Steve Cofield Cares About Kim Couture
While we "sickos in the blogosphere" have been wallowing in the gore and guts of Kim Couture's rude welcome to pro-MMA, Steve Cofield at Yahoo raises some important red flags:
Did her husband Randy make an error by not throwing in the towel?
Is the Nevada State Athletic Commission at fault for licensing someone as inexperienced as Kim Couture?
Why was this bout fought with three, five minute rounds? We just watched the much more experienced Gina Carano battle Kaitlin Young with three, three minute rounds in place.
There is no better commission than Keith Kizer and Co. in Nevada. So if it erred in allowing Kim Couture to fight, it's scary to think the kind of matches that could be put together with inexperienced female fighters around the country but lesser qualified commissions.
The sport would be obliterated by the mainstream sports and news media if there were ever a female death in the cage or ring. This should serve as a serious warning.
Cofield's right.
UPDATE: I wanted to add another thought that occurred to me about this fight. Its not so much that this was a woman's MMA fight. This fight should be questioned regardless of the competitors' sex. Anytime a fighter suffers a major fracture the fight should be stopped between rounds. Its one thing for Frank Shamrock to conceal an arm break from his corner for a couple rounds against Cung Le. Presumably the corner had no idea. But I have to think that Kim couldn't talk to her corner after the first round and they should have known that something was very very wrong.
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I agree
While females can put on exciting fights…I’m with Dana White on this one…I don’t care to see females fight in mma or anywhere for that matter.
by Tha Realness on Jun 24, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When I was in Montreal White didn’t mention he was against females fighting, in fact he gave the impression that he was all for it. He did say that the UFC doesn’t have women fighting because he didn’t feel there were enough skilled fighters to continue to create compelling matches on a regular basis.
I’m all for women fighting, in fact they regularly put on matches that are more exciting than men. I watched this Rose/Couture fight on YouTube and it should have been stopped after the first round, Couture was hurt and to me it looked like her corner should have thrown in the towel. YMMV
by pr0cs on Jun 24, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was some special, whose name I unfortunately forgot, that was on MSNBC a while back that followed some fighters. One episode dealt with female MMA fighters, and in that Dana said like ‘call me sexist, but I don’t wanna see females fighting’.
by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Warrior Nation"
Was the name of the show. Did a quick google and can’t find the quote from Dana, but it’s there.
by mythbuster on Jun 24, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I saw that too but I’m just reiterating what White said recently when pressed why women weren’t fighting in the UFC.
Being a promoter I’m sure White would book womens fighter if it meant more money for the org.
by pr0cs on Jun 24, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have mixed feelings. I think women have a place in MMA and that they can put on exciting fights. On the other hand, the Kim Couture broken jaw has given me second thoughts. I remember a Kurt Pelligrino fight where his teeth got kicked threw his cheek and I was like what a warrior. Now with a woman in a similar situation i’m like ” no way i’d let my GF get her face turned to Ugly”
I loved watching Carano school Young on the feet, but not so much looking at Young’s face afterwards. A man can be beat up and still be attractive, but I think only so many beatings can a womans face take before she’ll be under the surgeons knife.
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on Jun 24, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, call me p.c. or whatever, but this is a terrible double standard. We can respect men when they have battle scars, but lament that it will make a woman less “pretty”? Isn’t there more to being a woman – and especially, to being a woman who fights – than appearance? I couldn’t care less how attractive a female fighter is, or a male fighter, for that matter, because I’m not watching either of them in a fashion show or thinking about picking them up in a bar. I’m watching them fight, and that means there’s a chance they’ll take a beating, but it’s a risk they’ve decided to take to try and achieve a victory in a test of strength and skill. I respect them for that.
And frankly, fuck EXC and everyone else who markets the shit out of Carano because she’s eye candy. There are other women who are just as tough/skilled but have a different look (naturally, not from fighting), and they get held back because of the way people treat Carano due to her appearance. That’s bullshit too.
Boy, I’m just pissed at everything this morning.
by AJB on Jun 24, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your entitled to your opinion
I was just expressing my own opinion that it really never crossed my mind before this Kim Couture debacle. I dont consider it a double standard for myself, because I watch the women fights for the fights, not in the hopes that I see a Tit flop out or anything. I believe they posses legitimate skills and provide MMA entertainment. Even if we understand how the “fighter” feels, that their pride is on the line, whether they are male or female, I think a cornerman should be looking out for the safety of their fighter, especially their wife!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on Jun 24, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, duh
But that’s not what you said before at all. Of course the corner should be looking out for the fighter’s safety. Same with the ref and the doctor. I really have no idea how this fight was allowed to continue, but I’d be saying the exact same thing if the fighters were male.
by FRANKIE on Jun 24, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, duh
I said absolutely nothing about the corner in my previous statement. It had nothing to do with my point to AJB either, it was merely something I missed when making my previous statement and felt it didn’t make sense to make a totally seperate post. I should have put it on a seperate line, my bad
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by imapimp08 on Jun 24, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXC
There’s nothing wrong with EXC marketing Gina Carano just because she’s eye candy. It’s smart business. They only care about the bottom line. Carano has drawn in more casual fans than Tara Larosa, Shayna Baszler, or any other arguably more skilled woman fighter ever could. If Kim Couture were succesful in her fight, it would have attracted even more fans for the same reason.
by steak_knife on Jun 24, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I KNOW that it’s smart business by EXC, but it also hurts the legitimacy of women doing MMA in the long run. Because people end up focused on the fighters’ looks, we constantly end up coming back to the “But if they keep fighting, they won’t be pretty” point of view. A woman who competes in pro MMA for a long time is going to get scars, probably a cauliflower ear, maybe a crooked nose. None of these things are a problem for a male fighter because they aren’t marketed on their looks; for a female fighter, they’re thrown out there as a reason why they shouldn’t fight (or the fights shouldn’t be shown; or promoters should just stick to marketing attractive fighters with a likely correspondingly short shelf life; or…). I don’t think EXC did anything that every other promotion wouldn’t do too; but that still doesn’t mean it’s good for the careers of the growing number of women fighters out there.
Ultimately, I just still can’t understand how people can have such a negative reaction to watching women throw down when they don’t have that reaction for men, or justify marketing a fighter party (Gina Carano) or solely (Ginele Marquez) based on looks when the same is rarely if ever done for the other gender. It just seems like an outdated, knee-jerk reaction, and as a society, we’re supposed to be past that. Even if I’m wrong, I don’t think I can ever get my head around the other point of view.
Maybe it’s just cause I get front row seats for my wife kicking the shit out of me on a daily basis, so a woman kicking ass just doesn’t seem so strange…
by AJB on Jun 24, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There will always be a double standard for women, & It maybe it does impact the legitimacy of women’s MMA—but as a fan, I have no problem with it. Fight promoters have to cater to their sponsors. Most companies will not want to be attached to an organization where a female gets her face punched in.
How can you not justify marketing a pretty fighter just because it’s not done with men? What demographic do you think these fight promoters are targeting? Sure, it is sexist. But Dana White, himself, admitted that he was sexist in ‘Warrior Nation’ on MSNBC. Again, this comes back to the sponsors, which directly impacts the bottomline.
MMA goes NOWHERE without Gina Carano. It’s because of her, that I (and many others like me) now know about the other talented women of MMA. It’s unfortunate that Kim Couture got pummelled—but had she won, women’s MMA would have been in an even better position.
by steak_knife on Jun 24, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kim Couture
You guys are way off on this one. Have you watched the fight? All three rounds were razor close, and could have easily gone to Couture. Yes, I know damage done is a big factor in decisions, but Kim absolutely dominated on the ground and threw tons of vicious knees. It seems like everybody is judging this fight based on these pictures.You gotta watch the fight. Her opponent did busted Kim’s nose with the first punch thrown, and busted her jaw at the very end, in between, she didn’t do much damage. Plus, Dana White is making a mistake with his whole” no chicks aloud “thing. I’ve seen some fantastic female fights.
by Josh H. on Jun 24, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s not a mistake not to include women’s mma. I’d be pissed if I ordered a PPV and it wasted space with women fighting.
by Richard Wade on Jun 24, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t watched this fight, but I’ll admit that the pictures of Kim Couture are tough to look at. I believe that women deserve to fight if they wish, and I’ve seen some great women’s matches. It’s just reflexive, for me anyway, to be disturbed by a woman who’s been battered badly.
Like I said, I haven’t watched the fight yet, so this may or may not apply, but I hate it when fighters have been matched poorly and a total destruction ensues. Those Kaitlin Young matches in the one night tournament were extremely one-sided. Her opponents seemed very much overwhelmed. It’s important that fighters are matched against opponents of similar skill levels. MMA doesn’t need someone unnecessarily hurt, or worse, because one fighter was in over their head.
In my opinion, they should have stopped the Kim Couture fight, because her jaw was obviously broken. That seems like enough.
by Cannon Jacques on Jun 24, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as far as the 3 minute vs. 5 minute rounds...
Cofield could have answered this question just by reading the Nevada Athletic Commission MMA rules. 5 minute rounds are required under NSAC guidelines. This is something you’ll likely see amended in the near future.
NSAC 467.7954 DURATION:
3. A period of unarmed combat in a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts must be 5 minutes in duration. A period of rest following a period of unarmed combat in a contest or exhibition of mixed martial arts must be 1 minute in duration.
by savagescience on Jun 24, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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