The Ultimate Fighter 8 Finale Live Results
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 7:13 PM EST
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As always, we're here to take you through the action of a major MMA show. Starting with the Spike TV broadcast I will be here bringing you live results and thoughts on UFC: Ultimate Fighter Finale.
Please participate in the comment thread and share your thoughts on the action as it unfolds.
We do ask that you adhere to our one standard rule. No discussion in the comments of any undercard fights until after they are shown or the broadcast ends. We do not want to spoil any fights that may make the air for anyone.
So join us, watch the fights, and share your thoughts. And don't be afraid to get some discussion going before the show kicks off (just not spoilers).
Finally I ask that you all send out positive energy toward Vegas so that we might see Dave Kaplan pull a Ralphie Parker to Junie Browning's Scut Farkus.
9:00pm Eastern and it is showtime. First fight up shortly... Goldie launches the show plugging that you can still donate to the fight for the troops fund and I don't fault them for still pushing it.
A brief clip of Junie is shown before the commercial as he says "I believe I am the main event, the other fighters just don't know it yet." The kid keeps his schtick up well but seriously I don't dig HOW hard they're pushing him down our throats at this point. Anyway, his fight is up first...so at least it should be gotten out of the way unless he cries during the fight or something.
Junie Browning vs. Dave Kaplan - Gets us going. Junie explains that people will stop "judging him on his character and on the way he behaves" which of course is what every man should be raised to believe "It is not the content of your character but rather how well you fight." Junie comes out to old Eminem...which makes his entrance music about as fresh as his act. Round 1 - Junie with a low blow to start things off. He was trying to stay outside while Kaplan stalked but they're getting back into it. Low kick from Kaplan lands. Nice combinations now from Junie as he is starting to pick Kaplan apart from outside. Kaplan has blood around his eye now. Flying knee lands as do some more shots. Junie falls looking for a kick and Kaplan looks for a leg lock but Junie gets out. Junie takes Dave's back now but Dave gets back to his feet. Four punch combo lands for Junie. Goldie and Rogan are in LOVE with Junie here. Kaplan with a solid right hand and he closes distance and gets a takedown. Leg lock attempt again fails and he gives up position. They stand and Junie with a takedown. Junie takes Dave's back again, the choke is in but Kaplan pulls it out and turns back to top position. They're back to standing and exchanging shots. Round 1 ends and both myself and Mike Fagan have the first round 10-9 Browning on our respective cards. Round 2 -Right hand from Kaplan. Junie with the shot and takedown. Junie is trying to pass out of half guard now but no luck so far. As I type that Junie passes to side control. Steps over for an armbar and it is locked up. Kaplan has to tap out and it's all over. Junie Browning wins by submission (armbar) round 2. Hope you guys are ready for three years of hearing about how great he is and how much he has turned his life around as Junie runs through low level guys like Kaplan. We get even more "you can't be upset with him tonight" talk as he "walks the right line" because he apologizes to Frank Mir. So now we have "proof" that he has turned it all around.
They're talking to Kevin James as he plugs his newest crappy movie...in this one he's a MALL COP! I can't wait. I'm so glad that we're not watching fights right now. Damn am I in a salty mood tonight.
Eliot Marshall vs. Jules Bruchez - Undercard action Round 1 - Big shots from Eliot to get things going, then a big takedown, Jules gives up his back and Eliot starts sinking in the choke. Finally the elbow goes under the chin and Jules has to tap out. Eliot Marshall wins by submission (Rear Naked Choke) round 1.
Wilson Gouveia at vs. Jason MacDonald - Time for a fight! Round 1 - Right hand from Gouveia but MacDonald comes in and goes for a single leg and after about thirty seconds is able to finish but Gouveia stands up quickly. They break and are back in the center and MacDonald eats a right hand and a hard leg kick. Gouvia lands a few shots and drops MacDonald. Gouveia follows him down and is landing a barrage of elbows. MacDonald went down from a left jab it looks like. The elbows force the stoppage. Wilson Gouveia wins by TKO (strikes) round 1. MacDonald got busted up and cut badly but you have to wonder how much cred Gouveia gets when he came in so heavy.
Kevin Burns vs. Anthony Johnson - Protect your eyes AJ... Round 1 -Low kick from Johnson. Burns with a nice body kick. Left hand from Burns now. Johnson with a jab now. Big takedown from Johnson as he ducks under one of Burns' punches. Big shot from Johnson lands and he passes to side control off of it. "Upside down triangle" from Burns now but Johnson pulls out. Burns is staying active on the bottom but Johnson postures up and lands a few punches. Mario stands the fighters back up. Right hand by Burns and a right hand returns from Johnson as he catches a Burns kick. Burns is now on his back eating some kicks to the leg. Big body kick from Johnson and a solid flurry to end the round. 10-9 Johnson on Brent's card and 10-9 Johnson on the card of Mike Fagan. Round 2 - Great body kick from Johnson early and that is a money strike for him tonight. Johnson looks for the single leg and gets it. Burns is looking for the kimura from the half guard now but Johnson is fine. Elbows from Johnson land solidly. Burns keeps working a high guard but Johnson has avoided too much danger so far. Johnson now is working body shots to open the head and it's working well. Some more very big elbows land to the chin of Burns. This round is much more one sided than the first so far. Burns tries for an armbar and eats two big hammerfists in return. Both Brent Brookhouse and Mike Fagan score the round 10-9 Johnson putting the fight on both cards at 20-18 Johnson. Round 3 - Jab by Johnson was stuff. Left hand by Johnson lands solid and looked like it hurt Burns and OH MY GOD! WHAT A HIGH KICK! BURNS IS OUT! Anthony Johnson wins by KO (head kick) round 3. Johnson with a beautiful KO!
Ryan Bader vs. Vinicius Magalhaes - Round 1 -Low kick from Bader and Vinny is trying to bait him into getting close. Right hands land for both guys. Bader is working the leg kicks here. Right hand lands solid for Bader now. Vinny looks like his mouth is already open. Bader slips on a kick but gets up before Vinny can get on him. Right hand lands for Bader and Vinny is down. He covers up and takes a few more shots before the fight is stopped! Ryan Bader wins by TKO (punches) round 1. The punch that started it wasn't too solid as it glanced behind Vinny's ear, but the hammerfists once he was on the ground were the shots that sealed the deal.
Krzysztof Soszynski vs. Shane Primm - Round 1 - Left hand lands for Krzysztof and Primm gets a takedown. Shane isn't trying to do anything at all here and he lets Soszynski up. KS gets distance now and takes advantage of Primm's fairly crappy stand-up. Now they're back on the ground with KS on top but he bacs off so they go back to standing. Primm fights through more uppercuts but he looks gassed and also looks just awful when they're standing. Failed shot attempt from Primm and now KS is in side control. KS looks for an armlock but Primm defends well enough that Krzysztof has to give it up. 10-9 Krzysztof on the BE scorecard. Round 2 -High kick from Primm is blocked and Krzysztof lands some more punches. They're tied up and neither guy is doing much. But now as they separate KS lands a right hand. Primm is really trying his ass off here but he is getting slowly picked apart. They're on the ground. Krzysztof grabs a kimura and this time is able to finish it off. Primm taps out and looks hurt. Krzysztof Soszynski wins by submission (kimura) round 2.
Phillipe Nover vs. Efrain Escudero - This should be fun...don't sleep on Efrain here. Round 1 - Nover is throwing kicks early and Escudero answers with one of his own. Right hand by Phillipe but Efrain gets a takedown. Efrain puts him in the cage and as they stand up Efrain hurts him with a couple punches, Phillipe goes for the takedown and Efrain ends up on his back. Turns into full mount, Phillipe tries to get guard and eats some big shots. Efrain fell directly into a triangle attempt but they're back to standing now. Takedown for Efrain again. Back to standing again they go. Efrain with the takedown and then a big shot follows. He is DOMINATING the round. Back to standing they go yet again. Mike Fagan scores the round 10-9 Efrain as does Brent Brookhouse. Round 2 - Nover comes out swinging but Efrain just ducks under and gets a takedown right insto side control. Efrain is standing over Nover now throwing kicks to the leg and Nover finally stands up. Nover has double underhooks but hasn't been able to do anything with it yet. Efrain lands a right as they separate. Leg kicks are landing for Escudero now and he ducks under the strikes again looking for a single. Takedown for Efrain and he is in half guard. He's grinding away with punches and staying safely on top. They stand, Nover lands a body kick but Efrain answers with a big slam as time expires. 10-9 round on both Mike and Brent's scorecards. Round 3 - Nover throwing kicks again and he lands a nice hook but Efrain just pushes forward and gets a takedown. They go back to standing and Nover has to do something here. Two jabs land for Nover now. Kick lands for Nover but again he pays for it with a takedown by Escudero. Nover is looking for an omoplata now and is elbowing Efrain's shoulder. One minute left and it's all coming down to if this submission gets finished or not. Nover almost has it but Efrain escapes. 10-9 Nover on Brent and Mike's cards. Both unofficial BloodyElbow scorecards have the fight 29-28 for Efrain Escudero. Official Scorecards: 29-28, 29-28, 29-28 all for Efrain Escudero. Efrain Escudero wins by unanimous decision. Why didn't I stick with my gut here. I talked a lot about how Escudero is getting overlooked and slept on...but still picked Nover. Ah regrets...
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There is nothing...
I hate more than the ass end of these finale cards though. 2 guys who are ungodly bad getting a crack at each other…not for me man. Not for me. But the majority of the card should feature some pretty solid fights.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Unlike past seasons, I think the spots on the card are warranted – and not because of talent. Giving a guy a spot in a prelim fight is the least Dana can do after the guy suffered 6 weeks in a house with piss drinking, jizz drinking, and Junie Browning’s antics. It’s like saying, “Hey, sorry you had to put up with that shit. As a consolation, we’re going to let you cage fight this once.”
Complain all you want about the house antics...
But a lot of these guys are legit prospects and have a good chance at a well rounded MMA career. I can’t wait for tonight!!!!!
can’t agree with that. the four guys in the finale have a legit shot, as does krysztof. other than that, junie has a shot based on his quasi-celebrity meaning he’s going to have to be learning quickly at xtreme couture if he wants to make the most out of it. tom lawlor seemed like the type of big athletic guy who could be molded into a good fighter if he does the right things. other than that, i don’t think any of these guys will have any type of length careers in the ufc.
For some reason I think Junie could be a pretty good fighter if he would cut the shit, and take what he’s doing seriously. I could be completely wrong. I may be a dreamer, but I wish he would do more with his minor stardom than act like a degenerate.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Only 3 of these guys even have a chance at log term success in the UFC IMO (if they improve obviously) and that is vinny, nover, and bader.
Nover obviously because his striking looks really legit and powerful, and his bjj looks solid.
Vinny obviously because his BJJ is crazy good in a division without any BJJ wizards like he is. But, of course, his wrestling and striking need vast improvement… and who knows if he can take a shot in the face.
Bader because he seems big and strong and he can wrestle lol. Their seems to be one of these types in every division. Obviously needs work on his stand up. But he has potential based on his wrestling.
Efrain really seems to small to me and his wrestling does not seem that “explosive” if that makes any sense. ANd his striking looked like crap. Krystof is average… his record is average. He may be kept around as a fight night card guy based on being on TUF, but I don’ t think he will amount to anything special. Marshall will be the same way.
this is just IMO of course. We see so little of these guys on the show.
As you'll see on the staff picks...
I don’t buy for a damn second this weird Krzysztof love that sprung up with the show. The guy was a marginal fighter in the IFL and I’m not really sure why all of a sudden he is getting this “potential star” treatment. I don’t see the guy as being likely to be able to hang out in the UFC for very long at even a gatekeeper level. I think he wins tonight easily but beyond that…not so much.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
That is a great point. I like Krystof and hope he does well, but his game is not very well rounded.
I do however think they set him and Eliot up with very winnable fights in order to keep them in teh UFC and see how they progress.
I still think Eliot has the best skill set currently, of the lhws, but not the best at any one thing.
BJJ-Vinny is a wizard. Eliot is a very good Black Belt. Krystof has heard of BJJ. Bader has not, lol.
Striking-Krystof probably has the best. Eliot is improving and pretty sound. Bader is about the same. Vinny has some kicks, but doesn’t like to exchange.
Wrestling-Bader of course. Krystof of Team Quest. Not sure about Vinny. Eliot never wrestled, even in HS, but is working with guys like Rashad and GSP at Jackson’s.
As I have said before, I think we will see bader, Vinny, Eliot, Krystof, Nover, Efrain, Shane Nelson and unfortunately Junie, multiple times in the UFC.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
I really like...
Eliot’s skillset. I didn’t like how he fought Bader…but he seems more than willing to accept the things he did wrong….and that’s a start. So yeah I think you’re right there.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I really wish he hadn’t called out Bader, and been able to fight in the final, but I do respect him for doing it. The problem I see, is his lack of a wrestling background and the UFC is full of big, strong wrestlers.
As much as I am for Eliot, I wouldn’t have had a problem with any of the final four LHWs winning it all. I picked Bader to win before it started, so i guess i will stick with that, but there should be no doubt that Vinny can end a fight at any point during the 15 minutes.
Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
Yeah, Eliot’s got a lot of potential in the UFC. I think him and Bader (whether or not he wins tonight) are the best prospects to come out of the show’s LHW half.
by Rundownloser on Dec 13, 2008 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
agree about vinny
He’s good, not great and I don’t think he is gonna to hang around in the UFC. I was surprised to hear that a lot of people were expecting him to win the whole thing.
LoL:
John “Buckets of Blood” Polakowsk i…best nickname ever?
I hope its a good night of fights. Certainly has promise. But if “he who shall not be named” gets his destroyed it will be an early christmas present.
Vegas is where positive energy goes to die.
by Derek Suboticki on Dec 13, 2008 3:12 PM EST reply actions
Junie Browning
I really hope Junie is able to tone down his ways just a little. I am from Kentucky also and the last time a dude from Kentucky was on there he didn’t do well either. I just think that Junie could be a lot better than he is allowing himself to be. I hope Couture could help the kid out a little. Can’t wait to see Nover and Escudero go at it.
Support for Junie Browning
Like it or not MMA needs insane personalities….who doesn’t love to hate a heel?
Hmm…I haven’t watched a single episode of TUF this season. I guess tonight will be my first dose of Junie.
were there any black people in this season of TUF? I didnt watch all season but I am watching the episode on now and I don’t see any black people.
It struck me as kind of odd.
rashad evans brother made it to the first round of prelim fights to decide who goes into the house and didn’t make it (broke a rib I think?)
for some reason I wanna say there was one more but I dont remember
Antwain [sic?] Britt was also in the early runnings. Other than that, I honestly can’t remember anybody else.
by Rundownloser on Dec 13, 2008 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Antwain Britt made the house
but he broke his hand. Eliot Marshall is black or at least half black…. BJJDenver, he’s your teacher… wanna shed some light?
Rashad’s Lil Brother (can’t remember his name) vs Jason Guida…. lets see it.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Jason Guida makes Junie Browning look like Aristotle.
by Rundownloser on Dec 13, 2008 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
“Dude, I’m from the show-me state.”
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 8:18 PM EST reply actions
I have no compassion for someone who gets assaulted because they used their state’s motto in conversation.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
"If you seek a pleasant peninsula, look about you."
Yeah bitch! How’d that taste?!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Damn dude, I live in that peninsula and I feel like I just got burned
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Ha.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Damn Junie. Goldberg has already mentioned him twice during the last two cut-ins from the show. If fighting doesn’t work out (or even if it does), I can see him hosting some retardo Manswers-like show on Spike.
or G4, the retarded cousin of Spike.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Hey look, Junie is still cocky for no reason!
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I wish he’d cut all the other shit, because his smack is seriously funny.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, I believe he said something to that effect.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
bahaha, I think that was Kaplan
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Kaplan said he couldn’t be knocked out, lol.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
It will make his loss even more sweet.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
"Very unfortunate"
is how Goldie describes the Junie Browning events on the show. Rogan explains that this is why he is on the main card…so at least they’re not pretending it’s something it’s not….
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Sony finally does something right
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
for the first fight...yeah
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Kaplan looks like my cousin but with blonde hair
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Okay, with this intro, he's exactly like my cousin with blonde haire
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Eminem. :|
It’s like a bad night of white trash karaoke.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
as I said above...
his entrance music is about as fresh as his bullshit “bad boy” act
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
SHHHHHHHHHH!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
That was my impression of reality.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Junie actually has ground skills. :o
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
he needs to go for another leglock
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Kaplan looks ugly after 4 minutes.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
ugh, Junie is in the ufc. :/
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
You looked good on the show?!
REALLY JOE?! Seriously this is kind of disgusting at this point. The amount of “OH GOD! HE IS SO GREAT!” bullshit from the UFC is wearing on me
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:29 PM EST reply actions
I did think he looked pretty good standing. The thing is, he needs about 5 or 6 fights at a low level to hone his skills before fighting any UFC level guys.
by Michael Rome on Dec 13, 2008 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
In all fairness, they gave the same love to Paul Blartt.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
uninterrupted?
courtesy of Playstation? We need more of this sponsorship
Well Junie definitely improved between the show and now. Any chance he stops being a dipshit and actually has a quality MMA career?
I love the king of queens~
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He just gave away the ending of the movie.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:31 PM EST reply actions
Wasn't Kaplan
part of Lloyd Irvin’s school? That’s what Goldie said (who knows if it’s true then). But wouldn’t you guys have some sort of bias to the guy who can’t be knocked out?
Just saying…
I've got no Irvin bias...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
I can admit when I'm wrong...
Junie looked good…. thats what I get for placing a bet out of spite…. damn it.
Eliot Marshall looked better…. but against Jules, ehhhh
Same, kaplan sucking just cost me the betting game/
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Time for him to go back to work for the Monsta Lobsta…. stick w/ the cajun cookin bro
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Griffin has the belt and Bonnar is at Dave and Busters.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:39 PM EST reply actions
That midwestern accent is horrible… like nails on a chalk board
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
We don't have accents here in the midwest...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I was born and raised in Chicago till the age of 12
Yeah, in Chicago we do
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Bonnar has this weird minnesota mixed with George Lucas accent.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It has a hint of Wisconsin in it too
I know he has done a lot of training in Chicago, so that would explain it
Someone should ask him to say “Ditka”…. it will be painfully obvious then…
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
I had to move to Texas to get rid of it
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying people in Texas sound better than here in Chicago?
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
We’ve got a whole other type of accent in Texas.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
Thats what my uncles told me when I was told I talk too damn fast…
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed… it got that Chicago accent out of me, thats for sure
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
how do you mean? You wanted the shit talker and hijinx?
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Who could possibly give a shit about a bad fighter and his good attitude? At least I wanted to see him get punched in the face before. Now I don’t give a shit about him at all.
by Michael Rome on Dec 13, 2008 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Just another name on the roster now, huh?
No way he’ll ever contend for a title in my opinion.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t believe he’s through talking shit.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Wonder what Wilson’s excuse will be for coming in overweight. Is it just me or do a lot of ATT gys been missing weight lately.
who else has missed weight besides Alves?
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
With the way people have been trying to say that ATT is the best camp around…. you wouldn’t think two would be a lot…
I like Miletich’s comments about it on Inside MMA this week.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
“You will never hear about any of my fighters not making weight, we take that very seriously. Its disrespectful, but what can you do?”
Matt Hughes interrupted him and stated “Nothing you can do, you don’t fight… you don’t get paid… so what are ya gonna do? Say no I’m not gonna fight him?”
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
My picks were clearly posted for everyone to follow. Picking MacDonald after Kid Nate said Gouveia would be too much for him is just malpractice.
Yeah, as a bonus you would have had Kaplan, too, had you followed the picks of the Great KN.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Did MacDonald tap?
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Couldn't tell
I was typing a question to Kid Nate
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Goldie said something. Didn’t see anything on the replay.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Guess so.
Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
It's awful. Or so I've heard
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Well..the rest of the comics...
…were pretty great stories. So it makes sense.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well..
Frank Miller wrote the Sin City comic books which the movie were based on. And he is the director of The Spirit…so he can be forgiven any similarities in that respect.
Forgiven making a bad movie on an iconic character? Not so much.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Johnson by pirate eyepatch vengeance.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It’s a nagging injury he’s had…he can only throw kicks at groin level.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I still can’t believe the athletic commission never overturned that fight. How do you win via eyepoke? TKO (eye gouge)
If Johnson annihilates him...
Burns has a career in WWE waiting for him, they love that stuff…. just need to see how good he is with a chair.
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
maybe instead of “Rumble” he should go by the name “Lasik”
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Buffer aborted his turn : [
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:07 PM EST reply actions
Is Rumble training at AKA now? He’s had Josh Thomson in his corner for both Burns fights and they announced him as being from San Jose.
He’s not training in Denver too much anymore… so maybe he is
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
There’s your answer… suprised Cung Le has time to train him since he is so busy with his B Movie career…
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Was gonna type Rip
seems as gay to type as it is to say it
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
as long as we aren’t having to tell them apart by their receeding hair lines
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Now I get it.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
He has to cut easily with those cheekbones. I haven’t seen enough of his fights to judge that though.
I've seen him fight live a few times
His fights never lasted that long to really find out
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing like revenge for getting back at people.
by ricker2005 on Dec 13, 2008 10:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
KTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Bam.....now that was textbook
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
Good lord...that was SOLID
I mean..wow.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Has anyone ever had more...
Fitness mag covers than Frank Mir?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Is he pregnant in that pic?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
you win
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Griffin sucks at humor.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
But he tries SO HARD
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hard training camp..
I’d assume
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
hey… those hookers in Vegas don’t mess around…. don’t try writing them a check
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Frank...
admits to looking preggo previously…so he wins…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:31 PM EST reply actions
Mmm video game info.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:31 PM EST reply actions
For anyone that cares Sam Bradford won the Heisman.
So I have more of a reason to hope that Florida kills Oklahoma.
Well...
he deserves it and got my pretend vote…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, teblow didn't win.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Hardly.
Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.
by Richard Wade on Dec 14, 2008 3:05 AM EST up reply actions
He is right though, tap water is better
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He got a little weird...
toward the end there…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Where he talked about scribbling Nogueira’s name over and over in his notebook?
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
You would be too if you had Big Nog up next for ya… lol
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mir was portrayed on TUF as such a cocky SOB. He actually admitted this fight would be hard and showed some modesty. Will the real Mir please stand up?
he can’t, then the poo would start running down his leg
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
and Junie was sober and did not flip out, what is you point?
Being on the internet gives me a right...nay a responsibility to bitch about things
Since when is Lesnar doing harley commercials?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That dude’s for real too…although the Harley was CGI, he does have the world record for bench-press: 715lbs. He also benched 1008 lbs “equipped”.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Arby’s and sexual innuendo don’t work together.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:39 PM EST reply actions
Maghales by something insane
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
0-3 for me right now, I need a Vinny win
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I feel like they are pronouncing Magalhaes different each time.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:43 PM EST reply actions
That would be because they are...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yup…and there’s another variation by Goldie: “Magalaz”
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I love the pointless...
“and then he got into a thing with Junie”
Gotta get the Junie references up a bit…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:43 PM EST reply actions
No way Bader goes 15:00 w.o getting subbed. Vinny can pull of a sub in milliseconds. He better hope he can knock him out
I maintain...
that Vinny looks like he’ll gas if it goes more than 4 minutes.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
I know this, but I still have faith that he can flying triangle him or something
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I say: flying NRC…it’s possible. Think of the bunny in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
No sponsor shirt for bader?
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions
I’ve got to think that if Bader wins, it will be boring.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 10:46 PM EST reply actions
I didn’t see Maynard arm-triangle or KO anyone on TUF.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I just realized Bader’s music is a remix of the Imperial Theme from Star Wars.
He should ask George Lucas for a sponsorship deal.
Wow
She must be a very ugly woman with a lot of anger
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Shit, I was wrong. Bader knocked the crap out of Vinny.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 10:51 PM EST reply actions
Did he get him in the back of the head?
Congrats to Bader either way. I wanted Binny to win, but at least Bader didnt lay on him the whole time.
Replay showed, nope got him on the temple. Shame cause Vinny hit an AWESOME body shot earlier.
So all me betting game hopes are on Efrain. Fantastic
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I’m sorry…I know it was a typo, but that sentence was way cooler since it sounded like leprechaun.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Toldja...
it looked like Vinny had his mouth open after a minute on top of his crappy standup.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 10:54 PM EST reply actions
Who? I've missed the broadcast until now
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 13, 2008 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Rachelle Leah…. we’ve all seen her naked by now
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
I figured that was the reference – I’m halfway surprised she’s doing something at a UFC event.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 13, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
indeed
Women like that remind you that there is a god
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nog's smile is awesome
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Nog looks like he just won the lottery.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 10:56 PM EST reply actions
my niece throws hammer fists like that when she is squashing bugs
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Vinny quit.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 10:59 PM EST reply actions
that was an ok Power Bomb attempt there
I’ve seen worse
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Primm looks two weight classes smaller.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:05 PM EST reply actions
I noticed that too, he just looks awkward in there
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
And several skill levels worse...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
And according to wikipedia, Bad News Brown won a olympic bronze medal in judo. 80s WWF wrestlers ftw.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Bad News...
was a BAD man in real life. Like his judo was FOR REAL.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Bad News Allen...
god damn not calling the man by his right damn wrestling name. :(
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
He was Brown when I remember watching him ;)
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Primm’s standup is just bad. I don’t see how he’s lasted this long. Soszynski doesn’t look all that good, either.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:11 PM EST reply actions
Does Reese Andy really count as a UFC Veteran?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
You step in the cage for even a few seconds and yes you do
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Soukoudjou is going to be on CSI?
Not a fan of the show, but cool.
Just break it.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 11:12 PM EST reply actions
He would but...
he’s too busy jerking it to his own awesomeness while staring at his WEC belt
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I've been telling ya'll
Krzysztof should have blown him out in a few minutes if he were as good as everyone is making it sound. He’s overrated as hell for someone whose claim to fame is being a marginal IFL fighter.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure why he even got an invite on the show.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He belonged on the show...
but people are talking about him like he’s a lock to be a major star in the UFC and I just don’t get it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
He shares something with Brandon Vera, which isn't good.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Damn, I really wanna see Anthony Johnson get a chance against a guy like Karo, Koscheck, Serra, or someone else near the bottom of the 170 top 10. I think his skill set is going to cause a lot of problems for people in the future. Incredible head movement.
I agree...
he’s a major talent… very quick and a lot of power
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'd love to see him against Serra...
that’d be an interesting test for him and would increase his “cred” if he got the win.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I see him beating Serra. That’s a huge size difference.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
“I apologize”? What happened to “I’ve been waiting forever to do that to someone.”?
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It opens itself up to...
SO many jokes…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Polish Sausage
there was a polish experiment that went very well….. now, all those pollocks and the light bulb, thats another story
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention...
that there is such a thing as a failed experiment.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously…that sounds like something that was on my high school cafeteria’s menu.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well...that is obviously some hater behavior...
so he’ll be looking to hurt…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Rees is too busy...
he’s still searching for where he went wrong in his life…
by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t hate on Billy Kidd…he trains with the legendary Gary “IronBear” Myers who, when he’s not winning fights by “submission (headbutts)” can be seen at your local gay strip club.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Here is a question...
Does Jason McDonald get 20% of Gouveia’s purse if he were to get any of the fight o the night bonuses? (I know he won’t get any of them, but I’m curious)
Geez, enough with the fucked-up name pronunciations tonight. Efrain isn’t that unusual of a name. “EHF-REHN”, not “EHF-REE-AHN”.
Oh god...
they’re going with a different pronunciation for the highlight video.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s wait for Buffer to tell us how it really is pronounced.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm, I dunno. We all remember what happened the first few times that Buffer had to say “Miragliotta.”
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
They could just, I don’t know, ask the guy what his fucking name is. That might work. Shouldn’t somebody in the UFC stand up and suggest that?
But Goldie will just say it enough different ways that he’ll eventually stumble into the correct pronunciation.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me or did Philippe have a really easy road to the finals.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I believe Nover had to fight Joe Duarte in the prelims who was pegged as one of the potential winners. I may be wrong but I vaguely remember them fighting
The African Assassin
The Alaskan Assassin
The Young Assassin
The Silent Assassin
The Assassin
The Filipino Assassin
I’m still waiting on someone to pull out “Silent But Deadly”.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Kimbo Slice, The old guy assasin.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Nover's takedown D leaves something to be desired.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He is always threatening off of his back, though.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Efrain looks really sharp. This is a pretty good scrap.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:34 PM EST reply actions
10-9 to Efrain, but barely
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Barely?!
He dominated that round…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 13, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Nover landed some nice shots.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
...Then get taken down.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
If this ends by omoplata
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Tantrum kicks.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 13, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Efrain had a great gameplan. Nover needs some wrestling work, but I still say he’s got a bright future in the UFC.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:49 PM EST reply actions
Agreed. His other skills look good and he took a few hard shots and didn’t look affected tonight. Get him some wrestling training and he’s going to be really freaking good.
That division is stacked with serious wrestlers — Frank Edgar, Tyson Griffin, Gray Maynard, Kurt Pellegrino, Joe Stevenson, Jim Miller, Sean Sherk — Nover will be spending a lot of time on his back.
Nover’s got some impressive standup and really solid BJJ. I think he can still be a force with a little seasoning…and takedown defense improvement.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Efrain is almost a lesser sherk without t-rex boxing.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I haven’t seen Sherk pull off triangles and d’arces.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
He's done a few triangles IIRC.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Hmm, I see none on his fight-finder record.
I’d love to see him try with those squat little turkey drumsticks of his though ;)
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
He's done 1, look at sherdog.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I did…I see 2 arm triangles, but no regular triangles.
by Scott Haber on Dec 13, 2008 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Props to Efrain. The dude fought a great fight.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 11:53 PM EST reply actions
BADER and EFRAIN!!!!!
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VIVA MEXICOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!1
:P
Damn!
this week was the shite!!! 2 FREE great shows! UFC FTMFW!!!!!
Sorry guys, I’m a little drunk ;)
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