Kimbo's Trainer: Fight Should Have Been Stopped in 2nd

Kimbo Slice's trainer Bas Rutten agrees with those who thought James Thompson should have been awarded a TKO victory in the 2nd round:
People ask me if the fight should have been stopped at the end in the second round, I say YES because those are the rules, it should have been stopped because Kimbo didn't do anything to improve his situation. But I think what made the ref NOT do it was the fact that Kimbo was giving his thumbs up the whole time to let the referee know that he was OK. This was the refs decission, not Kimbo's.
But lest you think Bas is hanging his man out to dry, he's got a lot of good things to say about Kimbo's performance:
First let me start by saying: "It was his 4th fight".
The fight was hyped up so big that Kimbo needed a perfect performance to live up to the hype. Thompson had the chance of his life time so he trained insanely hard. People expect him to go down but they forgot that he stopped Don Frey and Hidehiko Yoshida, he has a suspect jaw, but he came in to fight!
I think this fight is going to be very good for Kimbo in the future. When you start fighting and competing and you never went the distance in a fight you never know what "getting really tired" means.
Ask any fighter on the planet if they fought more than 1 round when they fought their first couple of fights, how they felt. They will tell you that they thought they were in great shape but got tired really fast.
In training you can do pretty much anything to bring your heart rate up. Focus mitts, Thai pads, takedowns, running hills, explosive weight training etc. but NOTHING compares to getting tired in a fight, it’s just a whole different ball game.
But once you know this and experienced it one time, you know what to expect in the future.
That’s why I think that this fight was great for Kimbo, he really had to dig deep and boy did he do that. He was so tired at the end of round it was crazy, but he went out in round three and just started throwing bombs again, that says a lot to me about his will power, trust me, it has been tested here!
Bas also talks about Kimbo's mistakes in the fight:
He also didn’t close his guard a few times and he should have done that. In round two he had James in a guillotine choke but didn’t close his guard, that was too bad because Thompson escaped exactly how I showed Kimbo that you should escape when your opponent doesn’t close his guard, but you learn from your mistakes so that won’t happen again either.
He had Thompson in trouble the first and the second round with his punches but he got a little bit too “hungry” and kept on hitting which means that he planted his feet and that means that your opponent can go for a takedown, and that happened too. But here I go again, you learn from your mistakes and that won’t happen again.
All in all a very honest assessment of his fighter's performance from Bas Rutten. Just what we've come to expect from the man.
HT MMA Punch .
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Bas Rules. I don’t know if Kimbo will ever live up to his hype (probably not, but only because the hype is HUGE), but Bas just keeps showing us why he’s one of the best in the world.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
and it speaks very well of Kimbo
that he sought out Bas to train with and that he’s performed well enough for Bas to stick with him.
Or...
...it could be that it shows that for all his wisdom, Bas can be as gullible as anyone. He may be lying in his bed tonight whispering to Kimbo, “I wish I could quit you.”
Oh, sorry for the visual.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
(speechless)
(the poster formerly known as holden636)
by TheFightJournal on Jun 3, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
You never wondered how they “hooked up” together? I was assuming it was over drinks North of Miami at some West Palm Beach bar. Two straws and am umbrella in some fruity drink. A little dancing – maybe some whispered conversation. Next thing you know, Bas is taking Kimbo’s back and sinking in his hooks, if you know what I mean.
This answers the question of why Bas is standing by his man: once you go black…. :-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
As i said at 5 oz., this seems to me, to be a psychological ploy by Bas to keep Kimbo in check and let him know he very easily could have lost that fight.
"They said you was hung!!"
"And they was RIGHT!"
That’s a pretty fair assessment by Bas. But I don’t think Kimbo will ever live up to even a fraction of the hype around him. It’s not his fault, he’s just got his limits. The one thing going for Kimbo before the fight was his punching power. But he couldn’t put glass-jaw Thompson out despite several huge blows right to the chin. I think Kimbo’s almost done. He was exposed on Saturday. Gary Shaw is gonna have to take his time and chose an easier canned opponent for him for his next fight, cause one more bad fight should do it for Kimbo and what little mystique he has left. Or give him a quality opponent and hope he gets lucky and knocks the other guy out. Cause if he has another fight like he had on Saturday, people won’t care to watch him again.
....
Let’s all be thankful for El Guapo. I think it’s funny how in most of the articles, even before the fight, about kimbo, you rarely ever hear Bas’ name mentioned. You can’t dispute the fact that the guy just has a wealth of knowledge of the sport, and will be the key to any success that Kimbo has.
As for the comments about kimbo’s next fight, and gary shaw having to put another victim out there. i ask why? I don’t blame kimbo for not fighting better opponets, he’s still learning and needs to fight anyone put in front of him, but why not just fight some other up and comers. If he get’s beat, he get’s beat. It’s obvious that Gary Shaw wants to create a monster that will always be undefeated, but even the greatest fighters ever have been beaten.
Also, who's to say that Kimbo doesn't train even harder for whomever he fights next and winds up really showing some skill. LIke Bas said, it's only his 4th fight. It's imperative for him to fight someone who is deemed a respectable opponent. whether he wins or not, he needs to save face while he still can, or when the real fight does come, it could be a very embarrasing situation.
Hey Nate:
Let’s never refer to Bas “El Guapo” Rutten as just “Kimbo’s Trainer” in a headline again. Yes, there are a lot of people who saw the fight on Saturday who don’t know who Bas is, but screw them. SCREW THEM TO DEATH. Those people can BURN IN….
Oh – sorry – we’re not supposed to shout at the noobs… Anyway: we all know you know who he is, and we all know who he is, so let’s call him by name!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
That Bas is Kimbo’s trainer is what makes his comments on the fight notable, though.
by Richard Wade on Jun 4, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
But...
Everybody on the site knows that Bas is Kimbo’s trainer. For most of us, that’s most of the reason to pay attention to Kimbo: his association with Bas!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
Everybody commenting regularly might know that, but they’ve had a huge increase in traffic recently a lot of which is probably people who don’t know that.
And I say
...to hell with those people.
No, but seriously: What’s wrong with “Bas Rutten: Kimbo Should Have Been Stopped in the 2nd”? I think it’s all around punchier. :-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Jun 6, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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