CompuStrike on Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira

by Luke Thomas on Dec 29, 2008 1:46 PM EST in News Comment 20 comments

Inside The Numbers: Mir’s standup game the surprise of the night. He set the pace from the opening bell, throwing 86 total strikes in round one. He landed a combined 32 arm and leg strikes in the round to just 10 for Nogueira, who was knocked down twice.

Overall stats for the fight:

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Mir		Nogueira
57/119	Total Strikes Landed/Thrown	19/60
48%	Percentage	32%

30/74	Total Arm Strikes Landed/Thrown	12/50
41%	Percentage	24%
29	Power Strikes Landed	9
1	Clinch Strikes Landed	3

12/17	Total Leg Strikes Landed/Thrown	3/4
71%	Percentage	75%
10	Kicks Landed	2
2	Knees Landed	1

15/28	Ground Strikes Landed/Thrown	4/6
54%	Percentage	67%

1	Takedowns	0
0	Submission Attempts	0
0	Reversals	0
0	Dominant Positions	0

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Great stats, but hard to see with the colours

by Tra Telligman's Pec on Dec 29, 2008 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Trying to fix it.

by Luke Thomas on Dec 29, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn’t Nogueira knocked down three times? Or did the one right at the bell of the first round not count?

by Tra Telligman's Pec on Dec 29, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that’s what I thought too.

by Kierkegaard on Dec 29, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Basically this was a one sided fight. “Ok Nog, you stand here and Frank is gonna hit you over and over. All you have to do is stand here and look tough and confused.”

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Dec 29, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

My DVR malfunctioned

or something and this did not record, but I am dumbfounded as to how this turned into a standup war.

by dnevil001 on Dec 29, 2008 2:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

See, I sort of expected the other way around. I expected this to be a standup war because I expected their BJJ to nulify one another, but I expected Nog to surprise Mir with it, not the other way around. You should be able to find the video online if you haven’t already done so.

by pud333 on Dec 29, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well,

I meant that I thought it would be a standup fight but did not anticipate either one being stopped by strikes.

by dnevil001 on Dec 29, 2008 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Worst color scheme ever.

by The_Vig on Dec 29, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

CompuStrike stats

thanks for adjusting the colors on the CompuStrike stats. The boxes were designed for a black background, as seen on CompuStrike.com….Bob Canobbio

by compubox on Dec 29, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What’s funny is that it appeared even more one-sided that those stats make it look. I’ve heard people say that they thought that the stoppage was early, but watching Nog stagger and wobble after the fight tells me that he was done.

So on to Mir vs. Lesnar: Mir has clearly improved his striking game enough to beat a better striker than Lesnar, and his conditioning looked good enough to last 5 rounds. Add to that the fact that he’s got far better jits than Brock and the only thing on Lesnar’s side is size/strength.

So here’s my question: men, by virtue of that joy that is testosterone, keep muscle mass around even without much effort. But having packed all that muscle on with steroids, how much will Brock be losing by quitting? He’s already been looking softer than he did in his wrestling days, even on the day of weigh-ins where he’s at his absolute trimmest. Will he keep that size and strength indefinitely? Or will years of NOT doing roids eventually bring him down to looking more like a regular person?

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Dec 29, 2008 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You forget the key

Lesnar is fast! I think that Brock’s size and strength coupled with his speed and athleticism will nulify Mir’s improved striking and BJJ. I hope I am wrong but I think Mir caught Lesanr making a mistake in their first meeting that he will not make again.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Dec 29, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I believe there is more truth

in your statement than you know.

Mir’s striking game was very one-directional. Fake left straight—>lead right uppercut—>left straight is not the type of approach that will work against someone looking to counter you – it leaves you waaay too open to counters from either side, since your head is traveling in a straight line. And while Mir’s striking was scary accurate, his hands didn’t look all that fast to me. Brock’s hands are at least as fast, and he packs a lot more punch.

For whatever reason, Nog was flinchy and kept jumping away from the uppercut, rather than throwing hard counters. People have brought up his potentially damaged field of vision as a reason, others his generally decreased coordination. I don’t know why he was so flinchy and gunshy. But I do know that even a guy like Randy would have been able to make Mir pay for his striking approach from 92.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Dec 29, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Loaded question

There is no proof he did steroids. He bulked up for looks in WWE. Now he has to train for endurance, speed, cardio, and strength while making the 265 lb limit. He should be more trim and lean.

As for Nogueira, he was knocked down 4 times. He lost the first round 10-8. The punch that made Herb Dean stop the fight, his head bounced backward into the ground. That usually signals KO but Nogueira recovered ala Chuck Liddell. He was done.

by cyph on Dec 29, 2008 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If anything he would have been doing HGH and not steroids anyways.

I don’t believe he did either of them though. And I agree with the weight lifting theory.

by DirtyML on Dec 29, 2008 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The ONE time that Lesnar was formally accused of possessing PED’s, the case was dismissed.

As far as I’m concerned, innocent until proven guilty. And that includes opinion.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Dec 29, 2008 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, people aren’t allowed to have an opinion that he did steroids? You live in a strange world, friend.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Dec 30, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Where has this been?

Hey great stat display. Could we get these on every fight?

by Wookalarman on Dec 29, 2008 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i found it funny how Mir said that he wanted to break nog’s limbs but he didnt want anything to do with Nog’s guard haha..
I thought it was an easy win for Nog since i thought Mir’s plan was to grapple with him, but mir did the right thing.
I was thinking that the only chance for Lesnar to win against nog was to Knockhim down, let him up, knock him down and let him up.. then only go to the ground to pound him out when he gets really really rocked and force the ref to stop the zombie from getting up again.

Mir did just that and won, now its time to see Lesnar pound out mir again..

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by Anton Tabuena on Dec 30, 2008 1:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

And then get submitted again, Frank Mir has never looked better and Brock won’t be able to handle his submissions Lesnar one day will be great but it’s not that time yet.

by Raker on Dec 30, 2008 6:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs