Shonie Carter on the Impact of Iron Ring
Interesting interview with Shonie Carter on Sherdog. He makes some very interesting points about where Iron Ring succeeded:
...it did its job. It got people knowing the minorities, the Hispanics, the blacks into MMA. Was it the most exemplary example? I'll let the fans decide. For me, it was a step into a different direction. Because now black folks know who I am. Did you know that? Black people do not know me in my hometown. I walk down the street, it's, "Hey, aren't you that dude from ‘Iron Ring'?"
This is the way I am going to break it down, honestly. White folks, you all knew me from Spike TV, "The Ultimate Fighter" and the UFC. Black folks and Hispanic folks know me from "Iron Ring."
And where Iron Ring failed:
If they had not focused so much time on the hip hop guys, and actually show what we do as athletes -- you know, focus more on the fighters instead of the damn wannabe-tough-on-the-mic rappers. You know, and those sissy bully-ass athletes that call themselves fighters, but we call them boxers -- they'd probably get a lot more positive feedback.
That pretty much sums up the Iron Ring experience. Despite my prior defense of Iron Ring, I lost interest in the show before the end of the series and so did about 1/3 of its audience. They did a good job of drawing interest to MMA among new communities, but they didn't close the sale. Hopefully they'll retool and do a better job in the second season.
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I join you as someone who lost interest after four episodes or so. It beame all posturing and one-upmanship. Mostly, it was T.I., Novell G Bell, and that Mayweather guy. They were depicted as a bunch of clowns. I was suprised that Shonie got involved with this show. He happened to be one of the few coaches that actually made sense. He talks a bit more about it on “Inside MMA” on HDNet.
...Oh yeah, one last word for Mr. Bell…Your Kung-Fu is weak….
by Kel on
Jun 25, 2008 12:41 PM EDT
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I watched it, and I’d watch it again, but I’m a nerd like that. The guy announcing with Frank Trigg was god damn awful. It’s like the announcer didn’t even bother to see any fights beforehand to comprehend what was going on.
And during the round they would switch the camera shots to the dudes in the corner making all sorts of hand jestures and acting like fools. During the fight they did this. They could have done a lot better with that show.
by monkeyfightclub on
Jun 25, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
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Every since the episode where they stood the dude up when he was doing a sub…I stopped.
by Tha Realness on
Jun 25, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
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Wow did that really happen? I watched the first and second to last episode. But the reffing was that horrible? Christ…
by Tonley on
Jun 25, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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I.R. was a gross misrepresentation of mixed martial arts. The show was poorly made, and a lot of the so-called experts they brought in to coach had no idea what mma is about. The fans of the sport, and the fighters involed in the show who were trying to make a name for themselves were done a disservice by BET and Zilo. There should not be a season 2 of this show.
by Cmad77 on
Jun 25, 2008 1:38 PM EDT
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I'd agree with that...
...bringing the TMA guys in to coach MMA when they very clearly had no real grasp on the sport was a bad move.
I watched the show on and off this season and would give a second season a shot. But they have to get over the TMA thing.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Jun 26, 2008 1:14 PM EDT
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The Real Impact!!
I have lost hours of my life that i will never get back, lol!
"They said you was hung!!"
"And they was RIGHT!"
by BJJDenver on
Jun 25, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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