WEC 34: Faber vs Pulver Live Blog
by Kid Nate on Jun 1, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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Don't miss the live undercard results from our man Michael Rome live at the Arco Arena in Sacramento. Alright, we'll be starting the main card coverage in five minutes or so. Michael Rome will be chiming in with live reports from Sacramento. I moved the other fights to the extended entry so we can savor the headliner:
Urijah Faber Vs. Jens Pulver
This is the greatest 145lb matchup ever to take place in the U.S.of A. Faber has been a dominant champion in the WEC and is the face of the organization. Pulver is a legend who has usually fought at 155lbs -- including a stint as the first ever UFC lightweight champ. Pulver was never really big enough for 155lbs and is undefeated at 145. On paper Pulver has the perfect sprawlNbrawl style to stymie Faber. We'll see if he's got what it takes in the cage. In the battle of the terrible hairdo's I'd have to call it a tie. Faber dug deep to come up with the stupid cornrows to match Pulver's inevitable awful shaving art. Equally icky intro music from both fighters but Faber's dancing was definitely worse. Unusual to see Pulver with a height advantage.
Rome from the Arena:
Faber gets a Liddell-esque star reaction to his entrance. Pulver got scattered boos, but they don't hate him, they are just pro-Faber.
- Round 1: Pulver claims the center of the ring. Faber lands a right. Uriah with a headkick as Pulver forces him back. They're tied up in the clinch. Faber scoring in the clinch. Pulver not having the standing advantage I expected. Faber slips, Pulver jumps into Faber's guard, a very tight guard. They're back to the feet. Eyepoke by Uriah pauses the action. Pulver lands a left, finally. Pulver lands a knee. Uriah throwing hard and often. Pulver gets the plum but Faber breaks it and lands his own knees. Faber with the straight right followed by a combo -- left hook then a kick. Pulver has Faber's back standing. Faber with a spinning back fist that misses. Pulver lands a mean combination. Faber ducking and firing. I'd give it to Faber, 10-9.
- Round 2: Faber with an accidental nut kick to start the round. Pulver pauses to recover. Pulver gets a takedown, Mir predicted it. Faber has Pulver on his back, against the cage, landing elbows. Ouch. But Pulver is defending well. Jens fights back to his feet. Impressive.Faber cracks Pulver with a right and drops him. Pulver is hurt, Faber is pouring it on but Pulver is surviving. Faber has him down and is beating him on the ground but Pulver escapes to his feet. Amazing toughness by Pulver. Jens lands a mean uppercut. Faber gets a takedown but Pulver gets top control and is working for a choke. Back to the feet. Faber landing some mean shots. Amazing fight! Faber has to wonder what it'll take to finish Pulver. I'd almost score it 10-9 for Faber but incredible balls out performance by Pulver.
- Round 3: Pulver with a high kick. Pulver lands a jab, stuffs a takedown, Faber gets his back and slams Jens but Jens is right back up. Incredible! Right hand by Faber. Uppercut by Pulver. Faber lands a right and a left. Body kick by Pulver stuns Faber. but Faber fires back with some brutal kicks of his own. Faber shoots and Jens stuffs it, Pulver elbowing the head. Faber gets the top position, Pulver holds guard and eat an elbow, another. a third. Pulver working to get a sweep from butterfly guard. Uriah lands one last elbow as the ref stands them up. The crowd boos the standup. They trade to end the round. I score it 10-9 Faber.
- Round 4: They're trading brutal shots to open the 4th. Faber is stunned iwth a left. Faber looks stunned but is still firing hard shots. They're pausing a bit, Faber with a hard left and a body kick. A pair of lefts by Faber. Pulver paws and Faber responds with a hard left. Faber is landing far more hard shots. Straight kick by Faber. Uriah gets a takedown to Jens' guard. Elbows are busting up Pulver's face. Jens is doing a good job of controlling Uriah but still eating shots. Jens eats a forearm to the throat that has him wincing. Faber's winning another round but Jens' is managing to survive on the ground with Uriah, not an easy feat. Opens up a cut on Pulver's eye. 10-9 for Faber.
- Round 5: Pulver needs a KO to win this fight. Hug to start round 5. Faber with a bodykick. Shoots and Pulver escapes. Faber with another lead right. Body kick caught by Pulver but Faber escapes. Faber scoring again and again. Knees by Faber. Pulver throws a left but gets nothing. Time is slipping away from Pulver as he tries to set up the left. Faber shoots and Jens stuffs it. Pulver with two hooks to the body. Faber lands a brutal knee to the face. Farber poppiing him with jabs. Bodylock, Jens tries for a whizzer, Faber gets him down and ends the fight in Pulver's 1/2 guard landing elbows.
Great fight. Reminds me of nothing less than one of those great 80's wars between Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvin Hagler. Great great night of fights from WEC. Its been said in the comments that this event should've gotten the 7.5 rating on CBS last night. Amen brother. Amen.
Kenneth Alexander Vs. Rob McCullough
This is Razor Rob's chance to start a comeback and earn a shot at Jamie Varner, the man who took his 155lb title. That's provided that Varner beats a very very tough Marcus Hicks at the next WEC. Mir is saying that McCullough came in out of shape against Varner. They're working hard to build up Alexander -- using the infamous "trains with a great camp" line, not quite as bad as "he has a LOT of heart" but close. Alexander is wearing his specs on the walk to the ring.
- Round 1: They circle, lots of movement, some feints. Some booing from the crowd. Alexander shoots, Razor ends up on top in Alexander's guard. Alexander up against the fence, holding McCullough's arms. They stand, back to the center of the ring. Alexander fires a high kick. Razor Rob is not throwing much, looking to get inside Alexander's reach. Razor stuffs a shoot. Another high kick from Kenneth, front kick, some punches. Razor with a leg kick. More boos. Razor fires a flurry. They clinch. McCullough's back to the fence, Alexander goes for a choke. They separate.Alexander shoots, Razor escapes, Razor misses with a knee to the head. Weak round. I score it 10-9 for Alexander.
- Round 2: Alexander with a body lock take down, McCullough stands up. I'm beginning to think that Alexander is a real bad matchup for Razor Rob. Too tall. McCullough threatens a superman punch. Alexander lands a head kick. More feints and trades. Jab by Alexander, McCullough responds with a roundhouse. Alexander wiffs a spinning headkick. Razor landing leg kicks. This is not a fun fight so far. Alexander dodges a knee to get a takedown, McCullough fights back to his feet. Alexander gets a bodylock takedown in the center of the ring, ends the round in Razor's 1/2 guard. Another 10-9 for Alexander.
- Round 3: Alexander's corner told him to keep it slow. Yuck. They're trading but not much landing. Snooze. Crowd is chanting FIGHT FIGHT as Alexander tries another takedown and misses another knee. Mir is criticizing McCullough's ring control. Alexander tries for another takedown he can't get. These guys are a total stalemate. McCullough finally lands a knee but to little effect. Low blow by McCullough. Looks painful. Frustration on the part of Razor Rob? They're back at it. Alexander with a roundhouse, then a shoot, gets stuffed. Back to the dance. McCullough throws another knee, misses again, another clinch, another failed shoot. Alexander catches a kick, trips McCullough to the ground, Razor fights back to his feet. Mir says that takedown doesn't count for anything. Razor stuffs another shoot as the round ends. Have to score this one for Alexander. Weak weak fight.
- Judges Decision (split) for Razor Rob McCullough. Its Christmas present in June for the former champ. Terrible performance. Crowd is booing and rightfully so.
Jamie Varner picks Faber over Pulver in a between fight interview. He's taking his next challenger Marcus Hicks seriously and he should. Now we have to endure a WEC 205lb fight. Why we didn't get to see Jeff Curran vs Mike Brown or Alexandre Nogeira instead of this, I don't know.
Chuck Grigsby Vs. Mark Munoz
Interesting matchup here, Grigsby has a huge height/reach advantage and is a striker. Munoz is a very highly regarded wrestler. I was grumbling about this fight but now I'm intrigued. Could be a classic striker vs wrestler bout. Grigsby is intimidating at the staredown, we'll see how good his sprawl is.
- Round 1: Grigsby landing some jabs, avoids the first shoot and the 2nd. Grigsby even goes for a choke. Munoz might be in deep here. Grigsby connects with a big uppercut. Munoz gets a single but not the takedown. Now they're up against the cage. Munoz gets him down and gets side mount. We'll see if he....Grigsby gets guard. Nice high guard. Munoz seems totally one dimensional but Grigbsy's guard isn't dangerous enough to catch him. Munoz stand and lands a big punch coming down. Does it again and moves to side mount. Back to 1/2 guard. Grigsby working for a kimura. Munoz passes, throws some shots. This is the sort of classic MMA matchup that we should've sen from Elite XC last night. Grigsby reaches for a leglock, misses and Munoz pounds him out. Slow start from Munoz but he really poured it on at the end. Mark Munoz by TKO.
Danny Castillo v. Donald Cerrone: They promote this one from the undercard, always a good sign.
- Round 1: Cerrone looks sharper standing. Castillo takes Cerrone down early, and does some damage, but Cerrone catches him in an armbar at 0:30 of round 1. Cerrone's grappling gets compliments from Mir, for his good use of rubber guard on the way to a submission. Nice win from the Greg Jackson trained Cerrone.
Update from Michael Rome live at the Arco Arena:
The place is now completely packed. I also can tell the difference in the crowd from the typical UFC crowd with their exorbitant prices (less gold diggers).
Yoshiro Maeda Vs. Miguel Angel Torres
This is a fight I'm stoked about. Torres really impressed me in his last fight. He took Chase Beebe's 135lb belt like he was taking his lunch money with an amazing succession of submission attempts that smoothly transitioned from one to the next before finishing his man. Maeda is a dangerous striker but Torres is no slouch on his feet and will have a serious reach advantage. Maeda gets points from this aging Gen Xer for coming out to "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys and he's got Clay Guida in his corner. Herb Dean is the ref. Torres' mullet looks shaggy as ever. Icy cold staredown from both fighters.
- Round 1: No glove touch to start out. Maeda catches a kick and gets Torres down. But Torres back up quickly and lands a series of knees on Maeda's face. Maeda is keeping his hands low. Gets another takedown off a kick, right into Torres' guard. Oompaplata armbar but Maeda fights out of it. Back to the feet. Maeda is taunting Torres on the feet. Hard leg kick from Torres. Maeda with a front kick. Torres scores with more knees. Scrambles and knees exchanged, Torres pulls guard, goes for a kneebar. Torres bleeding. Maeda firing shots as they stand back up. Knee to the liver from Torres. Maeda firing back with kicks. Hard one to score. I give it to Torres 10-9.
- Round 2: Torres on his butt from a slip early on. Maeda gets another takedown off a kick, first several leg kicks, dodges a vicious upkick from the lanky Torres. Back to the feet. Nice exchanges. Maeda is tough as shit. Maeda seems calmer than the Champ. Torres lands another body kick, some knees against the fence from Torres, uppercuts, Maeda recovers and returns fire. Great fight! Takedown, Maeda goes for some leg locks, heel hook, even a toe hold, they're trading toe holds! Torres firing heel kicks. They're scrambling and Maeda lands some mean elbows. Torres tries a triangle. The crowd applauds the ground action as they stand up and keep trading. Torres gets a guillotine, has it deep but Maeda gives up mount to escape. Torres has his back with a figure four body lock. Round ends with Torres firing away. Torres 10-9.
- Round 3: They seem a tad tired to start round 3. Torres connects with a jab then a knee. Maeda lands a left off a kick by Torres. Torres lands a sharp flurry forces Maeda against the fence. Maeda comes right back though. Looks like Torres is picking him apart. Torres with knees and punches. Maeda's face is swelling up bad. Roundhouse to Maeda's ribs. Maeda gets a crazy takedown and lands some ground and pound. Torres going for shoulder lock, triangle, nothing there. Maeda holding on in Torres's guard, and they stand up. Torres lands a right then a right body kick. Maeda is game as all hell. 10-9 Torres.
- Round 4: No round 4 -- Herb Dean stops the fight and awards Torres the win. The fighters raise each other's arms in a great show of respect. Torres holds his belt but had all he could handle from a very tough challenger. Great fight. We'll see if Faber vs Pulver can top that. Torres by TKO in 3.
Update from Michael Rome in the Arco Arena:
I don't know if it came across on TV, but the crowd was going nuts for that fight. Tremendous action and the crowd was going nuts for all of it.
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I don’t care if the WEC doesn’t give BE a bump in traffic, I am so pumped for this fight.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you
This will be a much much better night of fights than EliteXC.
by Kid Nate on Jun 1, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCullough
Is having a hell of a time finding his distance here. Taking kicks and jabs from the outside, but he’s afraid of the takedown on the inside. I like his patience, but he’s got very little striking going early on here.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McCullough looks exceedingly tentative.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He knows this is a 3 round fight, right?
Does he have a hand injury or something? He’s throwing no right hands.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But his TD defense is REALLY good. His hips are so heavy and deep. I saw a video of Razor avoiding I saw a video of Razor avoid TD’s with good wrestlers hitting duck unders from a step away and he still stopped them. I’m very impressed.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not exactly a thriller so far, huh?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey
At least their technical. At least this isn’t Haselrig vs. Moreno.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from the description of that fight
All I can say is, “Thank God.”
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sensing Mccullough's going to go for a knockout here.
by P Brady on Jun 1, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking
He’s gun shy after the Varner fight.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks a lot more fit than he did against Varner, but he’s got no fire at all. Does he know he just lost?
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
His jab from 4 feet away is weak too. He looks like he’s gun shy or something.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I skipped out to drive to the store
What’s the opinion on that decision?
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crappy Fight
I think Alexander won 2 rounds, maybe all 3. Neither guy really fought to win, so it’s hard to complain too much either way.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grigsby looks like RuPaul
(that’s not a compliment)
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You spoke too soon
Faber is rocking some godawful cornrows and Torres is still sporting his raggedly ass mullet. Far worse than anything we saw last night.
by Kid Nate on Jun 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fight in the crowd gets a big pop! There was a knockout!
by Michael Rome on Jun 1, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is my first time watching WEC … legally. Anyway. That’s Mir commentating, right? I like him.
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Call me a noob but I always feel like somethings missing when Rogan isn’t on the mic.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Munoz
He looked a little out of sorts early, but he’s hammering RuPaul’s ass now.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If things hold up, This thing will be over next round
by P Brady on Jun 1, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jeez
That turned into an outclassing.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well played
Now drop down to MW, like now.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
enough with the Zohan commercials
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn’t they combine it with the new Mike Myers movie and spare us all?
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh don't worry
I’m sure after neither of these movies meet expectations, that’s the next step for Myers and Sandler.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could make a super movie with Eddie Murphy, Robin Williams and … Will Ferrel.
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only if Eddie Murphy plays ten characters
Some of them in FAT SUITS. Ha ha ha!
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget Spade, Schneider, and one of Farley’s brothers.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Nealon gets in there somewhere.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're lucky
It’s just sports updates and normal commercials here in the Canadia
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I want to put a stamp on my name." /Castillo
What does that even mean?
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Munoz vs. Grigsby
The Munoz vs. Grigsby fight already put the whole EliteXC show from yesterday to shame. Good stoppage, the ref had to take one for the team.
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yo
What’s up with the screen name?
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
;)
I couldn’t think of anything else, so I chose something unique. I look at it as a type of oxymoron. haha
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
I hate MMA fans – present company excluded; I love y’all – but I don’t hate MMA.
Well, it’s different. Keep posting…hater:)
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his name is stamped
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm
Didn’t Stann just knock Cantwell out in like 30 seconds last year?
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ack! Urijah's head has Bo Derek braids!
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw the fight… lets take these guys down to the barbershop.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I first saw it...
I thought it was kaitlin young. hehe
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure which bothers me more
Torres’ mullet or Faber’s chin.
At least Faber’s chin isn’t his fault.
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Torres’ mullet is hereditary too. I saw his pops on the preview show.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Throws hands and feets… just equally well.”
/ Frank Mir, commentator, fighter, linguist
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he’s been there all night. He stands and shadow boxes in the general direction of the fighters while they’re getting checked out before they get into the ring.
He’s making them uneasy.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Torres
Would like a word with Rob McCullough on coming to fight.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
These people are demanding.
Fight slows down a bit and you hear boos already
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
those people are dumb
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess its the price of popularity. You get the people who want to see the Tough Man Show.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
They just couldn’t be stupider. It was a great round with both guys bringing it.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
Kimbo Slice = 7.2 the final 15 minutes in the ratings. That blows UFC75’s 5.7 out of the water.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sigh
I don’t know how I feel about that.
We know there’s an audience out there, just not sure if they like dancers, rappers, and fighters writhing like Chippendales, or actual MMA.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ref should call a time out, make sure his ear isn’t bleeding
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
This is pretty awesome.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now this is a fight
Well-deserved ovation.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“He… he gave up both of his own feets!”
“He’s GOT NO ARM!”
/ Frank Mir
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a nice Shamrock vs. Frye tribute.
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Herb Dean is watching Maeda’s eye hard. This looks like the last round.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least its not controversial. That was a pretty obvious need to be stopped.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kaitlin Young looked at Maeda’s eye (with her good eye) and said, “that looks bad”
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
too bad
But understandable. Hell of a fight.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Maeda’s right eye and part of cheek looked liked it belonged on a smiling Buddha. That was swollen big time.
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best fight I’ve seen this weekend by far.
by Cannon Jacques on Jun 1, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Lawler-Smith could have been as good, but dumb doctor messed up that chance.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have to beg to differ
as good as Lawler/Smith was, there was almost no ground action in that one as opposed to Torres/Maeda where both guys are very skilled on the ground.
by Kid Nate on Jun 1, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn’t need ground action, imo. Just needs excitement, and I think both fights were very exciting.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. And the pace was on a different level in this case. But there’s no doubt that Lawler/Smith was shaping up to something good if it wasn’t for that stoppage.
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd agree with that
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference
When I watch the WEC and UFC I never feel like it’s fixed. I don’t always agree with the scorecards, but the outcome never seems predetermined. I watched that Elite XC show last night and the last 4 fights felt rigged. I’ll never watch one of their shows again, not as long as Gary Shaw is around. He’s bad for MMA and it makes me sick.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shaw.
He must be related to Don King. Grandmother or something like that.
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
King is less of a shit than Shaw in many ways
I’d be happy to keep Shaw confined to boxing. He’s bad enough there. I’m not saying he never does anything good, but I’m already used to him in one venue. Stay there, Gary.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love these ridiculous promos
It’s gonna be like a tornado of…things flyin in the air…and touch down in the cage…
???
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the up and down. Great stand-up mixed with some amazing groundwork. Miguel Torres is awesome. He can do it all. Maeda brought it, too. Let’s see what Pulver and Faber have.
by Cannon Jacques on Jun 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His head reminds me of those mazes in kids books. I wanna start writing on his head and find the exit.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying I need it or the show needs it or anyone needs it, but if this main event tops the last fight then we’ve seen a hell of a good night of MMA to wash EXC out of our mouths.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
she's a suitor
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a real female cop or is she one of those stripogram cops?
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SC says shes a suitor. I don’t want to ask what that means, tho, cause I don’t want to look dumb.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
she's bona fide
She’s got prospects.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why am I surprised that Chuck Liddel has supplements now?
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pulver looks slow with his hands
When was the last time he knocked a guy out with that left hook?
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Faber's lead right is killer
Mir’s reference to Bernard Hopkins was pretty good.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pulver looks lost and frustrated as hell
It sucks to see that look on a guy’s face with 4 rounds to go.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
holla!
Talk about low blow.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was an unnecessary replay, in my opinion.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everybody loves a good kick to the nuts replay.
+Kongo/Crocop joke
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man
Pulver is some kind of tough, but Faber is killing him.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He had Faber blinking a little there. Amazing.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guess Pulver answered all the questions about his conditioning. Good for him.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS
Should have aired on CBS last night. Not that garbage.
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pulver
Needs to let his hands go and go to the body.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If only THIS show was the one to get the 7.2 rating last night.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinkin Urijah is about to get knocked out.
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by TheFightJournal on Jun 1, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jens finally landed a couple left hooks.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urijah’s takedowns and wrestling are non-existent for this fight. And he is getting a little too confident with his hands.
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by TheFightJournal on Jun 1, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind.
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by TheFightJournal on Jun 1, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A stand-up? In a mount? Curious.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the standup was from butterfly guard.
by Richard Wade on Jun 2, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap
That head butt didn’t help. His orbital bone is shattered.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you are here right now
give yourself a round of applause for being a real MMA fan
by Luke Thomas on Jun 1, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
I did not expect to see a 4th round. Jens knows it’s now or never.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urijah is just picking apart that left eye.
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on, Jens. Throw! Use that left!
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dang, Pulver looks gassed finally. Good show though. Really good show.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jens got hurt there
If he can survive this minute then I’ll be pretty surprised.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
watching Pulver's face hurt me
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he said, “Hey, dude, he hit me in the throat 3 times down here, wanna tell him to stop?”
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Faber is ridin dirty tonight. Pulver’s pain threshold is amazing.
I wanna see a point taken is Faber keeps that up.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
As I said… two headbutts, a low blow and an eye poke. throat shot and another low blow later…
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jens keeps watching the clock now. Can’t blame him, I guess. WIsh he’d throw a few more lefts though.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d have to guess he doesn’t think he can get them home.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man. Pulling for Jens. Get the evil goin all ready.
by Heenan on Jun 1, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Faber
Is still bouncing on his toes. Jesus. We knew Jens was a warrior, now we know Faber is too.
by jebushchrist on Jun 1, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jens goes out on his shield
What a tough sumbitch. Great performance by Faber.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was very cocky there for a guy who got at least 5 dirty shots in to win. Guess even Mr Clean isn’t above the “anything to win” thing.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think the throat shots or the low blows were on purpose. The headbutts are tricky, but I’ll go with them not being done on purpose either.
by IHateMMA on Jun 1, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand. But counting how many accidents Pulver got on Faber, that would be 0.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think Pulver could’ve hung that long with Faber. He’s a tough dude, even at this point in his career.
by Cannon Jacques on Jun 1, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That eye looks messed up.
Broken? Anyway…what a fun night of fights. Definitely erases the bad taste in my mouth from last night.
by the exit on Jun 1, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we forget the first fight, was a hell of a good night of fights!
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like some good fights. Hopefully these will be up on the net soon.
by idefinecagefighter on Jun 1, 2008 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great show
Last two fights were fantastic. Pulver is still a cool SOB.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Jun 1, 2008 11:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic card. This year’s one of the most entertaining so far.
by Gong on Jun 1, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This whole package – fights, commentary, production – is what I like to see in an MMA event. You don’t have to have a bunch of hype and quasi-pop culture celebs.
by Cannon Jacques on Jun 1, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really missed the dancing girls and rappers.
I joke.
by mythbuster on Jun 1, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AGS?
Are you guys doing a radio show tonight?
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by TheFightJournal on Jun 1, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No sir
I couldn’t reschedule and the time I had it for became meaningless. Apologies to all. Stay tuned for rescheduling.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 2, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you still doing WhoopAss Radio?
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by TheFightJournal on Jun 2, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long story short
I don’t know what’s going to happen to the show.
by Luke Thomas on Jun 2, 2008 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great fight. Great event.
This is what happens when you put real talent into the cage. Both title fights were tremendous.
by Popetastic on Jun 1, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WEC >>>> EXC
Very true; the Pulver v. Faber fight was awesome, but that Maeda v. Torres fight was absolutely insane.
by Estrada on Jun 2, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its been said 100 times already but...
absolutely incredible last 2 fights. Torres is an absolute beast. Faber is as quick as lightning. Those 2 are top tier fighters. Thank you vs.
by !claw on Jun 2, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sac town deserves a standing ovation.
Easily the best crowd reaction of any show in the US. They really appreciated the top skills of the fighters tonight.
Kudos to Mir as well. Spot on analysis.
by !claw on Jun 2, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mir>Rogan
I think so.
But both are very good.
by Newblood on Jun 2, 2008 12:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough call. Rogan is smoother on the mic, probably because he’s doing commentary, comedy, acting and all of that for so long. But Mir seems to be a tough more insightful than Joe. He also doesn’t get quite as wrapped up in the excitement of the moment, which is also both pro and con. Mir’s delivery is improving.
by Popetastic on Jun 2, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy there. Sounds like you’re still under the influence of the post-WEC euphoria. Mir is a little too easily excitable. Every time someone even turns their hips, he jumps out of his chair and declares it to be over. Good commentator but not the best. Rogan has been doing this for many years now and, despite criticisms, he is good at his job. Mir is great for the WEC.
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by TheFightJournal on Jun 2, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
both are quality
I thought Mir was much improved tonight. You are right that he still is a bit overeager declaring the fight over with the submissions. That said, he clearly understands the game better than any other analyst and it comes through enough.
Rogan is certainly capable and doesn’t take anything off the table, but he doesn’t add as much as Mir. Of course half of his energy is trying to keep Goldy in line.
by !claw on Jun 2, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was outstanding. It certainly cleansed the palate after Saturday’s night of fights.
by Richard Wade on Jun 2, 2008 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Clay Guida
To me he wasn’t on Maeda’s corner, he was sitting ringside as an spectator as we saw him taking pictures in every fight
by demonianray on Jun 2, 2008 2:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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