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Dana White = Vincent K McMahon

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The MMA industry is going through some very similar growing pains to what the professional wrestling industry went through in the 80's. Yes, I know most people on this website don't like pro wrestling, but as much as you may dislike it there are many parallels between MMA now and pro wrestling in the 80's.

Right now, the UFC led by Dana White is the top promotion in the country, and probably the world when it comes to MMA. Much like Vince McMahon in the 80's and 90's Zuffa is snatching up talent (Brock Lesnar, Shane Carwin, etc) and using its money to buy out rivals (WEC, Pride, and the WFA).

The WWE (then known as the WWF) in the eighties was the first promotion to try to take pro wrestling national. At the time, most promotions ran certain territories or regions and did not take their promotions all over the country for cards like what is so common today. The WWF ran the northeast, the NWA and Crockett Promotions (eventually WCW) the south, World Class Wrestling in Texas, and the AWA in the Mid-West. McMahon was able to use his business savey and television contracts to go national (much like the UFC did with the TUF show on Spike). He spent money wisely and raided talent from the other promotions (Hulk Hogan came from the AWA, Road Warriors from the NWA, etc) and eventually these small regional promotions fell apart as they could not afford to hang and bang with the WWF. Apart from a battle of 3 wrestling promotions in the mid to late 90's (WWF Vs. WCW Vs. ECW) and the famous Monday Night Wars of  the last wrestling boom period the now WWE really has the wrestling world all to itself. (TNA does exist, but does it really compete yet with the WWE?).

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The same thing will eventually happen with MMA. For now, we have small regional promotions like Elite XC and Strikeforce (California), King of the Cage (the desert southwest), etc that exist, but are really not drawing the money needed to compete with the UFC. Like Dana White or not, he has taken the same strategy that Vince McMahon took and applied it to the MMA world. Take big, out of this world stars with great charisma and use them to make huge amounts of money at the live gate and sell hundreds of thousands of pay per views.

Sure, Elite XC will be running a show this Saturday that will make them the first promotion to do a big league MMA show on a network. But get real, that deal won't last 3 shows tops. It's a rating disaster waiting to happen. The first show will probably do well, but I doubt they maintain the audience for a second show. This show does have some name value with Scott Smith, Phil Baroni, Robbie Lawler, and Kimbo Slice. The first 3 are guys who could not cut it in the UFC today (or the UFC of 5 years ago) and Kimbo Slice is at best a novelty act (and time will tell if he will draw or whether the novelty will wear off once he faces a real opponent and gets beat).

These shows will cost a lot of money to promote and eventually they are not going to be able to keep up with the well oiled machine that the UFC is. If they develop stars, the UFC can outspend them and steal them. Or the UFC can let promotions like Affliction overspend on talent for one show that won't crack 50,000 buys on pay per  view and will be a total disaster.

Like him or not Dana White is the modern day Vince McMahon. He knows what works in this business and what doesn't work and he knows how to bury his opponents. Within 3 years the MMA landscape will be his much like the pro wrestling landscape belongs to the WWE. If you are a fighter who wants to make good money (no matter what chronic cry baby Tito Ortiz says), fight the best competition in the world, and get well known you will fight in the UFC. Otherwise, have fun in the bush leagues.

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Ugh

Brock Lesnar counts as talent? You really are a wrestling fan! :-P

But I agree with most of what you’re saying: I don’t see the Affliction show doing well, and Saturday night is not a big night for television, and MMA takes time to appreciate. This might in fact be the best possible solution for the UFC: EliteXC does the ground-breaking, initiates a bunch of people into MMA, and when the ratings eventually drive them off TV, the UFC gets a contract with another network.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.

by jemaleddin on May 30, 2008 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A mention of YAMMA would have been the cherry on top of this delicious fanpost.

by Nick Thomas on May 30, 2008 10:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do we really ever need to mention YAMMA again?

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.

by jemaleddin on May 30, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not? I like to laugh as much as the next guy.

by Brett Jones on May 30, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes...

YAMMA was the greatest show ever…

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

"The reason a lot of people do not recognize opportunity is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and looking like hard work." -- Thomas Edison

by Brent Brookhouse on May 30, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You people are sick. SICK, I say. I’d challenge you to fight over it, but you’d probably want to do it in a caged bowl or something.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.

by jemaleddin on May 30, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right...

...if we’re going to fight it’ll be in the YAMMA Pit.

I’m pretty sure they’re selling it on craigslist for $10.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

"The reason a lot of people do not recognize opportunity is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and looking like hard work." -- Thomas Edison

by Brent Brookhouse on May 30, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I’m warning you, I don’t train so I’ll probably go to the mat pretty quick, bloodied and semi-conscious, but I cry REALLY loud, so you might just want to step off, pally! :-)

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.

by jemaleddin on May 30, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, totally forgot about Yamma. It was such a joke it doesn’t even deserve to ever be mentioned ago. That cage bowl was beyond stupid. Also, the IFL is another organization added a new twist to the mma ring/cage…..a six sided ring.

by Jerret Anderson on May 30, 2008 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any time your great idea is stolen from Chuck Norris, it’d better be a roundhouse kick to somebody’s face.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.

by jemaleddin on May 30, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EXC = WCW?

Doesn’t that mean that for a while they’re gonna start pulling better numbers than the UFC, which will cause the UFC to change its style up and evolve to beat Elite?

Sounds pretty awesome to me. Competition rules.

by asa on May 30, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No...

I’d say that honestly the more appropriate comparison (warning…wrestling nerd speak coming)

Is that the UFC is the early 80’s NWA (Jim Crockett Promotions, Florida Championship Wrestling…whatever you’d prefer) generally referred to as the class of the “sport” while also containing all of the best workers available. EXC is the WWF at the same time…they know they can’t compete on the same level of “athletic competition” so they are taking the flashy route. Using rappers, dancing girls…whereas the WWF embraced bigger personalities rather than great workers which eventually led to their rise.

Now I obviously don’t think that EXC is going to completely flip things like the WWF did back in the mid to late 80’s when Hogan took them to the top and they became the national promotion compared to all the territories. But that is the route they’re taking. They don’t have fighters that are as good…so they’re adding flash to try to steal the fans.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

"The reason a lot of people do not recognize opportunity is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and looking like hard work." -- Thomas Edison

by Brent Brookhouse on May 30, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

Makes sense, especially considering Vince buying out some smaller promotions too.

My question is, when do we get an ECW? Then we get Paul E. vs Dana. Affliction, maybe?

by asa on May 31, 2008 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one thing I’d disagree with is the idea that Lawler can’t currently hang in the UFC. Otherwise, great post.

by Richard Wade on May 30, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

I don’t think he’d be at the top of the division. But I certainly think he can hang in the top 10 of the UFC in the division.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

"The reason a lot of people do not recognize opportunity is because it usually goes around wearing overalls and looking like hard work." -- Thomas Edison

by Brent Brookhouse on May 30, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a pretty interesting comparison. It’s kind of scary, actually. I was a wrestling fan as a kid, but now I prefer sporting events that are less hyped up drama and more sports competitions. Pro wrestling popularity, in my opinion, is more cyclical than sports like the NBA or NFL. I think MMA has to be careful about getting too fictionalized with their pre-event promotions. These little dramas may eventually wear thin with fans especially when they’re obviously overblown.

by Cannon Jacques on May 31, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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