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Why Gina Carano Should Be Forced to Make Weight

Jordan Breen absolutely nails it:

Her undoubtedly impressive performance against Kaitlin Young (Pictures) this past Saturday night pushed her career mark to 6-0. For four of those six fights, Carano came in overweight. Against Julie Kedzie (Pictures) and Tonya Evinger (Pictures), Carano was a fraction of a pound over the one-pound allowance for 140-pound contests. Overweight, yes, but out of line? Debatable. However, this cannot make up for four and four-and-a-half pounds overweight Carano entered her bouts with Rosi Sexton and Young, respectively.

Together, these fights form a pattern of unprofessionalism which certainly wouldn't be tolerated for any other female, let alone a male fighter. Yet, it is a pattern masked by promoters eager to revamp fights at spur-of-the-moment catch weights and a fan base fortifying ideas of illegitimacy for females in the sport.

This is not a wholesale conviction of "Conviction." Despite her weighty indiscretions, Carano is a clearly talented fighter and her high profile has developed the sphere of female MMA. But when Carano revealed that she struggled to make weight because of an abbreviated training camp caused by filming the second season of American Gladiators, she may be closing in on a forced ultimatum: film or fight.

Carano has the talent to be something special, but if she wishes to use MMA as a platform to other pursuits, that's fine. However, making weight is an essential benchmark of professionalism that all fighters should be forced to meet. Contracted weights are not intended to be merely recommendations. Regardless of how much someone is over, their opponent was still forced to make weight, enduring the toll of meeting professional expectations. The process of the weight cut is often every bit as crucial to the unfolding bout as what happens in the cage. To allow certain prized individuals leeway in that struggle affords them an unsportsmanlike advantage.

Some have opined that bringing Carano up to 145 pounds would limit opportunities to fight natural 135-pounders, and with a dearth of heavier-weight female talent, would give MMA's most magnetic female a lack of notable opponent. While there certainly not the talent lurking above 135 as there is below that side of scales, Carano does not exactly fight an iron woman's schedule. Meanwhile, Marloes Coenen (Pictures) just destroyed another overmatched female in Holland this past weekend, looking for legitimate fights. A gritty Jen Case (Pictures) and the gamebred Cristiane Cyborg, both Pro Elite signees, would likely have no problem taking on the promotion's poster girl as featherweights. And that's without suggesting that Carano go a little further up the scale to meet the likes of her fellow American Gladiator Erin Toughill (Pictures), who has lamented the lack of female competitors to face her.

It's not just that it's unprofessional or that EliteXC deserves criticism for failing to take any punitive action. It's not that there aren't contenders at her "natural" weight. And it isn't just that there's a double standard going on with the help of the soft bigotry of expectations about what women can and should do as professional fighters. The truth is weight cutting can actually have a strong hand in the outcome of the fight. When Carano punts the decision to make weight while her opponent grinds it out, she automatically forces her opponents to fight at a disadvantage. With very minor real world consequences and Carano's history of not making weight, this is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Hats off to Breen for the even handed but forceful exposition.

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That’s all not to mention the difficulties I’ve been raising about the proper penalties for those not making weight. Taking a chunk of the purse means little to the people at the top of the food chain, and any significant percentage applied to the larger purse could motivate the other fighter to lose.

I don’t know the correct way to handle this, but clearly Gina needs to get serious about this stuff.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jun 4, 2008 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

No punitive action?

They did automatically award Young 12% of her purse. While I’d argue that they should have gone for 20 or 25 percent, that is at least some sort of retribution.

by bconnolly on Jun 4, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

You need to read jemaleddin’s two posts (Carano’s Bargain and Young’s Bargain) to see the argument that that was not really punitive (inasmuch as it is arguable that the win bonus - and thus the potential incentive not to worry about cutting weight - was likely significantly higher than the 12 percent “penalty”).

by Kierkegaard on Jun 4, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hells yeah

That jemaleddin guy is S-M-R-T! :-)

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jun 4, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moreover

I need to add a third article wrapping things up and pointing out that 12% was low enough not to hurt Gina and allow her to avoid cutting weight, and high enough that it probably exceeded Kaitlin’s paycheck, therefore could be seen as coercive in nature. Who’s going to turn down more than their paycheck + win bonus just to let somebody come in 4.5lbs heavy? Screw principle: that’s a ton of cash.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jun 4, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gina not making weight, and EliteXC not forcing her to, doesn’t do women’s MMA any favors. If MMA fighters want the rest of the world to see them as professionals, they have to make weight, and promoters have to insist on it. Totally unprofessional. Doesn’t do MMA any good.

by pud333 on Jun 4, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions  

...And

let’s keep in mind that Gina was in a pretty crappy position. EliteXC wanted her to sign the deal with AG for cross-promotional purposes, and in order to get the most bang for the buck, they wanted her to fight right after she wrapped filming. A responsible company would have either a) told her to pick one or the other, but not encouraged both, or b) put her on a different card.

Yes, it was her responsibility to make weight, but it’s a pretty crummy situation. There’s plenty of blame to spread around.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jun 4, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know they encouraged the AG thing. That actually does make her more sympathetic.

by Richard Wade on Jun 4, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine that they wouldn't?

I mean, why else would she HAVE to sign up to do a car right while the AG promotional machine is wrapping up?

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jun 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t really give it much thought, actually.

by Richard Wade on Jun 6, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would have made more sense with the word “car” changed into “card.” D’oh.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Jun 9, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the context was clear enough to overcome your spelling.

by Richard Wade on Jun 10, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could it be summed up as...

Gina. Pick a sport. MMA or glam-rock fake gladiator. Walking the fence ain’t working…

by swarmofkillermonkeys on Jun 4, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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