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Phillipe Nover and Vinicius Magalhaes: Boom or Bust Prospects?

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We have all seen what winning the Ultimate Fighter can do for a fighter. It has produced 2 champions (Serra, Forrest), has seen 3 winners get a shot to fight for the title (Stevenson, Cote and Evans) it helps a fighter get huge name power (Bisping, Sanchez, Diaz) and it just proves that if you win the Ultimate Fighter more than good things are bound for you if you put it together.

The combined records of the Ultimate Fighter winners since the clinched the championship of The Ultimate fighter is an outstanding 31-14 with Travis Lutter being the only TUF winner not to win a bout. Every fighter minus Matt Serra and Mac Danzig (1-1) has a fighting record better than .500.

But let's take a look at the runner-ups to the crown of The Ultimate Fighter:

  • Season 1 Combined W/L Record: 14-3 (Bonnar/Kenflo)
  • Season 2 Combined W/L Record: 3-5 (Cummo/Imes)
  • Season 3 Combined W/L Record: 3-5 (Herman/Hayes)
  • Season4 Combined W/L Record: 9-4 (Cote/Lytle)
  • Season 5 W/L Record: 2-1 (Man Gam)
  • Season 6 W/L Record: 0-1 (Speer)
  • Season 7 W/L Record: 1-0 (CB)

If you take out the W/L of season 1 (14-3) and the W/L of Season 4 (9-4) you get acombined record from seasons 2,3,5,6 and 7 of 9-12. Also take a look at Brad Imes, Josh Haynes and Tommy Speer. All of them are 100% out of the UFC and Tommy Speer has since retired from the sport to work on his farm.

Now, with the Ultimate Fighter 8 show and winners in the wrap, that leaves Nover and Magalhaes in the "Boom or Bust" type of situation.

Phillipe Nover might just be the best UFC prospect right now. His striking is dangerous and his ground is a black belt caliber. The sky is too short of the limit for Phillipe Nover. But how will he rebound from his lost? Will he be able to go back to the way he was in the house and defeat fighters with his incredible knockout power? Or will he show that his ability to stuff a takedown hurt him in a long run, with a division that is stacked with some of the best 155 wrestlers in the world.

Vinny Magalahes is blessed with incredible brazilian jiu-jitsu. His BJJ is bar none a top 10 in the world, but can it translate in the UFC? You can be a fantastic BJJ grappler, but that does not mean you are a certified MMA fighter. As seen last night, Vinny's jaw is a huge question, his record now stands at 3-3 (.500) overall. Vinny can be his worst enemy as most fighters, because when he decides he wants to stand and band instead of taking the fight to his world, will Vinny's extreme cockiness get the best of him?

So, after TUF 8 has finished up, will Phillipe Nover be the next KenFlo and just show why he deserves to be in the UFC and why he was the man that was feared in the house? Or will he turn out to be a 0-2, 0-3, 1-3 and done with the UFC faster than you can say Tommy Speer?

What about Vinny? He has the ground game to make it all the way, but the fight always starts standing, and the level of fighters in possibly the most stacked division is so deep, can Vinny tread through the waters and establish a name for himself, or will he become the Next Brad Imes or Josh Haynes, and quickly find yourself looking for a fight in a smaller organization.

So the question I leave to you guys is, will these guys be a boom or bust prospect? The question lies within.

                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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