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California State Athletic Commission out of control!

about 1 year ago Nokout_tiny kazja13 3 comments 0 recs  | 

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Old enough?

Pardon me, but isn’t this ancient? There may or may not have been fixed fights at the time as MMA was either illegal, or unregulated. It’s even possible that some of these piddly-ass startup orgs lied about the types of fights that they were promoting. Lie to commission, or participate in a sport you love? That’s a hard choice…

Did you really expect the Commission to come out to the public and say “we know these people are breaking the law, but we can’t do shit to stop them?” No, of course not. Telling people the fights were fake saved their ass.

Do you really think the fighters in the UFC and other major organizations are able to fake some of the injuries they receive? And do you really think there’s enough quality writers for the companies to really make a believable storyline? Hell, I’m steal wait for Bas to get buried alive, only to come back from the dead to fight his new found brother, Fedor.

by EnsignFrog on Jun 13, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is still going on in California and wherever there are State Athletic Commissions.

All the same Inspectors still work for the Commissions. I even have proof of boxing. Antonio Barreras fight against his sparring partner Ceaser Najera in Palms springs at Fantasy Springs Casino. The fight was sure a fantasy.

GO FOR THE NOKOUT NOT THE TAPOUT!

by kazja13 on Jun 14, 2008 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CSAC OUT OF CONTROL

Here is one of many letters about the corrupt and out of control CSAC.

To Whom It May Concern-

I would like to inform you the bad experience I had with the State Boxing Commission last year starting in April 2006. My fighters were invited to a professional cage event called The XFC that was scheduled for 04/29/06 and needed to act fast in completing all the necessary medical exams & licenses for my fighters before the deadline of 04/15/06. The first thing I did was lose two days of work for the medical that was completed on 04/12/06 for two fighters I paid out of pocket of $285.00 each and then the third fighter around a week later also paying an additional $285.00. After explaining to the nurse that I need the results right away, she explained she does this type of paper work all the time. So she faxed the results to the State Commission in my presents and gave me the copies after. The nurse then gave me the work and cell number of Dean Lohman, State Boxing Commissioner for the Los Angeles office. After calling and speaking to Dean on 04/13/06, he informed me he received the medical reports via fax and to meet at his home in Huntington Beach, Ca, because I lived (Westminster, Ca.) and that it would be better for him. I thought about why at his home and not the office. I couldn’t decide what was best due to the time frame of the deadlines, so I stopped by his home later that evening on 04/13/06. When I finally met the gentleman we talk for a few minutes and he explained their procedures and what was needed from my team. We had all the paper work in order & completed including the State Commission forms given to us by the clinic where the medical exams were done. He then checked the forms and asked me to pay him in cash ($80 ea. Fighter) of $240.00 since it was a rush and he knew it was important. I asked for a receipt and he told me it was at the office and that he would mail it when he got to the office the following day. I told him I was a little uncomfortable leaving without something written for proof and then he said he was honest and has been doing this for years. I figured I shouldn’t rock the boat since we needed the fighters registered ASAP and why would he invite me to his home, so I had no choice. I then called 04/17/06 numerous times to ask when will I be receiving the licenses and he said that the front desk will call me with the numbers over the phone in the next day or two. I was stressing at this point and never got the call. I continue to call 3-4 times a day for the next 4 working days when the secretary informed me that they don’t have licenses at this time. I decided to stop by Lohman’s home and I saw his car parked, but he never answered his door. I was upset at this point and then finding out that my fighters had to meet the commissioner at the promoters home for a sparring session 3 days before the event and thought it was inappropriate and unprofessional due to a possible injury when one of my fighters did get hurt.
After all the rushing around, the promoter called telling us that the State Commission closed the event. I then bumped into Dean in San Diego where he was assigned to another fight event within the next few months. I asked when he will be giving us or license and my receipt. He told me he would call which he did and told me not to worry and that he would vouch for my fighters in any future events. Then in late July we were asked to participate one of our fighters for an event called Pangea Fights in August 18th, 2006. So now we were waiting again for Dean and I kept calling for the licenses. He informed me that he would talk to the commissioners working that event and will inform the promoters it would be okay, so we attended the weightings. After arriving, the commissioner there told us he couldn’t fight due to his physical and license and that they called Dean and told us Dean said something else. I explained to the commissioner and promoter and the promoter was being pressured as well and worried the event will close as well. I then called Dean and ask what the heel was going on and to talk to his co-workers which the commissioner at the venue did not want to speak to Dean, so I handed the cell phone to the promoter (Jamie) and after talking with him for 20mins he then handed me the phone and told me that I never turned in the paper work from the doctors when I showed him our copies for proof. The commissioner at the venue did not want to see them and insulted me telling me that they were fake when he didn’t even want to see for himself. I was furious and ask if we can just weigh in our fighter for the record. They refused and they asked to promoter to have us leave the premises. I refused and stood by the commissioner and asked for his name and refused that as well. Another thing I witness while sticking around was that the commissioner was pressuring an 18 years fighter to sign in for a fight that was out of his weight class and a more experience fighter. I couldn’t believe my ears and what I was experiencing that evening. Even the fighter that was heavier was saying it was not right, but was afraid to let the commissioner know. I was experiencing an organization (State Boxing Commission) controlling and intimidating everyone. I heard about it, but now in the middle of it and it was very discouraging. From that point I called Dean everyday until he gave me an answer and he said that his manager knew and to call him. I then called and he said he needed to call Dean to confirm after telling him that Dean was the one to call him. So for the nest 5 hours, back and forth I called and they kept telling me that they can’t get a hold of one another. It was nothing but a run around form two thieves. It was so bad that I had to stop after months of calling and hours. I was ashamed to be part of this knowing I was going to be ripped off and others. Now Dean pocketed my money and his superiors backed him up. I continued to see Dean in other events and the same thing…call him and he’ll take care of everything. What a joke while I’m out of $890.00.

Thank you for your time and hope you can put a stop to this corruption soon,

Gilbert Cardiel Jr.

GO FOR THE NOKOUT NOT THE TAPOUT!

by kazja13 on Jul 7, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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