Adrenaline MMA II Results: Pat Miletich Wins by KO, MFS Fighters go 5-2
by Nick Thomas on Dec 12, 2008 7:28 AM EST
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PrintWW: Pat Miletich (29-7-2) def. Thomas Denny (26-18) via KO (Punches) at 0:50 of Round 2
HW: Ben Rothwell (30-6) def. Chris Guillen (13-12) via Submission (Strikes) at 3:40 of Round 1
HW: Michael Russow (11-1, 1 NC) def. Braden Bice (7-7) via Submission (North-South Choke) at 1:13 of Round 1
[UPDATE] Full results and notes by Chris Nelson:
LHW: Mike Ciesnolevicz (16-3) def. Derrick Mehmen (4-1) via Submission (Guillotine Choke) at 1:46 of Round 2
LW: Dan Loman (11-4) def. Gabe Lemley (13-8) via TKO (Strikes) at 1:54 of Round 2
MW: Ryan McGivern (13-6) def. Geno Roderick (7-7) via Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 1:27 of Round 1
LW: Pat Curran (5-1) def. Ramiro Hernandez, Jr. (1-1) via Decision (Unanimous; 30-27 x2, 29-28)
WW: Jesse Lennox (11-1) def. Ryan Williams (7-4) via Submission (Triangle Choke) at 3:41 of Round 1
NOTES
- MFS fighters went 5-2 on the night.
- Nothing much of note to report from Rothwell's return to the cage following his Affliction loss to Andrei Arlovski. He did exactly what he should have and dispatched of Guillen (who entered on a four-fight losing streak) quick and ugly. Guillen tapped from the turtle position following some elbows to the head. What the immediate future holds for Rothwell, I'm not sure. He won't be on Affliction's January show, though he says he's been promised a spot on their third card. Thankfully he's still young and has plenty of time to work back up to top competition.
- Please, HDNet production team, PLEASE do away with the video game style fighter attribute charts. They're ugly, arbitrary, and they're definitely not helping anyone understand anything.
- How do people feel about the ref asking fighters during instructions if they want to touch gloves when the bout starts? The fighters seemed put off every time Todd Fredrickson did it tonight.
- Jeff Curran's cousin is definitely a fighter to watch. Still a little wild in his striking and reckless on the ground, but he is relentless even when tired and throws with heavy power for a 155'er. He caught Hernandez in two near fight-ending armbars as both the first and second rounds expired.
- Something strange happened before the McGivern/Roderick match when the ref called both fighters to the center of the cage before the announcer had made the official introductions. Awkward. McGivern, incidentally, showed no rust in his first post-IFL bout.
- The usual comedy gold from Kenny Rice: jokes about putting his IFL gear on eBay... during a card filled with ex-Silverbacks, in a quarter-full arena. And which website/blog was he disparaging - something about posting phony medical info about Miletich before the fight?
- Braden Bice, in the holiday spirit, walked out to Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
- What was with the one sloppy, dangerous looking "Adrenaline MMA II" decal on the mat? And no one thought to turn off the flashing colored spotlight pointing down into the cage during the fight?
- P.J. Stoppleworth - congratulations, you win the award for best MMA ring announcer name of all time. Everyone else - please consider this man next time your voiceover needs call for a Southern accent, be it "mid/upper class," "redneck" or "hillbilly."
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hey Nick...
Andrew from SBN’s Male Pattern Fitness here. My journalist brother in law has a piece on MMA in The Atlantic this month…worth a look from you and your readers…http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200812/rampage
Cheers! Andrew
by Andrew Heffernan on Dec 12, 2008 1:12 AM EST reply actions
Hey Andrew...
we featured that article last week and also Luke Thomas (EIC of this site) had him on his radio show this past Saturday.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 12, 2008 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I had to change the channel...
after watching UFN last night and then tuning into this. I was just annoyed with everything from the cage, to the ref and to the announcer.
Yeah, the difference in skill level is stark. The fighters were equally matched, but two bad fighters still doesn’t make it watchable.
The fact that newly signed undefeated fighters got steam rolled by average UFC fighters really speaks volume of the disparity between the UFC and the regional shows.
Because some guy with a TKD background (can we stress that enough?) who was brought in to lose to one of their bigger prospects lost? I guess. Last time I saw that Al-Hussan he was buried in the undercard of a Mainstream MMA event televised on Sun Sports.
The UFC offered me Tim Credeur fighting some nobody and beating him and this show had Mike Ciesnolevicz. Far as I’m concerned, it was a push. The one positive with the mismatches was they were fast and had cool looking stuff like Russow’s power bomb.
What do you have against the UFC, D Cap?
Al-Hassan is an undefeated fighter with FOUR wins by submission. The guy is no chump and is clearly not just a stand up fighter.
Al-Hussan probably is a chump. No one knew who he was before and he got tapped in one round. I’d bet on Houston Alexander to beat him. As for UFN 16, well, the fights were generally more competitive but its not like most of those guys were good. Sub out the one legit top 10 fighter on the card with a Hall of Fame fighter/trainer and they were about as good as one another. Plus Adrenaline didn’t have long video pieces of brain damaged people.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Stay on topic, man. Hassan is a top fighter in a regional show. Do you agree? He was brought into the UFC as a top prospect and lost to an non-elite (for now) fighter in the UFC. Do you agree? Did anyone think he would get beaten that badly before he fought? No, but you like to make judgment based on hindsight. Stop it.
I’d say he wasn’t a top fighter in any major regional events nor a top prospect because he’s neither of those things. He was brought in to enhance a guy’s record and for people like you to say he was a top prospect. Silva succeeded. Really, the match making as a whole did, aside from Tim Credeur throwing sloppy punches en route to beating the undefeated prospect. I half expect him to fight Sonnen again, lose, and be back on the regional circuit where he belongs.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
I hate getting into arguments with you because you refuse to see anyone’s point of view except your own.
The fact that newly signed undefeated fighters got steam rolled by average UFC fighters really speaks volume of the disparity between the UFC and the regional shows.
There’s a lot more fighters in “regional events” (whatever those are classified as) than in the UFC. Sure, there’s no Jonathan Iveys under contract to Zuffa, but the lack thereof doesn’t make their fighters all world class either, nor does it mean that local events are totally lacking in talent compared to the UFC. It just means that Joe Silva is doing his job picking opponents.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Where did I say that there are no talented fighters in regional shows? I said there is a huge disparity in talent between UFC and regional shows. That is a fact and the FFTT results highlighted this fact. You like to argue for the sake of argument.
Everyone in the UFC except two guys built records on “regional shows”. The dudes who win you can co-opt into being “UFC Fighters” and the dudes that lost you can use as evidence, so its pretty silly to continue this.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
You are exasperating.
Please, don’t ever reply to me again. You just turned an innocent remark into a anti-UFC debate.
lol, yeah, sorry to point out the logic. The wide gap in talent between Ben Saunders and the Joey Villasenors and Jason Millers is just staggering in favor of the UFC.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Aren’t they inferior to the UFC too, cyph? Or is it tiered in their inferiority?
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
D Cap, if I didn’t know you better, I would think you’re a troll. I’ll give you what you want.
The UFC has inferior talent.
Their talent is comparable to regional shows.
The only reason their fighters look good is due to Joe Silva matchmaking.
Most fighters run to the UFC after they get run out of EliteXC, Affliction, and Dream.
You won the logic battle. Congratulations!
You don’t think that there’s a few (maybe even most?) comparable fighters out of the 130 or so contracted? If you’d like to bet on a theoretical Matt Arroyo/Josh Thomson-Mitsuhiro Ishida-Gilbert Melendez-KJ Noons bout, I’ll even give you 2-1 odds on Arroyo.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Did anyone think he would get beaten that badly?
Yes…me.
I think he picks Al-Hassan apart for a couple minutes before he launches a solid shot that stuns Razak. He’ll follow up with a few more strikes and that’ll be it. Cantwell by TKO, round 1.
not exactly the exact way it went…but I wasn’t giving Razak much of a shot at all.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 12, 2008 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Not much more needs to be said...
I’m brilliant…that is all ;)
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 12, 2008 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Every single prediction by the staff here was for Cantwell to finish inside of 2 rounds.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I’m nowhere near as impressed with Pat Curran. That was a guy he should have easily beaten and was in serious trouble against in a third round he probably shouldn’t have gotten to.
Overall, the show wasn’t bad. Curran/Hernandez and Lemley/Loman were both fairly decent scraps and Mehmen/Ciesnolevicz wasn’t half bad either. All the fights that were supposed to end early did. Plus, Pat Militech calling out Antonio Tarver. That’s always a hoot.
How did you not mention Lemley/Loman?
Lemly had the fight won after landing a powerful shot, Loman is down on the ground covering up and not defending himself but Lemly just throws one or two punches and walks away without the ref stopping it. So Loman is able to stand back up, ride out the round and come back for the TKO win in the second.
Bizarre behavior…
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 12, 2008 9:06 AM EST reply actions
That was bizarre indeed.
And Dan Loman is an odd duck.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 12, 2008 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think it was a miscommunication somewhere. It looked to me like he thought the fight was over, or at least was about to be and he was doing the sportsmanship thing and not pounding the downed guy.
Yeah...
but that’s why you stay on top and pound away until you feel the ref pulling you off. I mean…if he would have thrown shots with 5% of his power and just stayed busy he wins the fight in another 10 seconds.
And yeah…Loman is um…very strange. He seems almost punch drunk but I don’t think that is the case at all.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 12, 2008 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve met people like him before. Typically they really like video games or Magic The Gathering and date obese women.
by D.Capitated on Dec 12, 2008 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Yup
Guess it’s a lesson learned for the guy. I feel for him, but as you say – go until the ref says stop.
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