the Elite XC show.

Just wanted to respond your latest question, the reason I didn't watch WEC was simply because my cable service (Charter Communications) doesn't carry Versus. I did watch Elite XC.
I watched the show on Saturday night, but didn't even know there was a WEC show on Sunday, and even if i did know you would have to strap me down to watch it, what channel was it on?. I've been watching Wrestling since Strike force were the tag champs, I gave UFC a shot in the mid 90's and hated it and have never watched it since, of course I am familiar with the top names, but none of the middle guys. The reason people watched saturday and not sunday is this... Kimbo slice was a huge hit on youtube, I'm 25 and in college everyone would tell each other about his videos. He was a hit with regular people not just MMA fans, when people heard they could watch him for free on channel 7 they were interested. No one cares about WEC, at least none of my friends.
I watched the Elite XC show on Saturday but I did not watch the WEC show on Sunday. The reason for this is that I have the Dish Network and I do not get Versus unless I pay an extra $10 a month. I buy UFC every month on PPV because it is the promotion I enjoy the most in the world and their matchups usually intrigue me. I was not interested in spending more money for the WEC although it does not seem like a bad promotion.

i ALWAYS watch EXC because it's the fun spectacle UFC refuses to be. i never watch WEC because i already have enough trouble keeping up with UFC, let alone its kid sister.

boxing is a sport. wrestling is a sport. jiu jitsu is a sport. however, FIGHTING is not a sport. fighting is an emotional context. a fight transcends the "sport" being used in the fight. a fight is about love, hate, respect, disrespect, ego, pride, machismo, insecurity, confidence, and everything in between.

when i watch EXC, i get fights in a way that UFC/WEC seem afraid to be. kimbo slice, frank shamrock, cunge le, gina carano, etc. these are characters that make me EXCITED. the way the ultimate warrior made me excited in 3rd grade.

The answer for me is simple: I knew Elite XC was going to be on CBS, so I watched it. Unfortunately, I did not know that TSN in Canada was showing WEC (there was no indication in the TV listings that TSN was going to be showing it). I happened to catch the main event of WEC show Sunday night flipping channels, but it was entirely by accident. If I had known TSN was showing WEC, I would have watched that entire show, too.

So you have everything from little to no promotion for WEC shows to people feel it's an inferior product to the UFC to folks wanting to see circus acts instead of skilled MMA fighter's.  Some reasons are understandable while others I guess you could blame it on just being a casual fan of MMA.  My question would be: what type of show would it take to please everyone?

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Some casual fans really suck.

by Yasnian on Jun 5, 2008 10:14 AM EDT   0 recs

You’re right, although plenty of hardcore fans suck too. Honestly, I don’t find any of those responses surprising. We all knew there would be plenty of people who just tuned in to see Kimbo without knowing a thing about MMA in general.

by FRANKIE on Jun 5, 2008 10:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah! They Suck!

I agree that the YouTube KIMBO following definately helped the EliteXc numbers. I know that I had heard of him months before he was fighting.

It’s like asking the same people if they’ve seen “my new hair cut” I swore if one more person asked me I was gonna puke, so I finaly watched it, and then I was the one asking!

all you gotta do is...

by imapimp08 on Jun 5, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

“My question would be: what type of show would it take to please everyone?”

Answer: Pride

its a shame its gone forever.

by strictlymma.com on Jun 5, 2008 11:04 AM EDT   0 recs

I respectfully disagree.

My question would be: what type of show would it take to please everyone?

The answer: Nothing. There is nothing that can please everyone. You can please most people, but there will always be some people who do not enjoy something; no matter how frivolous or stupid the reason.

by Estrada on Jun 5, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know.

The question was more of the rhetorical kind.

by Tha Realness on Jun 5, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In a literal sense, you are correct. Nothing will please everyone.
But, in an MMA sense, Pride had the talent, the match making(most of the time) and the showmanship and drama of wrestling to entertain the wider audience than any other promotion we have seen so far. If it wasn’t for their greedy nature and illegal dealings with the Yakuza, they would still be the number one promotion in the world. You can’t argue with numbers, and while their most watched fights generated 40+million viewers, our most watched fight saturday night drew 6.5 million. They were doing something right.

by strictlymma.com on Jun 5, 2008 1:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Personally, I hated the stupid entrances and overall production of Pride.

by Richard on Jun 5, 2008 4:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pro Wrestling fans are retards

What did you expect coming out of Meltzer’s mailbag? I’d lose faith in humanity if I had to read through his inbox.

I love to hate

by fightlinker on Jun 5, 2008 11:16 AM EDT   0 recs

Agree with the Pride comment. They put on a great show that has something for everyone. Plus the people in the stands were always quiet. I miss that.

As for those hating on casual fans, for the most part, we all started off as casual fans. A fan has to start somewhere.

by monkeyfightclub! on Jun 5, 2008 11:32 AM EDT   0 recs

boxing is a sport. wrestling is a sport. jiu jitsu is a sport. however, FIGHTING is not a sport. fighting is an emotional context. a fight transcends the “sport” being used in the fight. a fight is about love, hate, respect, disrespect, ego, pride, machismo, insecurity, confidence, and everything in between.

Since when do fights have refs, rules, and medical staff surrounding the fighters?

by Tonley on Jun 5, 2008 11:57 AM EDT   0 recs

That was the worst one, I think. Got quite the hefty headache from reading that.

by Gong on Jun 5, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

haha

lol @ “Strike force were the tag champs”

by nitro on Jun 5, 2008 12:26 PM EDT   0 recs

I watched two GREAT championship fights on the WEC. Faber & Torres both put on fantastic shows. Then on WRECAGE they showed a bantamweight fight by Ian McCall that was extremely entertaining. MMA is about action – and there is nothing minor league about the fighters or the broadcast. Too bad the WEC is on Versus. I get the channel but a LOT of people don’t.
EXC also has exciting fighters, their broadcast is decidely minor league though.

by toogie on Jun 5, 2008 1:43 PM EDT   0 recs

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