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BloodyElbow November MMA Meta-Rankings: Bantamweight

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1. Miguel Torres
175  WEC
2.  Brian Bowles 156
WEC
3. Masakatsu Ueda 150
Shooto
4. Atsushi Yamamoto 120
DREAM
5. Chase Beebe 119
WEC
6. Koetsu Okazaki 117
Shooto
7. Will Ribeiro 108
WEC
8. Takeya Mizugaki 107 GCM
9. Marcos Galvao 103 Shooto 
10. Manny Tapia 98 WEC
11. Norifumi Yamamoto 76 K-1
12. Rani Yahya 67 WEC
13. Yoshiro Maeda 65 WEC
14.  Antonio Banuelos 40 PalaceFC
15. Eduardo Dantas 39  Shooto Americas
16. Scott Jorgensen 37  WEC
17. Mark Oshiro 33 Icon Sport
18. Masakazu Imanari 33 DEEP
19.  Damacio Page 32 WEC
20. Wilson Reis 30 EliteXC
21. Jason Reinhardt 29 Iowa Challenge
 22. Daniel Lima 29 Shooto
23. Ian McCall 28 Total Combat
24. Bao Quach 28  Icon Sport
24. Dominic Cruz 28  WEC

Thanks to a question of JCS_FM's and a free afternoon of mine, BloodyElbow's Meta-Rankings will at least for this month contain bantamweight and (probably for just this month) flyweight rankings.

Only seven sites that I am familiar with rank bantamweights.  If you know of any others, please let me know in the comments.

Just like the featherweight division, bantamweight is largely dominated by the WEC.  Five of the top 10 and 10 of the top 25 are WEC fighters.

#1 Miguel Torres most recently dominated #10 Manny Tapia at WEC 37.  And #2 Brian Bowles submitted #7 Will Ribeiro.

The only other top 10 fighter to have competed recently is #8 Takeya Mizugaki who defeated unranked Masahiro Oishi.

#11 Norifumi Yamamoto (who is  #12 at featherweight thanks to splitting his rankings between weight classes) has not competed since last New Year's Eve when he defeated #12 Rani Yahya.

I'm afraid there's not much more for me to add, but if any of you do, I'd like to hear it.

NOTE: The Meta-Rankings are not the subjective opinion of the BloodyElbow team or myself, but rather a compilation of the rankings of over twenty leading MMA web sites. It is our opinion that these are the most informative MMA rankings anywhere.

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Based on the premise that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink. instead of putting up our own subjective fighter rankings, we compile and average the rankings of every source we could find online.

The goal is to show how the MMA community rates the fighters, not to bore you with our opinions.

Be sure and look at the points, they're a much more telling number than the ranking. There's clearly a huge gulf between the top 9 fighters and those that follow.

A total of 50 fighters were ranked in the top 25 by one source or another, for reasons of sanity I only track the top 25 (26 due to a tie) most highly rated fighters.

25 points are awarded for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. Fuller explanation below.

The normalization scheme as explained by JCS of FightMatrix  is here:

The "normalization number" (new name) would be:

120
divided by
(Total Fighters Found in Any List minus 10)

Every fighter found somewhere else, but on a Top 10 list would be assigned this number.

The "normalization" number would not apply to a fighter not found on a Top 25 list. They would simply get 0.

So the process would be:

Do all of the Top 25 lists first, #1 = 25, #2 = 24…. #24 = 2, #25 = 1
Do all of the Top 10 lists, same scoring structure.. stops at #10 = 16

Figure out that normalization variable.

Fill in the normalization variable to all fighters not found in the Top 10 lists, but found elsewhere.

Do your totals and rank.

The FanPosts are solely the subjective opinions of Bloody Elbow readers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Bloody Elbow editors or staff.

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Anyone have any idea why the “Send To Phone Send To Phone” at the bottom reappears after being deleted?

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 12, 2008 11:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know, but I went in and deleted it and it seems to have gone away. Nice work, Richard.

by Cannon Jacques on Dec 13, 2008 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks. I deleted and re-published several times to no effect.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 1:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is my question...

Ribeiro is 7 and he lost to Bowles…. Tapia is 10 and he lost to the champ….

There some sort of logic I’m missing here?

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 12:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Those aren’t their only fights?

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what you mean....

Those aren’t their only fights? Maybe Tapia getting dominated made him look worse than Rebeiro getting tapped by Bowles.

Chase Beebe… there is a guy I haven’t seen a lot of lately.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m saying perhaps Ribeiro’s entire resume is held in higher regard than Tapia’s. That they aren’t being just purely on their efforts at WEC 37.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 1:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

...being ranked just...

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 1:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beebe is fighting Mike Easton at UWC: Man O’ War in Fairfax, VA on February 21. If you can’t make the fight it’ll be streamed on Sherdog for free.

by Luke Thomas on Dec 13, 2008 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanx for the info Luke

I’ll check that out… the PFC stream Sherdog where Doug Marshall fought… its a pretty sweet deal.

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here is my question

Where do you rank Curran on this? Granted its his first fight at 135 but the guy was a tiny 145 lber and will make 135 easily. He’s been working on making it ever since his loss to Brown. I talked to him that night and said he was gonna drop all the way back then. That was over 6 months ago. Expect him to look good no matter who he fights

by skwirrl on Dec 13, 2008 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great job by the way on this man...

I’m gonna be YouTubin a lot of these guys… lol

Rec’d

by Gunslinger20 on Dec 13, 2008 12:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, same here. I’ve not seen probably half of these guys fight.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 12:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keep it up dude, this is great stuff and I can’t wait to see the flyweight meta-ranking (though I won’t be surprised if there just aren’t enough sets of rankings for one). Rec’d.

by Rundownloser on Dec 13, 2008 12:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

There really, really aren’t enough sites. I’ll get them up tomorrow night. I’m going out now and won’t be home until some time tomorrow night (or maybe Sunday afternoon).

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bantamweight rankings at mmarocks.pl

Hey Richard!

www.mmarocks.pl (polish premiere mma site ) ranks bantamweights

Here’s the direct link http://www.mmarocks.pl/?page_id=18

cheers

by Venom77 on Dec 13, 2008 8:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad set of rankings. Hell of a lot better than MMAVT, for sure.

by Rundownloser on Dec 13, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent.

Thank you.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Richard – a HUGE thanks from everyone at BE. Can you email me?

by Luke Thomas on Dec 13, 2008 11:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great work Richard!

For selfish reasons, I hope the WEC continues to pilfer top bantamweight fighters from Japan (i.e. so I don’t have to search the interwebs to see these cats fight).

by Estrada on Dec 13, 2008 11:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Same here.

I’d love to see more of these guys on my big screen instead of youtube.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just wanted to say thanks guys, for the work put into compiling these rankings. And to Richard, thanks for adding the lighter weights! I think this is where mma has a lot of potential to grow and build new stars. These rankings can give the fans a focal point to see what guys they should be looking for in classes tahtare just starting to get some recognition. Nice job!

Eliot Marshall: Bader won. Like I said in the episode, I'm not going to make any excuses. It's my job to be able to deal with when somebody's doing that. It's not his job to change up his tactics.

http://eliotmarshall.com/

by BJJDenver on Dec 13, 2008 11:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jason Reinhardt

is the epitome of why a purely mathematical system does not work.

by JCS_FM on Dec 13, 2008 12:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ryota Matsune

Hasn’t fought in over two years, yet made a list!

by JCS_FM on Dec 13, 2008 12:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, the dummies who ranked Matsune also ranked Akitoshi Hokazono in their top ten despite the fact that he hasn’t fought in over two years AND announced his retirement in January.

by ilostmydog on Dec 13, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And this sort of thing is worse when we have fewer ranking sites.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Miguel Torres

would get worked by Masakatsu Ueda.

by tylerdurden1 on Dec 13, 2008 12:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Make a list. Update it every month. Then your opinion will be included in the rankings.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 13, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And somehow Mark Oshiro is ranked way above Bao Quach despite Quach winning in their match-up.

by Luke Thomas on Dec 14, 2008 11:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Quach is still ranked at Featherweight by some sites.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 14, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WAMMA just released their first BW ranks the other day.

1. Miguel Torres
2. Brian Bowles
3. Masakatsu Ueda
4. Marcos Galvao
5. Takeya Mizugaki
6. Kouetsu Okazaki
7. Atsushi Yamamot
8. Masakzu Imanari
9 (tie). Will Ribeiro
9 (tie). Chase Beebe

Also receiving votes: Joseph Benavidez

by ilostmydog on Dec 18, 2008 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I hate the ties. It makes some of my columns a different width when I compile the rankings.

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Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Dec 19, 2008 6:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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