What Does Resurrection Mean for EliteXC?

by Michael Rome on Dec 10, 2008 8:55 AM EST in News Comment 91 comments

Everyone by now has heard rumors that there are multiple suitors to "resurrect" Pro Elite. Mark Ecko's name has been thrown around as a possibility, and Trebilcock has put together a few investors but not much cash in a bid to buy the company.

There are two major obstacles in any resurrection, those being debt and fighters. The KOTC people obviously want EliteXC, not Pro Elite, but the shareholders of Pro Elite are going to want a lot for it, considering the fact that they have nothing else of value, and have a mountain of debt to pay off.

So why hasn't Zuffa jumped into the mix to buy the company? CBS has waived its contractual opportunity to buy it first, the company is in bad financial straits. Zuffa is not interested because the fighter contracts are non-transferrable. Much like Pride, where the UFC could only make fighters that didn't sign with them sit out, that is the situation here as well. If Mark Ecko or anyone else buys EliteXC, they will not get the roster of fighters with it. They will have to sign all new contracts, and the most they can do to fighters that don't sign is make them sit out for a little while. If King of The Cage buys it, they may have a loophole to bring fighters over because KOTC is under the Pro Elite umbrella. Of course, this is just a small hurdle.

The crazy thing here is that all of this is in California, a state with courts that are notoriously pro-worker mobility. It's hard for me to imagine a judge in California holding that these fighters simply have to sit and wait forever for possible deals. The fighters need to come together and file a suit for declaratory relief on their contracts.

In the end, the situation is dire for anyone who takes EliteXC over with the hope of getting back on CBS. To get back on CBS they'll probably need to re-sign Kimbo and Gina, who will come at much higher prices this time, the latter in particular. They'll need to convince CBS executives that this go-around won't be a disgrace like the last. Last but not least, they'll have to run an expensive company in a tight credit market where CBS is offering next to nothing because the networks are going through a financial storm. Everyone's seen the news about NBC cutting back programming. No MMA company is going to get some amazing amount of money to run shows.

Perhaps the better model is a monthly Showtime show with 2 or 3 PPV shows a year. They need to make money somehow, and the 4 shows a year model just doesn't lend itself to PPV success, especially considering the ratings they have to pull just to stay on CBS.

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The KOTC people obviously want EliteXC, not Pro Elite, but the shareholders of Pro Elite are going to want a lot for it, considering the fact that

I don’t think it should end there.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 9, 2008 4:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Unless it is “considering that fact”.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 9, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But, regardless, keep up the good work.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 9, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks for the catch. Somehow putting in the image deleted some of the text.

by Michael Rome on Dec 9, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rome

The if the deal is made, it will come with the fighter contracts and the tv deals.
That is the only way ProElite will be bought.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/12/4/681858/proelite-elitexc-to-rise-f

There are rumors circulating that KOTC owner Terry Trebilcock and a yet-to-be-named partner are no more than a week away from completing a deal to purchase EliteXC and it’s remaining assets. Some experienced names in MMA are said to be involved (thankfully, not the Shaws), and the word is that there will be a special press conference held after the sale is complete.

The big get here would be the TV contracts with CBS and Showtime as well the fighter’s contracts, which the legal team are working on transferring right now.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

There may be loopholes here for KOTC.

Since they are a part of ProElite already, the contracts wont have to be transferred, and KOTC and Terry Trebilcock will take ownership. That is one scenario I have heard.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You realize the legal team for the buyers wants to transfer them. The legal representation for the fighters will say they can’t be transferred. This is going to be prolonged litigation.

by Michael Rome on Dec 9, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Also, Ecko is not in the mix according to MMAFighting.com

http://mmafighting.com/news/2008/12/08/mark-ecko-enterprises-not-talks-buy-elitexc

“Marc Ecko Enterprises is not bidding on ProElite, and has not entered into any talks to acquire the company,” Laurie Baker, VP of Communications for MEE, told MMAFighting.com on Monday.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I was quietly laughing while you were raving and ranting about this nonsense for the past couple of days…

Your “sources” (rather the websites you visit) don’t know shit.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

My sources said Ecko May be the high bidder and my assumption was that KOTC would be the front runner at the end. Many other websites reported this as well.

It looks like you need some reading comprehension.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I am sensing some more hate from you.

I guess my sources were wrong that KOTC was planning on reviving ProElite and that HDNet was going to sign a deal with FEG and K-1 for 2009, since I broke the news before anyone else.

Keep hating, though. I appreciate it.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So you broke the story that KOTC was planning on reviving proelite?

Stop embarrassing yourself.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Notice how you left out HDNet story I broke. It is okay.

This is what I reported and look at the date:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/12/4/681858/proelite-elitexc-to-rise-f

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

copying and pasting is not “breaking a story”

please again stop embarrassing yourself.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

What happened to my post where I called this guy on his shit? A bunch of posts seem to be missing.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

mmalogic started cursing all over, so, they got deleted most likely.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My sources were not copied and pasted.
I copied and pasted the releases after the fact.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

YOu made your post on the 4th. The 5oz story was on the 2nd. WHat you posted was nothing more than a fairly obvious inference based on the information already supplied by 5oz. It was not a breaking news story.

What you are doing is reading information from here and other places and trying to pass it off as a story you “broke.” If you had your own exclusive stories to break you would be running your own web site or publication. You do not. You are posting on the comments section of a web site run by everyone else. Passing off information from somewhere else and saying it is yours is plagiarism. Making a guess at something that seems obvious based on the information available is called an “inference” – you are inferring what is going to happen, not breaking news. Cut it out. It is both ridiculous and annoying.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was referring to the HDNet story when I said look at the release date.

That story was obviously broken first by Sam Caplan, and I followed up on who this mystery high bidder was according to my sources and who would most likely buy them out, which is KOTC from what I hear. They are the most realistic at the moment.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And here’s my point: that is NOT from what you are “hearing” from your source. That is based on the fact that KOTC is another MMA company and a subsidiary of ProElite, thus making them likely to be the purchasers. The article from Caplan states that KOTC is in the running so all you’re doing is saying that they are the frontrunners based on no real facts but just what you are guessing based on what we have available. You do not have “sources.” Cut it out.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Says, you. I am just letting you guys know what I know and have heard, not what I SPECULATE, which is what most people do around here.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Says me. I guarantee it with 100% certainty that there is no “source.”

Caplan wrote an article about potential buyers from EliteXC. He mentioned the KOTC owner as one of them. And you’re saying your “sources” tell you that KOTC is the frontrunner. That is in no way breaking any news. If KOTC were to buy them out, you say your sources were right. If not, you say at the last minute someone else had a better offer. Now you tell me – in what way is what you’re saying breaking some news or supplying anything a valuable source might divulge to someone in the MMA community?

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Again, my breaking news comment was about HDNet.
What my sources told me was that KOTC deal is done and they are just dotting the Ts and Is. They also suggested that Ecko was the mystery high bidder. All that information was after Caplans article. His article is what got me wondering and I give him all the credit for that report.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

first of all you’re giving him too much credit assuming he can actually make a common sense inference…

Not only is he copying and pasting from other sites…

what you think are his inferences are in actuality user posts from other sites.

His commentary is even copied! There is a forum post on the underground where he copied his supposed “inference”.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 7:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Anybody can go to FightOpinion.com and see the top 3 threads from all the major and alot of the minor mma websites. i see alot of fans say they have sources or are breaking news and then post something i already knew about a day earlier. i hate those guys. i’m not talking about mmasupremacy in particular, just these fans who are “wannabe insiders”. most mma websites just copy of each other anyway. at least BE has the balls to give props to other sites who do break stories and not try and pass thyem off as their own.

by bdw on Dec 10, 2008 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also...

My Post:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/11/20/666673/big-news-ahead-from-hdnet

Date 11/20/2008 4:51 PM

Press Release from HDNet:

DALLAS (November 21, 2008) – HDNet Fights announced today that it is partnering with FEG USA, Inc. to bring the extremely popular K-1 World Grand Prix and K-1 World MAX tournaments to HDNet. K-1 is an electrifying form of kickboxing that combines techniques from various martial arts disciplines. HDNet will be the exclusive home of K-1 in North America.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The fact that KOTC is part of Pro Elite is a possible loophole, but again, in the legal world when someone finds a loophole, it becomes a fight. It isn’t like the other side just shrugs and congratulates the other side on finding it.

And again, 2 million worth from investors from KOTC. They will lose way more than that running their first show. How will they ever make any money? They need a completely different model, not a takeover of the old model.

by Michael Rome on Dec 9, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ken Pavia stated below that the fighters under ProElite would stay there to fight next year.
Also, KOTC will change the model, but the TV contracts are a key part of what they want to do.

There are obviously a whole bunch of questions up in the air, but Terry Trebilcock has never had a problem making money and expanding his KOTC organization.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, running small time in the UK. This isn’t even comparable.

by Michael Rome on Dec 9, 2008 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, if Terry Trebilcock takes over, I consider him more able than any other of the people out there trying to start a new org. Being around for more than a decade in MMA, essentially since the beginning of North American MMA is quite an accomplishment.

He has also expanded his KOTC brand to Canada, Australia, and Singapore.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

Trebilcock is no Jeremy Lappen.

by tylerdurden1 on Dec 9, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ken Pavia Also Stated This:

During a recent appearance on TAGG Radio (www.taggradio.com), the official radio partner of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), agent Ken Pavia said he’s learned that there are "three legitimate bids for ProElite," and that the next iteration of the promotion would begin staging fights in the first quarter of 2009. Those bouts would be made with many of the 80 fighters still under ProElite contracts.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Many of the fighters because some of them would escape the contract bullshit and sign elsewhere – meaning with Zuffa. A reinvigorated EliteXC with a TV deal would still be the number two promotion in the country meaning staying under the EliteXC banner would still be the best bet for most of the fighters. A select few of the top fighters – Lawler, Shields, Carano – and potentially some of the better prospects -Rogers, Herman, Hamman – would invite heavy UFC interest but that’s about it.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ofcourse pavia is going to say that…

Nobody wants “many of the 80 fighters” that elite had.

There are less than 6 fighters who would get immediate employment once released… do some fuckin math.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You have got to be joking.

If you think that EliteXC doesn’t have talented fighters that other orgs are coveting than you don’t know what you are talking about.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 5:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dude you’re not getting it. It’s not that no one wants them – just no one relevant, meaning the UFC.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

UFC Wants:

Eddie Alvarez, Rafael Feijao, Dave Herman, Hector Lombard, Mahmed Khalidov, Jake Shields, Robbie Lawler, Nick Diaz, Gina Carano (WEC), Wilson Reis (WEC).

Do you think that the UFC doesn’t want those fighters?
I got news for you guys, they do, plus a few more.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

YOU ARE STILL NOT GETTING IT.

Of course the UFC wants fighters like that. I don’t need “inside sources” to tell me that the fighters you listed are viable assets to any organization, including the UFC. The point here is that in comparison to the entire EliteXC roster, only a negligible amount of names are going to be sought after by the UFC.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What point are you making here? That would be the case for any org. Same thing when the UFC purchased PRIDE. Only a negligible amount of names were signed and sought after by the UFC.

I was replying to mmalogic’s quote of:

Nobody wants "many of the 80 fighters" that elite had.

There are less than 6 fighters who would get immediate employment once released… do some fuckin math.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

His point is you are making it seem like ProElite has 80 valuable contracts. Dropkick and mmalogic are arguing (correctly) that only a handful of those contracts are actually valuable assets on the open market.

ProElite’s best draws are going to try and bail because they can get better deals elsewhere. The guys who will stay are journeymen and mid tier fighters who don’t aren’t in demand on the open market.

by Andy R on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree. If you have CBS/Showtime as part of your company, I don’t believe only journeymen and mid tier fighters will stay.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agree to disagree then.

I doubt fighters with serious potential would want to stick around in an organization which is heavily in debt and ran itself into the ground once already. I’m too lazy to link it, but there was a big article by Michael Rome on here a few days ago speaking on how the CBS deal was actually crappy for EliteXC. It seems better for proven fighters like Carano or Alvarez to go somewhere more stable. Just my two cents.

by Andy R on Dec 9, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, that deal was TERRIBLE for EliteXC.
But, they were desperate and had no choice at the time.

They wanted to be the first on a major network, thought it could make stars, sell it on PPV and make money, but that didn’t happen. Not that easy.

My assumptions are that the new group that would take over would obviously NOT commit the same mistakes as the OLD EliteXC regime.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyways, you could be right, it is all speculation, but we don’t even know if they have the opportunity to break away from their contracts in the first place.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Math lesson:

10 + a few more – 80 = “many of the 80 fighters will stay”.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There are less than 6 fighters who would get immediate employment once released… do some fuckin math.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Trivial. Irrelevant. Menial.

Again, the point is that only a handful of fighters in comparison to the entire roster are going to drive interest.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not trivial. It was a BS statement.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He said six and you named ten, that it on the trivial side when you are talking about 80 fighters looking for work.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There are more. I would say 15-20 fighters easy.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There are more? You would have no way of knowing that even if it were true. EVery fighter on the roster is going to be sought after by somebody, the question here is whether they will be sought after by somebody giving them a better deal in terms of guaranteed fight pay and exposure than EliteXC can. For most, the answer is in the negative.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That still is just a small part of the 80 fighters they had under contract, not to mention that we are just speculating on who might have outside interest from other companies at this point.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Like I said, only a handful of PRIDE fighters came over to the UFC after they were bought over and they were considered to be the UFC’s equal if not superior, so that point is moot.

I was calling out the BS statement that 6 or less fighters would get immediate employment by mmalogic. That is a BS statement. Through Bellator, Sengoku, Dream, Affliction, and the UFC, a good amount of fighters would be signed and I believe 10-20 would be persued by Zuffa alone.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL Zuffa wouldnt sign more than 6 I didnt want to debate your list of 10 because it still made my point.

Half the time I dont know if you actually believe what you say or just trolling.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 7:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder the same about you, and your negativity towards peoples opinions.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Demonstrably false assertions aren’t opinions.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 9, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Which is why they are labeled as rumors, if it is in fact a rumor.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so first they are “breaking stories”, now they are “rumors”

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Read the title of my posts and it says on there. HDNet story was not a rumor, KOTC already dotting the i’s and t’s I labeled a Strong Rumor.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The UFC might give 20 or so of them a undercard tryout fight on a show but even that is pure speculation. The ten guys you said the UFC wants includes guys that they will never sign and that they haven’t shown any interest in, it is all speculation.

Of course your point also goes to the fact that there are several ProElite fighters who are looking for (or already found) greener pastures which shows there is a real chance those guys may fight any contract transfers.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True, but having CBS as an asset is something fighters wouldn’t mind. There was an article saying how much money the fighters on CBS were getting from sponsors because of the national spotlight.

I mentioned fighters like Lombard and Khalidov because the UFC already persued those fighters but they chose to sign with EliteXC due to their tight contracts.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Common sense:

Zuffa is releasing guys who are better than the best guys on elite xc’s roster…

and you think they are gonna go after 20 of those???

I bet the new elite will not even sign/try to transfer those 80 fighters.

by mmalogic on Dec 9, 2008 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yup. Zuffa’s motto.

Release expensive contracts and sign cheap ones.

You are forgetting to mention they are releasing guys who get paid more than the ones they are signing.

They just signed John “Doomsday” Howard, Rony Torres, and a few more.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What an odd motto. Try to pay less and make more. Why hasn’t anyone else thought of that?

by Michael Rome on Dec 9, 2008 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Never said it was bad for business, just pointing it out.

Zuffa is also in a position to do that.
Affliction obviously didnt like that motto.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Affliction’s motto is apparently ’We are crazy enough to pay Tim Sylvia $800,000 for one fight".

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t forget Lindland.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Talk is that Lombard is already attached to Bellator (as are Alvarez and Wilson Reis).

As far as the CBS deal goes, there was only one fight left on that contract and without Kimbo and Carano and great ratings that would probably be the end of that. It also does nothing for the vast majority of EliteXC fighters that haven’t fought on CBS and most likely wouldn’t in the future.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Attached, meaning in the tournament, but if EliteXC comes back, they will need their approval.

Alvarez is also in DREAM and other orgs, so, that really doesn’ say much since people are signing non-exclusive contracts.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

One would think they would of needed ProElite approval to even sign those contracts. Of course Alvarez primary contract was through adrenaline not proelite so it’s quite possible he is already clear to fly the EliteXC coop. Open contracts don’t mean that these guys can do whatever they want it means that EliteXC is open to them fighting other places as long as it is ok’d first.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly, so there is no REAL information that fighters have left EliteXC, or whether they are still under their contracts just because they are fighting in other orgs.
Who is to say they didn’t get ProElites approval to fight in Bellator or anywhere else.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep the whole conversation from both sides is just speculation at this point.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes. All I know is that if ProElite is going to be purchased, the buyers better be making sure that the TV Deals are in place and the contracts will be kept.

Those are the two key points driving this whole deal.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, hard to comment on Carano and Kimbo since no one knows anything yet, from what I heard, Carano and Cyborg will take place on CBS for the new EliteXC.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, but there were also serious issues with the fighter contracts if I recall correctly. I believe Zuffa was under the impression when they bought Pride all the contracts came with it. It turned out that there was some sort of exclusivity clause or something that made the contracts non-transferable (if anyone remembers the exact details please correct me). You’re comparing apples and oranges here.

by Andy R on Dec 9, 2008 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The issue is not the contracts, but who Zuffa was going after, and who they offered contracts to. It was only a handful of PRIDE fighters. That was the only thing I was pointing out. Even if the contracts were transferable, with Zuffas model, they would have cut most fighters.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Once again that is just speculation about what they were planning. If the contracts were transferable they wouldn’t of had to sign any of those guys and Fedor would of already been in the UFC, I also doubt White would of announced that they got all off them either.

by who me on Dec 9, 2008 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My sources tell me that the winner of the Rampage/Wanderlei fight may be in line for a title shot.

My sources tell me that Chuck Liddell may soon fight Shogun Rua or the winner of the Franklin/Henderson fight.

My sources tell me that tomorrow I will eat a turkey sandwich for lunch, with extra mayo because, boy, do I love mayo.

My sources are the voices in my head.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Good for you.
You have many “sources”.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 9, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not Sure who MMASuPreMaCy is?

I have no idea who MMASuPreMaCy but I can tell you he has a good pulse of what is going on. Next week should shed some more light on the future of KOTC.

by Pitman on Dec 13, 2008 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rome’s right.

You can not legally transfer contracts for personal services. They can stop the fighters from plying their trade anywhere else for the remained of their contract duration but that’s about it. And I think that could be fought against. The only incentive a fighter would have to transfer his contract is if it is for a prolonged period (6 months+) and he doesn’t want to sit out or invest money into legal fees to fight it. Either way, the contracts can not be directly transferred to force the fighters into the cage.

by dropkick101 on Dec 9, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks Michael

For providing an informative article that provides some perspective with all the crazy talk that’s been going on about ProElite being bought and/or moving forward as a viable MMA organization.

by LiuLang on Dec 9, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs