Melvin Manhoef to Replace Jerome LeBanner at K-1 Dynamite!! 2008
by Brett Jones on Dec 30, 2008 11:00 AM EST
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Japan-MMA has the scoop:
Last minute changes to the Dynamite card! Jerome is out due to the flu and FEG has been working hard to find a replacement, it is announced now that Melvin Manhoef steps in!!
With the tremendous weight difference between Manhoef and Hunt, and the fact that Hunt has at least shown that he's heard of ground fighting, it's going to be a tough road to hoe for Manhoef. Regardless of the outcome, Manhoef deserves a tremendous amount of respect for taking this fight on a day's notice. Credit should also go to FEG for finding a replacement fans could actually care about on such short notice.
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Oh, this was one of the K-1 bouts, so Melvin is not unretired since he only retired from MMA. My mistake.
by szucconi on Dec 30, 2008 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure this is an mma bout. And the fact that the article refers to “ground fighting” would further lead me to believe that it is under mma rules.
I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.
by The_Gaijin on Dec 30, 2008 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right, it does say DREAM rules next to that bout.
by szucconi on Dec 30, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As noted by The_Gaijin, this appears to be an mma bout.
According to Japan-MMA.com’s listing of the full card it is “Dream Rules”:
The complete and final card for tomorrow then:
19. Main-Event: DREAM-Rule: Kazushi Sakuraba 24-11-1 vs. 32-13-2 Kiyoshi Tamura
18: DREAM-Rule: Joachim Hansen 19-7-1 vs. 14-2-1 “JZ” Gesias Cavalcante
17: DREAM-Rule: Shinya Aoki 18-3-0 vs. 15-1-0 Eddie Alvarez
16. DREAM-Rule: Mark Hunt 5-4-0 vs. 22-5-1 Melvin Manhoef
15. K-1-Rule: Gegard Mousasi vs. Musashi
14. DREAM-Rule: Mirko “CroCop” Filipovic 23-6-2 vs. 1-1-0 Hong Man Choi
—BREAK—
13. K-1 Rule: Alistair Overeem vs. Badr Hari
12. K-1-Rule: Tatsuya Kawajiri vs. Kozo Takeda
11. DREAM-Rule: Hayato “Mach” Sakurai 33-8-2 vs. 2-5-1 Katsuyori Shibata
10. DREAM-Rule: Semmy Schilt 25-14-1 vs. 3-0-0 Mighty Mo
9. DREAM-Rule: Bob Sapp 9-3-1 vs. Kinniku Mantaro
—BREAK—
8. K-1 Youth Tournament Final: Winner Fight 3 vs. Winner Fight 4
7. DREAM-Rule: Yukio Sakaguchi 3-3-0 vs. 1-1-0 Andy Ologun
6. DREAM-Rule: Hideo Tokoro 21-14-1 vs. 18-9-0 Daisuke Nakamura
5. K-1-Rule: Yoshihiro Sato vs. Artur Kyshenko
4. K-1 Youth Tournament (semi-final): Hiroya vs. Shota Shimada
3. K-1 Youth Tournament (semi-final): Tatsuya Kusakabe vs. Koya Urabe
2. DREAM-Rule: Ikuhisa Minowa “Minowaman” 40-29-8 vs. Errol Zimmerman
Opening Fight:
1. K-1 Youth (Reserve): Daizo Sasaki vs. Taishi Hiratsuka
Man, that looks like an awfully fun card to watch …
by Kierkegaard on Dec 30, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Under-18 tournament is absurd, and 19 fights is bound to make even MMA hardcore fans fall asleep. If HIROYA doesn’t win, nobody gives a shit. Sato vs. Kyshenko could be cut as well.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Dec 30, 2008 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Melvin never retired from MMA.
I know what you are thinking, and what you are about to say, but he NEVER retired from MMA.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 30, 2008 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, he retired from the fight game altogether to spend time with his family. He only recently came back to K-1, and it was still questionable whether or not he would take MMA fights once again.
The reason for retiring was his massive work ethic. He has some crazy training regiment and schedule. Something like 2 times a day, 6 times a week.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Dec 30, 2008 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Correct!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 30, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he said that, but he was later asked again and he said no, he wasn’t retired.
He was just frustrated after the DREAM loss.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup he was just upset because he had trained so hard on his ground game and it ended up not mattering at all
by skwirrl on Dec 30, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When an athlete says they are retired then you ahve to take them at there word. Thats not to say they can’t come back or its a big deal. If a guy says he is retired today and is back on the field tomorrow then did he retire or not? Its not real cut and dye in a sport like MMA where guys go months between fights.
by szucconi on Dec 30, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How many times has Brett Farve or Floyd Mayweather Jr. retired?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 30, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Both...
Favre “debates it” every year…this past year was the only time I recall him “officially retiring”
Mayweather retired briefly before the Hatton fight and again afterward.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 31, 2008 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Correct
Yes, that’s what I was hinting at with my posting. Basically, it can be assumed that he was simply pissed off considerign the fact he came back right away. After KOing Slowinski spectacularly, no way he’s off the sport.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 30, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An Unstoppable Force vs An Immovable object
WARRRR
most devastating puncher in all MMA vs the best chin in the world. Awesome bout
by skwirrl on Dec 30, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
I can haz HDNet broadcast nao? Pleez?
by xFenixKnightx on Dec 30, 2008 11:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
When you need money who cares about retirement,. Bring out the leash Mike.
by lbk on Dec 30, 2008 11:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
YES!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Leland Roling on Dec 30, 2008 12:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sucks we won't be able to see it live...
Manhoef is a beast, I didn’t know he was retired though…. money talks though.
I guess once they release this on PPV after January 6th, I’ll set the day aside to watch all these fights. I won’t fall asleep.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 30, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No knees on the ground
With that much of weight difference, it should not be allowed.
Im pretty sure Melvin has better ground skills than Mark Hunt, without a doubt this fight would be a firework!!
You have to beat the legend, in order to become the LEGEND
-Melvin Manhoef (after his destruction of Sakuraba)
by chopstickthugz on Dec 30, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think any DREAM rules fights allow knees on the ground, so it’s probably a non-issue anyways.
I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.
by The_Gaijin on Dec 30, 2008 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Knees on the ground are allowed in DREAM.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 30, 2008 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
correct
Melvin used them to disable Dae Won Kim at Dream 3.
Boy I hope Dream sticks around. I love their events. The entrances and Lenne Hardt just never get old. I’m also starting to like the “no downward elbows”. It makes guys go for Subs and discourages the ole Lay and Pray.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Dec 30, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, DREAM needs to exist in perpetuity just because of the Dragon Lady.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Dec 30, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup more than 10KG difference
there will be no knees on the ground in this bout.
by skwirrl on Dec 30, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time seeing Manhoef not getting stomped (figuratively, not the Badr Hari sense). Hunt is much, much bigger, and has The Chin, and consider the problems Silva had with the size, and he’s bigger than Manhoef. I hope it’s competitive, though – both great KO guys.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 30, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hunt has still looked horrible in his last few fights. Schilt somehow spinning heel kicked him, which I don’t even want to begin to realize how crappy Hunt has been lately to get caught by such a large and slower fighter in Schilt with that kind of kick.
If Melvin can kick a bit, and throw a massive bomb, Hunt could be in trouble. People are saying Hunt has an iron chin, but Melvin hits like a damn anvil on concrete. It’ll be interesting to see. Also interesting, will Hunt actually not suck?
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by Leland Roling on Dec 30, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem rolled right through Hunt as well. For such a big guy he really got overpowered.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Dec 30, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem still has a distinct reach advantage over Hunt, and Overeem’s Muay Thai, while unutilized at times during his career, is devastating since he has such height size. Honestly, Overeem could legitimately turn his career around and be a crusher. It doesn’t surprise me that he killed Hunt.
Overeem’s biggest problem in his career has been his gas tank. If he can improve that, I’d give him a great chance at turning it around.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 30, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hunt also took Overeem down, and Overeem has great submissions.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 30, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UM
you didn’t watch that fight did you? Hunt threw Overeem to the ground like a ragdoll but got caught with the armbar.
by skwirrl on Dec 30, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I aluded to how quickly Overeem put the kumura on Hunt. You’d think a keylock/kimura would be the last thing a guy with that size differential would get caught in.
Of course I watched the fight. I watched both Grand Prix’s on HDNet!
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Dec 31, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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