Bloody Elbow November MMA Meta-Rankings: Middleweight
| Fighter | Points | Promotion | Last Rank |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1. Anderson Silva | 625 | UFC | 1 |
| 2. Dan Henderson | 535 | UFC | 5 |
| 3.Yushin Okami | 522 | UFC | 3 |
| 4. Robbie Lawler | 513 | Elite XC |
4 |
| 5. Nathan Marquardt | 486 | UFC | 6 |
| 6. Gegard Mousasi | 456 | DREAM | 7 |
| 7. Paulo Filho | 378 | ??? | 2 |
| 8. Rich Franklin | 352 | UFC | 8 |
| 9. Matt Lindland | 333 | Affliction | 9 |
| 10. Kazuo Misaki | 283 | WVR/Strikeforce | 10 |
| 11.Yoshihiro Akiyama | 234 | ??? | 12 |
| 12. Frank Trigg | 224 | WVR/Strikeforce | 11 |
| 13. Demian Maia | 222 | UFC | 16 |
| 14. Thales Leites | 218 | UFC | 13 |
| 15. Chael Sonnen | 209 | WEC/UFC | 23 |
| 16. Michael Bisping | 199 | UFC | 15 |
| 17. Jorge Santiago | 176 | WVR/Strikeforce | 18 |
| 18. Patrick Cote | 153 | UFC | 14 |
| 19. Ronaldo Souza | 144 | DREAM | 17 |
| 20. Martin Kampmann | 101 | UFC | 20 |
| 21. Jason Miller | 90 | DREAM | 18 |
| 22. Cung Le | 88 |
Strikeforce |
21 |
| 23. Denis Kang | 86 | UFC |
22 |
| 24. Jason MacDonald | 82 | UFC | 23 |
| 25. Dan Miller | 80 | UFC | NR |
Once again, apologies for the delay on this. Moving and holidays ruined my November.
The biggest change to the middleweight meta-rankings in November was the overdue fall of #7 Paulo Filho. His mind-bogglingly bad performance at his last WEC fight sent him plummeting from #2. I expect him to do a Ricardo Arona and slowly fade in the rankings as people realize he's not going to be fighting anywhere again soon.
#2 Dan Henderson seems to owe his rise from #5 to people's needs to have a well-known fighter at the second spot. Henderson will be taking on #8 Rich Franklin at UFC 93 in a 205lb match. The UFC's decision to push Franklin into the Light Heavyweight division seems stranger by the day as rumors mount daily of Anderson Silva's imminent retirement and/or a series of interdivisional superfights against GSP, Chuck Liddell and who knows who. If Franklin beats Henderson and Silva leaves the division, I expect to see Rich cut back down to 185 to reclaim his belt.
#3 Yushin Okami is still suffering from his low-profile, no thanks to the UFC who are relegating his upcoming bout with #36 Dean Lister to the undercard. I really wonder if Okami will ever get his title shot. #5 Nathan Marquardt continues to rise off the impact of crushing #20 Martin Kampmann at UFC 88. Kampmann remains ranked at middleweight by some although he's moving down to welterweight at UFC 93.
The UFC's BJJ standout #13 Demian Maia continues to rise, I expect to see him in contention through 2009 and maybe fight for the title in 2010. Maia's rise has the UFC's other BJJ ace, #14 Thales Leites calling him out. Now that's a fight I'd like to see. Leites is already feeling slighted by the surge in Nate Marquardt's stock, owning as he does a victory over "the Great", however tainted.
The rest of the UFC's pool in this division features three fighters on the rise -- #16 Michael Bisping (who will be rushed into title contention), #23 Denis Kang (who will debut against Alan Belcher at UFC 93), and #25 Dan Miller. #18 Patrick Cote is injured and out of favor with the fans after his weak title challenge and journeyman #24 Jason MacDonald will be gatekeeping against former light heavyweight Wilson Gouveia at the TUF 8 finale.
On the DREAM side of things, #6 Gegard Mousasi will be fighting on New Year's Eve at K-1, but alas, not in an MMA match. Maybe I'm too anal retentive, but I hate to see a top contender wasting his time screwing around in goofy matches. I really don't think the Japanese take MMA seriously as a sport, but thank goodness they excel at making it a wonderful spectacle.
#9 Matt Lindland will be fighting #27 Vitor Belfort at the January 24 Affliction show, if that fight card is actually held. I'm certainly crossing my fingers that those idiots can pull off one more card even if the arena is empty, I'll be watching. And Lindland vs Belfort is a relevant matchup I'll be eager to see. I don't think Lindland has the power edge over Belfort that his buddy Randy Couture enjoyed so it should be an entertaining match.
Rumors continue to swirl that Strikeforce is in discussions with NBC to air live fights in primetime -- and now they're rumored to be in talks with CBS as well. Either way, surely a network TV opportunity could bring #22 Cung Le out of his Hollywood career long enough for a return match or two. Maybe even against #17 Jorge Santiago or #10 Kazuo Misaki.
Richard has added some very cool charts. that can be found in the full entry. Thanks Richard!
NOTE: The Meta-Rankings are not the subjective opinion of the BloodyElbow team, but rather a compilation of the rankings of over twenty leading MMA web sites. It is our opinion that these are the most informative MMA rankings anywhere.
Based on the premise that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink. instead of putting up our own subjective fighter rankings, we compile and average the rankings of every source we could find online.
The goal is to show how the MMA community rates the fighters, not to bore you with our opinions.
Be sure and look at the points, they're a much more telling number than the ranking. There's clearly a huge gulf between the top 9 fighters and those that follow.
A total of 45 fighters were ranked in the top 25 by one source or another, for reasons of sanity I only track the top 25 (26 due to a tie) most highly rated fighters.
25 points are awarded for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. Fuller explanation below.
Rankings were compiled from the following sites: MMA Weekly, Sherdog, HDNet/Inside MMA, Total MMA, Fight Magazine, 411 Mania, CagePotato, TAGG Radio, FCFighter, MMA ELO, Five Ounces of Pain, FightMatrix, MMA Playground, MMA News, Inside Fighting, MMA on Tap, MMA Torch, MMA Blogger, MMA 4 Real, MMA EQ, WAMMA, MMA Ratings, MMA/VT (Japan), MMA Fighting and Houston Chronicle Brawl Sports.
The normalization scheme as explained by JCS of FightMatrix is here:
The "normalization number" (new name) would be:
120
divided by
(Total Fighters Found in Any List minus 10)Every fighter found somewhere else, but on a Top 10 list would be assigned this number.
The "normalization" number would not apply to a fighter not found on a Top 25 list. They would simply get 0.
So the process would be:
Do all of the Top 25 lists first, #1 = 25, #2 = 24…. #24 = 2, #25 = 1
Do all of the Top 10 lists, same scoring structure.. stops at #10 = 16Figure out that normalization variable.
Fill in the normalization variable to all fighters not found in the Top 10 lists, but found elsewhere.
Do your totals and rank.
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AWESOME!!
Haven’t even checked out the rankings yet- just excited that you were able to get them out. I wasn’t sure if you would get out the rest for. Will you still be able to get HW and LHW out soon or will you wait until the end of the month?
Just want to show my appreciation from a certified rating junkie!
by flassasin24 on Dec 9, 2008 10:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Kid Nate on Dec 9, 2008 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey no apologies!!
Last time I checked, you weren’t running my credit card for these rankings- keep up the great work!
by flassasin24 on Dec 9, 2008 10:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t think the Japanese take MMA seriously as a sport, but thank goodness they excel at making it a wonderful spectacle.
It’s a shame, but also true. Of course, I’m not convinced Americans take it seriously as a sport either.
by FRANKIE on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Woot for meta-rankings!
I predict Anderson Silva vs. Yushin Okami as next MW title fight if Okami wins. A. Silva will kill him as retribution for the DQ loss and to prove that the Cote fight was him goofing off.
by Sokonojudo on Dec 9, 2008 10:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think so. They’re burying the Okami fight on the undercard and if you recall they just fired WEC’s matchmaker for burying the Cowboy Cerrone fight on the undercard when it was a #1 contenders match.
by Kid Nate on Dec 9, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IF Okami wins he’ll be 7-1 in the UFC with his only loss against Franklin. A. Silva wants this fight. That DQ Loss was his last loss and he wants to prove that Okami is nowhere near him. Of course the UFC probably won’t let it happen b/c of the $ from ppvs. There is no one left for him to fight at MW. Bisping, Maia, Hendo #2
by Sokonojudo on Dec 9, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree that the match should happen, I just don’t see any indicators that it will happen soon.
by Kid Nate on Dec 9, 2008 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Think we’re going to see some sort of “superfight” for Anderson’s next match, rather than a 185lb title fight.
Probably put him in there against a top 10-15 LHW and hype him to the sky.
by Frank_Castle on Dec 9, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Nate
Is that the largest point gap between 1 and 2 out of all the weight classes?
by subo on Dec 9, 2008 10:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes.
There’s just no clear #2 in this division.
by Kid Nate on Dec 9, 2008 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say, that i would pick Marquardt as the #2. He has just turned into a monster since losing to Silva. I really hope to see him coaching TUF9 and then beating Bisping for another title shot.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Dec 9, 2008 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nate’s looking great, he he, but I think he’s at least one or two big wins away from being seen as someone who merits a rematch. Now if he destroys someone really badass like Hendo, Maia, or Okami like he did Kampmann, then we’ll have something.
by Kid Nate on Dec 9, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol, nice one!
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Dec 9, 2008 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Franklin is clearly number 2 and we will know for sure at UFC 94.
by Dropkick434 on Dec 9, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LHW
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Dec 9, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AND...
Thanks as always for everyone that put the work into compiling these and then explaining them over and over, lol!! Great work.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Dec 9, 2008 11:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe Kang is so low. Last year he was a top 10 MW.
by Discman2 on Dec 9, 2008 11:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Last year he was a overrated top 10 MW.
Fixed it for you, lol.
Seriously, he earned a high ranking, then lost it, imo, but still managed to stay highly ranked somehow. I like Kang, and I think one big win in the UFC will propel him back up.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Dec 9, 2008 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He went 1-3 between November 2006 and April 2008. Sure his losses were to Misaki, Akiyama and Mousasi but still not good.
His quick win over Terry Martin and signing to the UFC have people looking favorably on him, but frankly he was long the most overrated fighter in MMA. Largely, IMO, because people hate Akiyama so much they didn’t want to penalize Kang for losing to him.
by Kid Nate on Dec 9, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is pure laziness on my part, but here it goes anyway.
On the left hand side of the bloody elbow main page there’s a “sections” area that has 2 sections news and events.
I would love you all long time if you added a third section for metarankings and fightlines. It would just make it easier than having to type it into the search when I want to find them.
by Phildo on Dec 9, 2008 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s a tradition: LAWLER? ROBBIE LAWLER?! #4? What are they thinking?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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