Badr Hari Disqualified for Unsportsmanlike Conduct
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 7, 2008 2:31 AM EST
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This is an excerpt from the results of the K-1 2008 World Grand Prix Final between Badr Hari and Remy Bonjasky:
In the second, Hari, aware he was down on all three cards, came out like a loaded gun. Bonjasky answered a body blow with a low kick, and Hari replied with another body blow. The give-and-take repeated several times, both fighters putting their all behind the strikes. After delivering a big right, Hari had Bonjasky on the run. But then things went wrong.
After Bonjasky had countered with a middle kick, Hari grabbed the his opponent's leg and threw him to the mat. That's the sort of marginal foul a fighter can get away with most of the time, but Hari wasn't done. His fighting spirit hijacked by rage, Hari then approached his downed opponent to pound down a couple of punches. He'd crossed the line, but incredibly he wasn't finished. Even as veteran referee Nobuaki Kakuda tried to wrest him away, Hari persisted, stomping a heel onto Bonjasky's head.
The crowd was stunned into silence.
Bad boy Hari was forcibly coaxed to a neutral corner as Bonjasky lay motionless on the mat. Hari was assessed a yellow card and a one-point penalty, and the ringside doctor came in to have a look at Bonjasky. After the five-minute recovery interval elapsed, the doctor reported Bonjasky was still seeing double and could not continue. A furious Kakuda then showed Hari a red card and declared him disqualified for unsportsmanlike conduct. Bonjasky had the win.
I saw a replay of this match and wow.... it leads me to ask, what if a UFC fighter did this? What would the consequences be for such a showing of unsportsman like conduct?
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LOL...
I think Hari would have broken his heel…. Kimbo’s got an epic cranium… that thing could smash atoms.
Babalu choked a guy well beyond a) him tapping and b) the ref telling him to get the fuck off of him. That’s the closest thing I can think of to this, and Sobral was summarily fired soon after. It’s not hockey players using their sticks for assault – I don’t want to see assault charges. Unfortuately, Hari’s so fucking good, this will only draw more eyes for the rematch.
Funny thing...
This was the 3rd time in less than a year that these two have fought each other…. you wanna talk about a shallow pool of competition…
Bonjasky took the first two meetings…. he was heading towards taking this one w/out the disqualification unless Hari pulled a knockout of his ass, which with his skill he could have very well done that.
Shallow pool?
In K-1 they compete in tournament format after having local tournaments across the globe. They are just top of the food chain across the globe
The best of the best keep facing each other in tournaments doesn’t mean it’s a shallow pool. It just makes sense that the cream rises to the top.
Shallow pool wasn't an insult
I didn’t mean shallow pool in a bad way… I’ve looked at past events on YouTube lately and it is the same guys making it to the finals of these tournaments, lately some new talent is rising up but its mainly the same guys
Shallow pool wasn’t probably the best wording, these fighters are the best at what they do and hopefully this sport will gain some momentum and some new talent will start making it harder for these K-1 veterans to make it to the finals of these tournaments. I know that Badr Hari is a very young fighter, so minus the pyscho antics, he is going to be a force to be reckon with.
I’m a new fan to K-1 so I am still learning who these guys are, I followed ISKA pretty closely for a while so there are a few familiar faces like Jerome La Banner but guys like Remy Bojansky, Teixeria, and Badr Hari are new to me.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 7, 2008 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
A situation similar to this has happened in MMA before. When Takanori Gomi fought Luis Azeredo he KOed him in epic fashion and when he was visibly out Gomi pounced on him. This isn’t really that unusual in MMA as many follow up to just to make sure but the ref had jumped in immediately as Luis was on his way down. Gomi would not stop pounding on Azeredo and the ref was in his way the whole time. I think Gomi may have even been pulled away and then he went back for more. It happens after this portion of the gif
There’s a gif out there showing Gomi going to town on the unconscious Azeredo but I can’t find it at the moment
This does happen in MMA
But Hari was pushing through he ref and still planted his heel in this dude’s head. This a sport where once you’re down, like in boxing, you go to a neutral corner. Once they are down, you stop till they get back up…. Bonjasky was down and Hari still went to town on him.
The gif doesn’t show when Gomi was pulled off and he went back for more, even after it was clear the fight was over. Ill look for a gif of that part
Also lets not forget the scumbag that is former WEC and UFC fighter Mike Kyle.
Kyle was fighting Brian Olsen in the WEC and at one point Olsen slips and falls on all fours. Kyle then soccer kicks him square in the face, which has always been illegal in American MMA. The ref in the match, Josh Rosenthal, stepped in to stop the fight but Kyle kept pounding away and Rosenthal had to be assisted by Herb Dean to pull Kyle off of Olsen.
That cunt should have been suspended for life from ANY state but he was only suspended indefinitely in California. He has since fought again in California, among other places. Luckily though he has not won any of his fights back. His last win was way before the WEC incident in 2005. The incident was in 2006 and he has not won since.
i remember also that Olsen was in such bad shape after the kicks that he was told he may never fight again.
EliteXC was the first promotion to hire Kyle after he came back. It was that hiring that put me against EliteXC for good.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 7, 2008 3:20 AM EST up reply actions
You’re right but I don’t consider the UFC events prior to UFC 15, where kicks to the head of a downed opponent, to be MMA events. They were NHB events IMO. At UFC 15 all the seemingly dangerous street fighting techniques were banned(head butting, kicks to the head of downed opponent, strikes to the back of the head, groin shots and hair pulling)
Kyle freakout
Do any of you have links or gifs for the Kyle freakout?
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Whoops, just saw the link
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
that ref did his job
props to him getting more physical than most k-1 refs ever have to
im not impressed with your performance
I read info on the K-1 website wrong
They interviewed Bonjasky after the fight and they are already talking about another match w/ Hari immediately once his fate is decided. He said he is confident the outcome will be the same and he will then be 3-0 vs Hari.
It was late and the meds were kicking, lol. I was in shock over the Pacquiao vs De La Hoya fight still.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 7, 2008 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea who Sinistra is but I’m gonna look up his past fights. After that Grand Prix, K-1 has me hooked.
Is Wikipedia a good source of info about this stuff? I’ve heard of Wikipedia but never really looked at it.
SEE!!!
The ref was all over him and he still kept going….
Thanx Smoogy for showing this…. my computer is acting up and wouldn’t let me post it.
More on Kyle
Here’s more on why he’s a god damn low life:
Mike Kyle’s mixed martial arts career has been plagued by fouls and questionable in-fight behavior.
During his fight against Wes Sims at UFC 47 in April of 2004, Kyle allegedly bit Sims on the chest. The bite marks were visible on Sims’ chest during the post-fight press conference, which took place a few hours after Kyle’s bout that evening.
When Kyle fought Justin Eilers at UFC 49 in August of 2004, Kyle delivered knees to Eilers’ crotch on a few different occasions before time was called and Eilers was allowed to recover. Eilers came back and won the fight by knockout.
Kyle’s fight against Tsuyoshi Kosaka in the Pancrase organization in October of 2005 had to be stopped prematurely after Kosaka was poked in the eye. The fight was taken to the judges’ scorecards, where Kyle won unanimously.
When Kyle fought Krzysztof Soszynski on the undercard of the StrikeForce promotion’s “Shamrock vs. Gracie” card in March of 2006, the bout was ruled a technical draw after Kyle poked Soszynski in the eye approximately two minutes into the fight.
This is lightly analogous to the Babalu/Heath incident – the ref was trying to halt the action, but the fighter didn’t stop. Hari was way worse, of course, but there are parallels to be drawn.
The stomp is what pisses me off the most. Continuing to punch is pretty dick, but the worst hits are the ones you don’t expect. No one in K-1 (or any striking sport) expects to have his face stomped, especially after the ref intercedes. I’m sure that part of his quitting was due to utter bewilderment.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 7, 2008 3:32 AM EST reply actions
If a UFC fighter did this (or something comparable)…
They would be chastised, perhaps fined or even released. Then featured in every UFC highlight video made from that point on.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
Like how they keep showing off Babalu’s chokeout of Heath?
I don’t think I’ve even seen a clip of that fight since then, beyond what can be found on the internet.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 7, 2008 5:33 AM EST up reply actions
I was just joking…
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
Didn’t seem typical of you, but I didn’t catch the sarcasm. My mistake.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 7, 2008 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Mir vs Sims 1?
i know the ref didn’t get involved and sims didn’t go back for seconds… but the intent was there and it’s the cloeset thing in the modern UFC that comes immediately to mind. Sims didn’t know grabbing the fence, stomping Mir’s head wasn’t illegal? gimme a break.
It’s Wes Simms. He has the Mike Kyle gene or the Gilbert Yvel gene.
EIther way, he is short a chromosone or two. It’s a wonder he was born human shaped.
Sims and Kyle
I’m amazed that when Sims and Kyle fought each other, they both didn’t pull a switchblade or brass knucks out of their shorts.
Bravo Remy Bonjasky
Unfortunately since HDnet isn’t carried on Comcast in my town, I’m just going to have check out more post fights on YouTube.
Bonjasky had quite a rise to the finals of this tournament and this was a well earned victory for him.
The fight between Hong Man Choi and Ray Sefo was really good as well…. Melvin Manhouef also had an awesome knock out victory as well. Check out these fights if you can.
This had to be the 1st time many saw K-1 Grand Prix tournament. i know it was for me.
My impression of the fighters was that Badr was easily the most talented. I was def impressed with him when he was able to recover from that knockdown against Zimmerman to get the dominating win.
However, he seemed outclassed against Remy Bonjasky. Maybe it was an experience thing. When he had the fight ending meltdown he was def frustrated and knew he was losing the fight. BUT…Wow did Remy milk that recovery time. As soon as I saw him pulling that acting job I knew the fight was going to be called based on Remy being unwilling to continue to fight. Badr def made it worse by giving the refs an easy decision to DQ him. But still, Remy clearly wanted out of that fight. Maybe he knew he would get KO’d in the 3rd.
Acting job?
Maybe it was, but I don’t know if you have ever caught a heel to the head like that… it can really be disorienting if the heel hits in the wrong spot. I caught a heel stomp right in between the eyes once when I was training for a Muay Thai match, it was a nasty concussion and I had double vision for a few days.
No matter what, this was a great event and I hope my buddy can record some more events for me in the future. Still can’t believe that size difference between Sefo and Choi. Great night of fights and it was an amazing production. Hopefully K-1 makes money and not lose money on their events.
Yeah...
with such a gross foul I don’t think it matters if it was an acting job or not. Hari deserved to get DQ’ed at that point.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 7, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I too Def think he deserved the DQ, no doubt. I just think Remy was in shock over the way Badr melted down and there was no way he wanted any part of him after that. I certainly understand him not wanting to continue for that reason alone.
Badr has some serious issues. He should be suspended or have his license to fight in Japan taken away for at least 6 mths.
by lbk on Dec 7, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
‘Maybe he knew he would get KO’d in the 3rd’
C’mon, gimme a break. So far these two guys have fought ~5 rounds against each other in the past two years and Badr has yet to land a clean shot against him. If anything, Remy would’ve been harder to hit in the last round because he massive points lead he would have had would enable him to fight even more defensively than he normally does.
He seemed upset by how he won.
Even if he is an Oscar level actor, fighters really shouldn’t be expected to continue after that. Aside from the damage done by the illegal blows giving the cheater an advantage, keeping the fight going is pretty much asking for other fouls, as one guy is already crazy and the other feeling like punching the other guy in the nuts a few times.
body hairy
i 1st heard abour badr hari a couple weeks ago as a possible opponent for kimbo.
let me say that K1 was simply wanting people to pay attention to this kid. kimbo wa snever meant to fight him. wow! fast, has amazing combos, killer instinct, mark hunt-like chin, and the best nickname ever “the devil prince”.
i cant explain the DQ, he was winning the round, possibly on a way to a KO. i think Bas should drop Kimbo and teach this freak some ground and pound.
amazing K1 event all around. but the main story was badr. i am psyched!
Was anyone else not impressed by...
Badr’s GnP?
I know he’s called out MMA fighters and said the best fighters are in K-1. His GnP looked pretty bad. He’d get whooped again if he fought MMA.
Speaking of which I want to see his 1st and only MMA fight. I read he got choked out.
Nobody in MMA would outstrike him, that’s for sure. The guy has been training stand up since he was a kid. So, of course he’s going to be at a huge disadvantage on the ground if he were to fight MMA. Assuming he doesn’t knock someone’s head off first..
by lbk on Dec 7, 2008 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hari getting choked out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CP63CUM5Jg
Not much of a choke-out…he taps quickly when the guy fore-arms him across the throat from side control. Guess the ground game freaked him out.
thought u guys might be interested in Badr Hari's comments.
Q: Could you explain what happened at the end of your fight with Bonjasky?
A: You know what? I come to fight, and to destroy. I don’t come here to fight with my hands held high and backing up. I am an emotional guy and I wanted to fight. He didn’t. He didn’t want to fight.
Q: How do you feel about the result?
A: I fight for my fans so I apologize to them for this. But I put on a good show, and an aggressive show. I’m just going to apologize to my fans. The K-1 judges make the decisions. I’m just a bad boy.
Q: Do you think Remy was truly hurt?
A: I think everyone saw what happened, so I don’t need to answer that question. He couldn’t stand up, but was quickly on his feet giving a great speech seconds later. His corner was screaming at him to stay down. I came to fight and he didn’t. He is a great actor.
Q: This tournament had the theme of new fighters and a changing of the times, but it didn’t really turn out that way, did it?
A: How didn’t it? I knocked out the three-time champion of K-1 in two rounds today and put on a great second fight. Everyone talks about changing, but I cannot fight the ghosts. There were many changes today, but if you don’t see that I don’t care. I just fight for my fans.
A: I fight for my fans so I apologize to them for this. But I put on a good show, and an aggressive show. I’m just going to apologize to my fans. The K-1 judges make the decisions. I’m just a bad boy.
Wow. He fought in an illegal way and he justifies that by saying he came to fight aggressive? Badr was getting whooped all in both rounds and that was a desperation move to get out of the fight. I also really don’t like how he keeps pretending to be a bad boy. Ok, you are known of the bad boy of K-1, does that mean you have to find illegal ways to try and win?
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