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Why Title Shot for Rampage Jackson Is Justified

I've noticed a lot of tension between MMA fans concerning the granting of title fights for former champions.  Certainly no one is arguing that former champs don't deserve the chance to win back their belt.  The controversy exists rather in the amount of wins required to gain back that opportunity.

I don't believe there is any certain formula - each situation is unique and ought to be treated as such.  However, here are a few guidelines which I believe justify either an immediate title shot rematch or a "one-win and fight for the title again" scenario:

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Split Decision Losses (or even very close majority decisions)

Generally, after a title fight ends by split decision (or very close majority decision), MMA fans are split as well about who they believe truly won.  Not only will a rematch resolve any debate in this case, but an immediate rematch will also serve to satiate the fans' appetite.

No one could say that Forrest Griffin hadn’t earned the belt, but it also wasn’t an easy argument to make that Rampage had lost the belt.  It was a very close decision, with fans split on both sides as well.  At the time, I would’ve preferred to see an immediate rematch.  As it turned out, Jackson had to face a very tough opponent (who had twice defeated him) in Wanderlei Silva to possibly earn back a shot at the title.  To me, Jackson has earned his shot (unfortunately it won’t be a rematch).

Any Loss (after having defended the belt several times)

Even after a champion has lost, the new champion is not always respected (especially if they had not been able to convincingly finish the incumbent).  This hesitancy to embrace the new champion is even more aggrandized when the fans have grown accustomed to the old champ.

Chuck Liddell had been the Light Heavyweight champion for over two years (and defended the belt four times) before he lost it to Jackson.  I am convinced that Liddell would’ve received another shot at the title had he defeated Keith Jardine.

Matt Hughes had been the Welterweight champion for the same amount of time (and this was his second time holding the belt) before he lost to St. Pierre.  What did it take for him to earn a shot back for the title?  A hard-fought decision over a game Chris Lytle (TUF 4 runner-up).

Any Loss to an Overwhelming Underdog

Even when champions are convincingly finished by a devastating KO, there are certain circumstances that would still justify a rematch.  When an underdog is granted a title shot that perhaps prior to the fight would have seemed as a little premature, a convincing victory may win the belt, but it may also leave questions in the fans’ heads about whether it was a fluke.  This is even more relevant when the defending champion is one of the organization’s most popular fighters.

The obvious case is when Georges St. Pierre lost the belt to Matt Serra.  Although you cannot take anything away from Serra’s performance that night, many fans were not ready to move him ahead of GSP in their rankings.  Due to the deal made with the winners of TUF 4, Serra was granted a title shot before it seemed as if his career up to that date had truly merited it.  St. Pierre, on the other hand, seemed to be on the verge of becoming the #1 pound-for-pound fighter in the world.  This outcome did not sit well with fans, and so it would only be a matter of time before GSP would be given the opportunity to reclaim his belt.  His very next fight was for the interim title (replacing an injured Serra against Matt Hughes) and then the rematch itself with Serra.

*The other allowance would be when a title is vacated.  This is what afforded Matt Hughes and Tim Sylvia (twice) to gain back their titles.

Rampage should be afforded the same opportunity as previous UFC title holders and get another chance at the belt.  Granted that Machida and Thiago Silva have undefeated records, but Jackson's record still looks superior to theirs when you factor in how close his last loss was.  (Personally, I'd rather see how they match up against former title holders like Griffen and Liddell.)

 

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driving your vehicle on the freakin road and not almost committing vehicular manslaughter?

The only reason Rampage won’t get the title shot is because his legal issues are still up in the air. I very much doubt that he’ll get jail time but that would be pretty bad for the UFC, PR wise, if they give a title shot to a convict without the proper marketing of “he’s a changed man, he’s a human being that deserves the honor of being champion”.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 30, 2008 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

I have no problem with Rampage or any other champ getting a rematch if they lose.

I would basically look at like this, you lose, go win a fight, then you can get the rematch. The exception being if the fight ended in controversy, then an immediate rematch is fine.

I think what we will see here, is Rampage/Griffin with the winner getting the title shot. The reason? Because of Rampage’s legal issues.

Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.

http://eliotmarshall.com/

by BJJDenver on Dec 30, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

Take away legal issues...

then yes, Rampage deserves the title shot after what he did to Wanderlei Silva. The quality of his opponents are far better than Lyoto Machida’s.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 30, 2008 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely.

Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.

http://eliotmarshall.com/

by BJJDenver on Dec 30, 2008 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

One little thing...

Rampage wants Forrest, so does it matter wether the title shot is justified or not?

But just for kicks, yes, he deserves the shot…but the timing with Forrest’s hand and Page’s legal trouble clearing up are pretty close, so the rematch seems way more likely.

by Kaleb Kelchner on Dec 30, 2008 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Rampage gets it.

He’s due – and you don’t give Evans the fucking undefeated Ghost Dragon Machida as his first defense. That’s just mean.

Forrest-Jardine II, Rua/Coleman-Cane (see if the kid’s for real), Forrest v the winner of Franklin/Hendo and Wanderlei against the loser.

by Derek Suboticki on Dec 30, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

Could anyone imagine if Coleman actually beat Shogun? What would be next for him if he beat Shogun? Would he then get Forrest or Liddell?

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill

by FlyByKnight on Dec 30, 2008 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

I think outcome such as that would perhaps speak less of Coleman’s newfound capabilities and more of “What the hell happened to Shogun??”

by flassasin24 on Dec 30, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Very well thought out and logical write up. That tension you speak of though is when emotion gets involved and god knows, MMA fans can be an emotional bunch.

by Benicio on Dec 31, 2008 12:26 AM EST reply actions  

I think that Rampage definitely deserves another shot. He was the champ and he defended title. Is only loss was a close call with Forest. He also just put down Wandy. The only thing is i think that if Machida beats Thiago Silva, then he should he the first shot at the title, then Rampage should be next. I see them winding up fighting anyway, becuase i think Rampage will beat Rashad and Lyoto Machida will beat Thiago.

by J_Maddux on Jan 11, 2009 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

GSP’s first fight after Serra I was against Kos, not Hughes.

by D.Capitated on Jan 14, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

Also, and I hate to double post, but I’d have preferred Jackson got the rematch right away. That wasn’t just a close fight, it was a classic, and now the UFC has to hope for both men to not have missteps over a long period of time (we’re talking 9 months to a year) for a heated rematch to happen while there’s still any sort of remaining buzz to that fight.

Talk of Machida “deserving” a title shot is, to me, a bit ridiculous. Everyone rushes to discredit Tito nowadays, but that’s his best win in recent memory. Same with Sokoudjou. Either they’re not all that great and he should probably fight an upper echelon gatekeeper first (Wanderlei? Jardine?) or there’s a lot of folks proud to be hypocritical. And no, I don’t think beating Thiago Silva should guarantee entry to a title shot. He beat Irvin by self inflicted knee implosion, Houston “One Hit Wonder” Alexander, and a bunch of guys most of us couldn’t pick out of a lineup.

by D.Capitated on Jan 14, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

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