UFC 87: Heath Herring vs. Brock Lesnar
by Nick Thomas on May 24, 2008 8:53 AM EDT
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PrintHeath Herring has agreed to fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 87 on Aug. 9 when the Ultimate Fighting Championship makes its debut in Minneapolis, Minn.Heath is a better opponent than Coleman, but Herring/Lesnar is going to look alot like Herring/O'Brien only with Herring being punched in the face more.
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Ah, Silent updates...
I love feed aggregators: I get to see what people posted before they had second thoughts. In the age of “every update is recorded, it’s a good idea to just add in an “update” if you want to change what you said, because this:
Heath is a better opponent than Coleman… should be a great fight.
Is very different than this:
Heath is a better opponent than Coleman, but Herring/Lesnar is going to look alot like Herring/O’Brien only with Herring being punched in the face more.
I could respond to what’s up there now, but I like what you wrote the first time. So, yes it will be a great fight – if by great fight you mean Lesnar getting exposed as an HGH abuser with no technique relying on pharmaceuticals to get him through – again. :-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
Exactly...
his wrestling technique is more than a little good. I’d also like people to compare WWE Lesnar with MMA Lesnar if they still think he is “on the juice” he’s always been a huge man, in the WWE he was gigantic, now in the UFC he is noticeably differently built. He doesn’t exactly have a body that screams “on the juice” to me.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 24, 2008 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I am an admitted detractor of Lesnar’s (pre-Mir). I think Brock showed a lot of real potential in that fight. Frank looked like he was attacked by a grizzly bear afterward.
I still want to see Coleman in the cage at least one last time, but I think I prefer the new opponent in all honesty. I don’t there Herring will will follow the same lousy gameplan he did against Jake O’Brien. And if he does, Lesnar (unlike Jake) will make him pay for it with a solid beating. Herring’s attitude and training regimen seem to both improved considerably since the Nogueira loss. Long story short—I like this match.
I just noticed how incoherently the second graph of my post reads.
*I don’t think Herring will follow the same lousy gameplan he did against O’Brien. And if he does, Lesnar will make him pay for it with a solid beating. Herring’s attitude and training regimen seem to have both improved considerably since the Nogueira loss.
OK, now that that’s fixed, I think this will be a tough fight for both Herring and Lesnar. I would not be surprised if either of them pulled off the win.
Hmmm...
The O’brien comparison has me contemplating my knee-jerk reaction that Brock will soon be 0-2 in theUFC.
Unfortunately, Brock has only shown me the ability to take an opponent down. I have seen no sub attempts and no power punching. His short, uncontrolled strikes will not stop Double H (I’m making it stick!). Unless Brock has greatly expanded his arsenal, I don’t see this going his way.
I say either a LnP decision for Brock, or a 2nd rd sub for Double H.
Make mine the latter.
"They said you was hung!!"
"And they was RIGHT!"
Guys….Kongo was able to take Herring down at will. Lesnar is roughly 10000000x the wrestler Kongo is and has a background that will allow for more control from the top than Cheick was ever able to muster. Always remember, Heath is Mr. Shitty Gameplan. I’m thinking this is actually a very good matchup for Brock.
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by Brent Brookhouse on May 24, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
Will look like O'Brien/Herring
Uhhh… Is that a problem? I find watching Herring getting his face beat in to be very entertaining most of the time.
Herring is still dangerous too, he hits really hard. So there is a solid possibility that he could KO Brock. However, there are a ton of guys like him in the UFC whom Brock would match up really well with.
PREDICTION: HEATH WINS 2nd ROUND
I find it funny that people thought Heath was the underdod against Kongo. Granted Kongo looks good while posing for the camera, but his skillset is not where it could be – even should be. I think Kongo needs another 10 real fights to become more well rounded as Heath is. Anybody can throw a punch now a days, but it takes experience to know how a beat a guy in MMA. Now this fight coming up with Lesnar.
If you just take into account the fight history both men have and compare their win lose records – well, come on now….
by steve@heath-herring.com on May 26, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
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