ProElite/EliteXC to Rise From The Dead Via KOTC?
Strong Rumor:
There are rumors circulating that KOTC owner Terry Trebilcock and a yet-to-be-named partner are no more than a week away from completing a deal to purchase EliteXC and it’s remaining assets. Some experienced names in MMA are said to be involved (thankfully, not the Shaws), and the word is that there will be a special press conference held after the sale is complete.
The big get here would be the TV contracts with CBS and Showtime as well the fighter’s contracts, which the legal team are working on transferring right now.
This news comes after it was reported that 3 groups were trying to bid for ProElite, with KOTC owner, Terry Trebilcock being the most outspoken.
FiveOuncesOfPain.com has learned through multiple sources - all speaking on the condition of anonymity - that ProElite’s current management team is hard at work towards completing the sale of the company. Indications are that ProElite believes it could have an agreement in place prior to the Christmas holiday.
According to sources, as many as three groups are believed to be vying for ProElite. Only the identity of one of the groups is certain, with multiple sources stating that a group led by King of the Cage promoter Terry Trebilcock has made a bid.
However, Trebilcock’s group is not considered the leading contender at this date. Sources will only go so far as to describe the top contender as a company with over a billion dollars in annual gross revenue that also is a recognizable name.
One group that is not considered to be a leading contender is the publicly traded Art of War promotional fight company. In response to a Nov. 26 report by this website, a source said that while the company was interested in submitting a bid on ProElite early in the sale process, that Art of War is no longer considered to a legitimate suitor at this time.
Whether there is a legitimate third contender for ProElite is not entirely certain, as only one source indicated the involvement of a third unnamed group in the bidding process.
It is believed that upon the completion of the sale, the leading contender hopes to inherit ProElite’s television contracts with both CBS and SHOWTIME. While it is believed that the two television partners have no desire to work with ProElite’s current ownership, Five Ounces of Pain has learned that they would be open to working with a new ProElite management team. Sources have indicated that both CBS and SHOWTIME have every intention of televising MMA events in 2009 and that they are looking for a group that can promote a large number of events.
The likelihood of a ProElite sale to a new owner raises the possibility that fighters under contract to EliteXC will not be granted free agency. While select fighters are being allowed to fight outside of their current deals on a one-off basis, the bulk of their fights could potentially come with a new version of EliteXC in 2009.
Also, MMAJunkie.com reports:
The future of ProElite should be decided by the end of December.
While the struggling promotion has not commented publicly beyond its government filings since shuttering fight operations at the end of October, recent industry speculation suggests that ProElite’s assets could be purchased within the next few weeks.
During a recent appearance on TAGG Radio (www.taggradio.com), the official radio partner of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), agent Ken Pavia said he’s learned that there are “three legitimate bids for ProElite,” and that the next iteration of the promotion would begin staging fights in the first quarter of 2009. Those bouts would be made with many of the 80 fighters still under ProElite contracts.
King of the Cage founder Terry Trebilcock is one of the names that has surfaced as a potential buyer, with backing from venture capitalists. Trebilcock has the business pedigree from his success with KOTC to convince VCs with deep pockets that a repackaged ProElite would work.
Regardless of what transpires with ProElite, MMA is still very much in the programming plans of both ProElite television partners, CBS and Showtime.
“Showtime and CBS have grandiose visions of what’s going to happen in ‘09 in terms of the number of fights, number of events, and they’ve been looking for an established organization,” said Pavia.
That organization could be the second edition of ProElite or, perhaps, Strikeforce, if the San Jose, Calif.-based promotion is unable to consummate a deal with NBC for live fights.
Meanwhile, fighters under contract to ProElite remain, for the most part, on the sidelines. While the agreements fighters have with ProElite are largely nonexclusive, the athletes must seek permission from ProElite to fight elsewhere. The company has granted exceptions – Scott Smith recently fought for Strikeforce, for example – but it’s in ProElite’s best interest to keep its top talent under wraps until the future of the company is decided.
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At least Terry Trebilcock seens to know his way around MMA promotion. I wonder if this is just an asset buy as opposed to a company take over, ProElite is pretty much dead as a company but King of the Cage seems to still be very viable.
by who me on
Dec 4, 2008 5:23 PM EST
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What makes it interesting to me is this:
Along with Terry Trebilcock, some experienced names in MMA are said to be involved
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 4, 2008 5:48 PM EST
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LOL! I like this quote by KOTC
skala will have nothing to do with the new elite xc or gary shaw rebuidling the brand with knowlegeble members in the mma industry
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 4, 2008 5:53 PM EST
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From the same person that provided the same Strong Rumor quote above.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 4, 2008 6:08 PM EST
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I was looking for a link, it would be a interesting read.
by who me on
Dec 4, 2008 6:43 PM EST
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Read my other post I quoted below.
BTW, this is not a read, but talking to someone.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 4, 2008 6:47 PM EST
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Gotcha, either way it’s interesting stuff.
by who me on
Dec 4, 2008 7:51 PM EST
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I got another interesting quote:
according to sources KOTC, along with an undisclosed financer, are in the final stages of purchasing Elite XC for their fighters and the cbs/showtime contract. That is why none of the EXC fighters have being released from their contracts. Once the sale goes through KOTC will combine their roster with EXC and resurrect the promotion under a new banner.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 7:09 PM EST
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Yawn, I don’t believe or care to believe in what you believe.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 4, 2008 6:18 PM EST
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I firmly believe, with the full time team and the part-timers we currently have, we can turn Proelite around into a profitable company. I think Terry’s track record speaks for itself, from running KOTC for the last 10 years to producing so many of today’s MMA stars. Everything he has told me would happen with the company, in the two years I have worked for him, has happened. He knows what he’s doing, plain and simple, and I trust him 100%. They should make a show about his life so that people could see what a promoter goes through on a daily basis.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 4, 2008 6:21 PM EST
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So I guess the “billion dollar” in revenue company got outbid by a piece meal promoter…
LOL
These guys are such retards… leaks to the oh so infamous Sam Caplan – I guess this huge company who was “leaked” to be buying got outbid by a pizza delivery guy.
good luck in trying to transfer the fighter contracts.
These fighters have the same type of contracts pride fighters had… Zuffa had to sign completely new ones.
The only real asset proelite has is the video library… that’s it.
by mmalogic on
Dec 4, 2008 7:57 PM EST
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A billion dollar in revenue company isn’t really a big company and if they were smart they would of only bid up to a certain point no matter how big they were. I mean honestly how much would you bid for ProElite even if you were filthy rich? Saying that Trebilcock may outbid Mystery company X doesn’t mean that he isn’t paying way too much for it.
by who me on
Dec 4, 2008 8:15 PM EST
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Really?
WWE is less than a 600 million per year in revenue company… Zuffa is less than 350 million.
I guess those are small companies because clearly 1 billion is peanuts.
by mmalogic on
Dec 5, 2008 7:50 AM EST
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That is MMA Sport Entertertainment.
The big companies rake in i billion easy.
Also, just because you have a lot of money does not mean you should over pay for anything.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 1:01 PM EST
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Please show me a company that does 1 billion in revenue a year and “isnt really a big company”?
by mmalogic on
Dec 5, 2008 2:10 PM EST
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I said big companies rake in 1 billion easy.
These companies don’t exist in Sport Entertainment at the moment in America.
Also, I heard Ecko might be their rumored buyer.
They make over 1 billion in revenue.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 2:48 PM EST
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Wal Mart has a yearly revenue of 380 billion, ExxonMobile has a revenue of 360 billion, Toyota has a revenue of 200+ billion, GM has 181 billion in revenue, General Electric has a revenue of 172 billion, those are really big companies. The National Bank of Pakistan has a billion in revenue a year. I billion in revenue just isn’t as impressive as you seem to think it is.
Revenue is a gross number it is going to look huge, thing is it doesn’t really tell you squat about how much money a company has unless you also know the net income for comparison. Look at GM, they are one of the largest companies in the world with hundreds of billions in revenue but the WWE has a much higher net income(GM looses tens of billions of dollars a year). Don’t read too much into a revenue number.
Oh and for what it is worth neither the WWE or Zuffa are large companies, they are niche entertainment companies.
by who me on
Dec 5, 2008 3:09 PM EST
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Very well said.
I was saying the same in the post above, just not as detailed.
:)
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 3:23 PM EST
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So who is a bigger company than Zuffa in MMA?
who is bigger than the WWE in pro wrestling?
They are the “biggest” “largest” …
What you are talking about above are conglomerates with a term that has a fixed meaning… “big company” is a relative term where context is needed.
A bidder with a billion in rev bidding against a mom and pop promoter is certainly considered a “big company”… it’s common sense.
Next on overpaying…
I agree no matter how big you are at the table you will not overpay…
my point was this means either Trebilcock is overpaying or the “leak” was complete bullshit as I said from the get go.
by mmalogic on
Dec 5, 2008 4:04 PM EST
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No.
It means what the report says, that KOTC and another group have bids for ProElite. How was that BS. Bids change all the time. As far as I know, it is between KOTC and perhaps Ecko at the moment. Ecko’s offer is apparently a lot more than Terrys though.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 4:08 PM EST
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Who said the Mystery bidder was a niche entertainment company? The relative context is the size of a company with 1 billion in revenue and not only is that not as big as some people seem to think it tells you absolutly nothing about their ability to bid strongly on ProElite. GM is one of the largest companies in the world but currently I could put in a higher bid than they could.
by who me on
Dec 5, 2008 4:31 PM EST
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A company in GM’s position wouldnt be looking to purchase pro-elite… common sense.
by mmalogic on
Dec 8, 2008 1:32 AM EST
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Zuffa was trying to get fighters signed to PRIDE into the UFC, and a lot of fighters were “offered” to tear up their old contracts and sign new ones with Zuffa. This new ownership group will be trying to get the EliteXC fighters back in EliteXC. Its not really the same situation.
by smoogy on
Dec 4, 2008 8:25 PM EST
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It is close to the same situation. Heck the only guy I can think of that actually had a contract that transferred to Zuffa that he fought on was Hendo. I’m sure they did lowball some guys (this is the UFC we are talking about) but there were a lot of guys who’s contracts just didn’t transfer to new ownership(like Fedor). If these fighter’s managers are saying the ProElite contracts are similar to the Pride ones and won’t transfer then we have to believe they at least have a clue as to what they are talking about.
by who me on
Dec 4, 2008 8:50 PM EST
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It is not the same situation because there is no merger. If they plan on keeping ProElite together and rebrand it, maybe, all that would be changing is the owners, and the contracts would not really need to transfer. They would stay in the same company, just a new owner and management would be the only difference.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 1:33 PM EST
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Changing ownership is changing ownership and that might be enough for fighters to get out of these contracts if they want to.
by who me on
Dec 5, 2008 3:12 PM EST
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I guess it all depends on the contracts.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 4:37 PM EST
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That and whether the fighters still want out if someone buys the company. I don’t care if the Easter Bunny is the highest bidder if the fighters want out then they might as well just let them go because they are going to fight the transfer every step of the way but if they are happy with the change they will stay even if the contracts don’t officially transfer.
by who me on
Dec 5, 2008 5:30 PM EST
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They should be happy to still be able to fight under Showtime and CBS, one would figure. I wonder how Shields feels about it. Hopefully, they can start building the competition.
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 7:08 PM EST
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Some guys have already signed other places and have moved on and some guys (like Shields and KJ Noons) were talking about moving on before ProElite failed. I’m sure every single one of the EliteXC fighters will have to be dealt with on a one on one basis.
by who me on
Dec 6, 2008 2:54 PM EST
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Actually we don’t know anything for sure unless we look at the specific contract. The PRIDE contract indicated that they were to fight for PRIDE thus meaning it couldn’t transfer to the UFC so easily. If King of the Cage takes over the assets it will probably be under the King of the Cage name as there is a bit of a bad taste left in people’s mouths from EliteXC. Despite that, the contracts are probably to ProElite so King of the Cage could work it out as ProElite being the name of their business side while KOTC is the name of the promotion under ProElite, so essentially the contracts would be transferred from ProElite to ProElite.
There are most definitely other existing loopholes for fighters to get out of these contracts so we’ll just have to take a wait and see approach.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 4, 2008 10:11 PM EST
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Ecko Is Billion Dollar Group To Purchase ProElite?
Interesting…
by MMASuPreMaCy on
Dec 5, 2008 2:56 PM EST
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MMAJunkie Reports:
The future of ProElite should be decided by the end of December.
While the struggling promotion has not commented publicly beyond its government filings since shuttering fight operations at the end of October, recent industry speculation suggests that ProElite’s assets could be purchased within the next few weeks.
During a recent appearance on TAGG Radio (www.taggradio.com), the official radio partner of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), agent Ken Pavia said he’s learned that there are “three legitimate bids for ProElite,” and that the next iteration of the promotion would begin staging fights in the first quarter of 2009. Those bouts would be made with many of the 80 fighters still under ProElite contracts.
King of the Cage founder Terry Trebilcock is one of the names that has surfaced as a potential buyer, with backing from venture capitalists. Trebilcock has the business pedigree from his success with KOTC to convince VCs with deep pockets that a repackaged ProElite would work.
Regardless of what transpires with ProElite, MMA is still very much in the programming plans of both ProElite television partners, CBS and Showtime.
“Showtime and CBS have grandiose visions of what’s going to happen in ‘09 in terms of the number of fights, number of events, and they’ve been looking for an established organization,” said Pavia.
That organization could be the second edition of ProElite or, perhaps, Strikeforce, if the San Jose, Calif.-based promotion is unable to consummate a deal with NBC for live fights.
Meanwhile, fighters under contract to ProElite remain, for the most part, on the sidelines. While the agreements fighters have with ProElite are largely nonexclusive, the athletes must seek permission from ProElite to fight elsewhere. The company has granted exceptions – Scott Smith recently fought for Strikeforce, for example – but it’s in ProElite’s best interest to keep its top talent under wraps until the future of the company is decided.
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