UFC "Fight for the Troops" Live Results - Josh Koscheck vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
by Brent Brookhouse
on Dec 10, 2008 7:38 PM EST
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As always, we're here to take you through the action of a major MMA show. Starting with the Spike TV broadcast I will be here bringing you live results and thoughts on UFC: Fight for the Troops headlined by Josh Koscheck vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida.
Please participate in the comment thread and share your thoughts on the action as it unfolds.
We do ask that you adhere to our one standard rule. No discussion in the comments of any undercard fights until after they are shown or the broadcast ends. We do not want to spoil any fights that may make the air for anyone.
So join us, watch the fights, and share your thoughts. And don't be afraid to get some discussion going before the show kicks off (just not spoilers). Early worm gets the worm.
The show is starting and I love the intro here SO much more than the gladiator intro for the pay-per-views.
Joe Rogan mentions the feeling you get with this crowd when the National Anthem goes on with this crowd. I find it odd that they wouldn't play the anthem while they were on the air.
They're doing a video package explaining the charity and the brain injury problem. I would like to take a minute to urge everyone to call or go to fightforthetroops.com to donate to this noble cause. Even if you only have $5 to give it would make me proud if our readers do what they can.
Jim Miller vs. Matt Wiman - Our first fight of the telecast and I would be willing to bet that this turns into a bit of a barnburner. Round 1 -Miller lands a left and is actually outstriking Wiman early. Nice right hand from Miller. He is beating Wiman outside and inside and now Wiman gets a hard takedown right into a deep guillotine. Miller rolls him and takes full mount. Wiman keeps grabing the shorts and getting warned but he is finally able to escape. I worry about the short notice and such a hard effort for a submission thought. Now Miller is in Wiman's guard landing punches and elbows. Wiman has a cut on the bridge of his nose and is getting beaten thoroughly. Miller makes a mistake and ends up on bottom but Wiman can't do anything and catches an upkick. They're back to standing and Wiman lands a right hook. They're both breathing pretty heavy now. Body kick from Miller and Wiman is hurt badly. Miller is gassed here...it's a torrid pace and he took this fight on such short notice. Superman punch glances off Wiman's head and the round ends. 10-9 round for Miller on the BE scorecard. Round 2 -Miller tries for the takedown but Wiman scrambles to get back up quickly. Combos are landing for Miller now and they clinch against the cage. Punch after punch from Miller now and Wiman is getting picked apart here. Single leg by Miller now and he is in Wiman's guard. Hammerfists from Miller now. Miller lands a big punch as he spins out of a leg lock attempt. Rogan and Goldie are saying that round 1 could be 10-8, but I don't think it was quite that bad. Wiman has no answer but to lay and eat the occasional shot from Miller. The round ends and it's another one sided 10-9 round for Miller on the BE card. Round 3 - Wiman is landing shots early but Miller gets the takedown to get out of trouble. Wiman gets back up and again lands a hook. Single leg by Miller though and the troops boo the ground action. I don't want to sound like a jerk...but this is a charity show for veterans...so maybe be nice to the guys putting on the show for you. This isn't a snoozefest or anything. Wiman is controlling Miller's hips well and isn't taking much damage now and as I type that Miller lands a nice right and passes to side control. Wiman does a nice job of getting him back to full guard and they stand. Wiman lands a knee and Miller takes him right back down. Miller is obviously gassed this rround and just needs to hang on. Wiman gets up tries a takedown and Miller slickly takes his back directly off of the takedown. Miller has his back but looks too tired to do much with it. Wiman grabs Millers glove and gets a warning but says "i'm not" Miller goes for a full mount but Wiman prevents it. The round ends and it's a much closer round but the majority of the action was Miller on top and getting takedowns. Wiman landed a few punches but he lost the fight. 30-27 on the BE card. Official Scorecards -30-27x2, 30-26 across the board. Jim Miller wins by unanimous decision. Very impressive performance for a guy taking a fight on a weeks notice.
Tim Creduer vs. Nate Loughran - Round 1- Low kick from Loughran catches Creduer low. Right hand lands solid for Creduer. Left/right lands for Tim now. Stupidly wide left hook misses for Tim now. Rogan points out what I was thinking...Creduer needs to learn to keep his chin down when he lets his hands go. They're pressed against the fence with no real damage. Body kick from Loughran. Right hand lands for Loughran. Right hand now from Tim. Left hook lands for Nate now. Sloppy kickboxing match here early. Overhand right for Tim lands as does a leg kick. Tim's best work is probably the leg kicks, the technique on his punches is so bad that he is losing a lot of power on them. Another big right hand lands and now Creduer throws some short power shots that looked like they hurt Nate more than any of the looping shots and the round ends. 10-9 Creduer. Round 2 - Creduer avoids a takedown attempt and it is Tim that ends up on top. Nate has a bad cut over his left eye. It will likely be what stops this fight, it's a bad spot. Nate is throwing up sloppy armbar attempts and Tim passes to half guard but Nate gets it back to full guard. They're stood up after a lack of action on the ground and it's back to bad kickboxing. Eye poke but no stoppage so Loughran tries to pounce on a one eyed Tim. Back to standing at distance throwing punches like you'd see outside a night club. Every time Tim lands a short punch he hurts Nate but he insists on throwing looping shots instead of staying short and compact. They stop the fight as Nate is on his stool holding his rib. Rogan says he thinks it was a broken rib. They show Nate in his corner saying he was done. Doesn't look like an injury..he just quit on the stool. Tim Creduer wins by TKO (verbal submission) at 5:00 of Round 2.
Steve Cantwell vs. Razak Al-Hassan - Round 1 - Al-Hassan comes out quickly with jabs and kicks and Cantwell is circling. Body kick from Hassan who is keeping his chin away from his body...that's going to end with him asleep on the mat I figure. Uppercut lands for Cantwell. Uppercut and a knee from Hassan in the clinch. Left hook from Cantwell lands but it was loopy. Razak is winning the round on pressure if nothing else right now. Left hook lands for Cantwell again. A nice shot lands for Cantwell and Hassan looks for a takedown which Cantwell reverses and ends up on top. Cantwell passes to side control with ease. He can steal the round with a little work here. Now Cantwell to the full mount. Hassan gave up an arm and the armbar is deep. Hasaan's arm looks like it broke and Yamasaki jumps in. Steve Cantwell wins by TKO (armbar/injury/ref stoppage) round 1.
Mike Swick vs. Jonathan Goulet - Round 1 - Swick comes out aggressive and drops goulet after about 24 seconds. Shot after shot lands and Big Dan jumps in to save him. Any more questions about Goulet's chin? Jonathan is still out, twitching and his eyes are rolled back in his head. Nasty stuff. Mike Swick wins by KO round 1.
Ben Saunders vs. Brandon Wolff - Undercard action! Round 1 - Low kick from Saunders early. They restart and Saunders lands somewhere around 40 knees from the clinch, then backs off for a high kick then back to the chlinch with a good 30-40 more knees. It's a sick body and head attack with the knees and Wolff is bloody and swolen...the fight should probably have been stopped a good 30 seconds ago but it is finally stopped and Wolff is an absolute mess. WOW, what a beat down. Ben Saunders wins by TKO, round 1.
Yoshiyuki Yoshida vs. Josh Koscheck - I get showing the intros for the main event fighters but I wish they'd skip it just to increase the odds of getting another undercard scrap on the broadcast. Round 1 - Yoshida is looking like he wants to throw low kicks here and keep distance and Koscheck is looking happy to play the striking game. Right hand lands for Koscheck....and another about 20 seconds later, this one drawing blood from Yoshida's ear. Right hand lands for Koscheck and Yoshida looked out on his feet and another HUGE right lands and Yoshida goes stiff. What a BEAUTIFUL and BRUTAL KO. Josh Koscheck wins by KO, round 1. Yoshida was as close to unconcious as you can be while still on your feet before eating that second shot. Wow...
Steve Bruno vs. Johnny Rees - Undercard action. Round 1 - boos from the fans early which again I say is kind of shady considering it's a charity show for a millitary cause. Rees is looking for a takedown but can't do much with it early. Body kick from Rees is caught and Bruno takes him down. Big downward punch and a pass to side control. North-south position and now Bruno takes his back. Back to half guard and more booing and "stand up" from the crowd. Bruno takes his back again. The ref restarts them when Bruno has his back standing and now Rees is landing shots. That was such a dumb restart. I sincerely hope the refs (I didn't catch who is reffing this fight) are having their fight's reviewed and aren't just getting automatically brought back for another event. "Come on do somethin' man" from the ref as there is active work being done. 10-9 for Bruno for me. Round 2 -Bruno grabs a body lock and is looking for a trip but instead takes Rees' back standing. Rees is looking for a Sakuraba-esque kimura but has to let it go. The ref is reacting to the crowd booing which is why he is pressing for action so hard. Restart again as they were working on the cage. Rees connects with an uppercut and they're back against the cage, now Rees is looking for a double despite his corner telling him "no takedowns." As Rees is working for the takedown there is a "come on men" from the ref. Uppercuts land for Rees and Bruno grabs a takedown. Bruno takes his back standing again and this time sinks the choke deep as they go to the ground and Rees has to tap. Steve Bruno wins by submission (rear naked choke) round 2. I think I heard someone say "was that an armbar" after the fight ended.
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Free fight nights always make work a little easier to get through…
by Chris Nelson on
Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM EST
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Yes they do!
I’m stuck here until 10 tonight for the holidays, but fight night makes the night go by easier! Another reason to have DVR!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 6:13 PM EST
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buzzed and commented!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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thanks ya'll!
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 6:54 PM EST
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I don’t like his chances but I really hope Yoshida can win this one. The interview at Sherdog was pretty good, I’m a fan now.
by pr0cs on
Dec 10, 2008 1:53 PM EST
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Does anyone else think that Yoshida could pass for Charles Bronson if he was given a denim shirt and grew a black Porn Stache?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on
Dec 10, 2008 2:09 PM EST
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that made me laugh
Being on the internet gives me a right...nay a responsibility to bitch about things
by beery_pbr on
Dec 10, 2008 3:05 PM EST
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now I can’t get the mental image of Yoshida shooting hippies out of my head
Being on the internet gives me a right...nay a responsibility to bitch about things
by beery_pbr on
Dec 10, 2008 3:09 PM EST
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this shoudl be a classic kos “td, decent gnp, repeat” victor for kos unfortunately
by dbcb on
Dec 10, 2008 2:14 PM EST
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I really...
wanted to end this with another movie quote after how the Tombstone quote got things going nuts for the WEC show. but I just couldn’t settle on any one specific quote.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 2:42 PM EST
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there...
I added a TV quote this time….rather than going with movies
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 2:54 PM EST
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ha!
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 2:51 PM EST
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And if I see Van Helsing, I swear to the lord I’ll slay him.
by szucconi on
Dec 10, 2008 3:10 PM EST
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You don’t need to put your P in a V right now.
No, I need to B my L on someone’s T’s.
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 3:11 PM EST
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Why would god put a playground right next to a sewage treatment plant?
by szucconi on
Dec 10, 2008 3:21 PM EST
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I swear to god...
I would go see that puppet show…like for real…I’d be there.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 3:41 PM EST
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I heard you can make things come true if you think on them long enough...
I’m gonna win the betting game
I’m gonna win the betting game
I’m gonna win the betting game
I’m gonna win the betting game
by IHateMMA on
Dec 10, 2008 2:46 PM EST
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Added the weigh-in video… feel free to remove before you start =)
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 2:55 PM EST
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Whoa, embeddable vids?
Welcome to 2005, UFC
by smoogy on
Dec 10, 2008 3:46 PM EST
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Betting Game
How do you play the betting game? Do any of you do the UFC fantasy game? I have been doing it for a while now and its really cool.
by Wookalarman on
Dec 10, 2008 3:05 PM EST
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I don’t know anything about the betting game, but I know all there is to know about the Crying Game.
by The_Vig on
Dec 10, 2008 3:47 PM EST
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… don’t spoil it for me. I’ve been meaning to watch it, and that chick in it looks pretty hot …
Wat?
by Kierkegaard on
Dec 10, 2008 3:56 PM EST
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And I don’t have any homework to do so I don’t have to miss another mid-week MMA event.
:) Awesome.
by Tonley on
Dec 10, 2008 3:54 PM EST
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MMAmania.com: What are your thoughts on Yoshida … have you seen any of his fights?
Josh Koscheck: I’ve actually never seen him fight. I haven’t watched any film on him at all. I’m not really focused on what he does or what he can do — I just focus on what I have to do to win this fight.
That frame of thought is just so foreign and weird to me.
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 4:32 PM EST
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there are some guys...
who only train their gameplan and want to force it and worry that trying to adjust it to deal with a specific person they aren’t able to be fully effective. I believe in gameplanning specifically for your opponent…but some people do better just working their game with no regard for who they’re facing
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 4:36 PM EST
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I think its a wrestling thing. All you need is one takedown and if you are good enough and drill it enough and perfect it that you can get it to work on anyone. I tend to think its a load of crap, but I have seen it be effective. I would watch a fight maybe to just see what he likes to do and how he reacts to stuff I like to do. How is that info, even if you don’t change your training, going to hurt you?
by szucconi on
Dec 10, 2008 4:46 PM EST
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agreed...
I think vintage Matt Hughes was probably the best example of a guy who wasn’t adjusting his gameplan because he did it so well that you had to figure out a way to beat him..not vice versa.
But yeah, you probably should at least watch some tape. That is odd to me as well
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 4:48 PM EST
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Definitely
I mean, Yoshida is going to get away with any bad tendencies he might have while he fights.
by IHateMMA on
Dec 10, 2008 4:50 PM EST
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i'm with you
tape on your opponent, if it’s available, that’s an advantage IMO!
People can change and get better, but it’s nice to know your opponents strengths and weaknesses!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 6:18 PM EST
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can we go down the reasons why Kos is so hard-headed and won’t listen to his coaches?
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 5:31 PM EST
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did anyone hear what Joe Calzaghe said? he said boxing is dying and their is too many champions…he said UFC is taking over
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3760370
interesting from a top prospect in boxing….
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 5:32 PM EST
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Calzaghe is 37 years old. No reason for him to lie at this point.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on
Dec 10, 2008 5:37 PM EST
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he is wrong...
that the sport is “dying” but right that there are plenty of very troubling issues (championship picture being a major problem…etc)
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 5:39 PM EST
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your right…but their are three things wrong with the sport
greedy promoters
too many weight classes
too many champions
sure Oscar can bring in the money but if he keeps getting beat down it’s not going to help the sport…sure the fighters are going to get payed but Oscar’s not going to fight forever…
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 5:41 PM EST
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I don't mind the weight classes...
honestly. The amount of punching to the head that they can take means that at the smaller weights getting hit by someone 5 or 7 pounds bigger than you 700 times in a fight is dangerous.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 5:46 PM EST
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yeah but i can’t tell you what the pound for pound best in the world Mayweather fights at…I can’t even tell you what Oscar and Manny fought at…isn’t that a bit of a problem?
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 5:48 PM EST
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damn did anyone see those buy numbers 1+ for UFC 91? Jeez could Dana actually be right?
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 6:19 PM EST
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where did you see that?
I’ve only seen the MMAjunkie estimates which aren’t 1+
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 6:29 PM EST
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http://mmapayout.com/2008/12/125m-buys-for-de-la-hoya-pacquiao-ufc-91-reportedly-set-to-top-1m/
mmapayout.com
adam swift
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 6:37 PM EST
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Close your Urijah folder for now.
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 7:46 PM EST
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I thought the action was kicking off at 9?
by szucconi on
Dec 10, 2008 7:41 PM EST
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im looking at some prelims at sherdog….interesting
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 7:42 PM EST
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well Gonzaga will play (fourth ranked in the nation) in 2 hours 15 minutes
by blackzag05 on
Dec 10, 2008 7:46 PM EST
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I've got...
a bowl full of zucchini, yellow squash and tomatoes that have been sauteed with onion, garlic and olive oil…a little bit of rum and fights in about 3 minutes. Life is fuckin’ grand ya’ll.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 8:57 PM EST
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I should clarify...
that the rum is not in my food…it is in my glass…
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 8:58 PM EST
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No wonder you’re so excited about zucchini and yellow squash.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 8:59 PM EST
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oh dude...
zucchini and yellow squash with tomatoes, garlic, onion and olive oil? the shiiiit
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:00 PM EST
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Yoshida is so mistaken about Koscheck’s popularity.
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 9:01 PM EST
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9:01
still at work!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:02 PM EST
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I wish
I own the place :/
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM EST
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Yep, that always complicates matters.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM EST
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and you don't feel a flu coming on?
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM EST
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cough cough
I should really go home and get some rest!
“hey boss wanna cover for me?”
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:04 PM EST
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Shit
57 comments and the card just started. You guys get started early…
by mythbuster on
Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM EST
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Shower or watch the first fight?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:04 PM EST
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Watch Matt Wiman then shower…. wat?
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 9:04 PM EST
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Matt Wiman cannot compare to soap
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:06 PM EST
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Why doesn’t the UFC switch over completely to the Fight Night presentation style? It looks much better than the same ole stuff they put on during PPVs.
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:05 PM EST
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Perhaps if Yoshida watched any Koscheck post-fight interview, he’d change his mind about Koscheck’s popularity.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:08 PM EST
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Did you get high in the last 10 minutes Nick?
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:09 PM EST
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puff puff pass Nick
my hit!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:10 PM EST
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When Goulet’s head stops moving against the canvas, let me know what it says.
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 9:10 PM EST
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Goulet should at least ham up the Road Warrior nickname ala the movie: come out in studded leather with a sawn-off shotgun.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:10 PM EST
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With a chin like his...
he’d be lucky to not KO himself zipping up the jacket…
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:11 PM EST
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...no
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:12 PM EST
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ROAR!
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:13 PM EST
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Well you know how it goes… I am woman, hear me roar
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:14 PM EST
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a slow painful internet death
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:13 PM EST
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After Swick gets through knocking out Goulet, he’ll show up at anyone’s house that spoils a fight to whoop some ass.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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damn
these holiday hours!
all you gotta do is...
by imapimp08 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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I meant Nick’s man crushes. Not any fights : (
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 9:16 PM EST
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14 minutes in...
and no fight. I mean…I get the opening video package…but lets get some fights going dammit!
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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Common, gotta support the troops or wait, was I supposed to sign up for the dish network? I’m so confused.
by LiuLang on
Dec 10, 2008 9:17 PM EST
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Damn…I thought they were gonna do the entrances after that video package. I wonder if they really can make the 3 hour time-limit with all these commercial breaks.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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I think there are no entrances during Fight Night. Only for the main event I think
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:16 PM EST
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Jim Miller just got back from his honeymoon 2 weeks ago.
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST
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Prince of Persa looks like a good game… didn’t like the old one though.
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 9:17 PM EST
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The problem with the the new games in the series is that they have an illusion of freedom but you really have none. It looks so cool running across walls and swinging off flag poles…right up until you realize that there’s only one correct way to get through the level. It’s basically a puzzle game where all you all you have to do to complete the game is find the right order of moves.
I sort of wanted it to be a “free running” game.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:20 PM EST
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video game ad with Sigur Ros
really, really funny to me right now
by Chris Nelson on
Dec 10, 2008 9:17 PM EST
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Oh come on, Everlast? I support the troops and all, but can we see some fights now?
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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Everlast?
…really? EVERLAST?
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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I hadn’t heard from Everlast in ages.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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And don't get me wrong...
it’s nice of him to do a charity thing. It’s just…not someone who I even remembered existing…
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:20 PM EST
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Took a shower and am still back in time for the first fight?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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I wish they had each fighters reach online somewhere…
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST
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Give the man a break. He’s been in TWO semi-popular musical acts.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:21 PM EST
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Finally.
Time to save my paper and crack open a beer!
by Andy R on
Dec 10, 2008 9:20 PM EST
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wasn’t expecting Wiman to be going for the takedown, and boy did he pay for that. Good survival skills by Wiman. But damn am I impressed by Miller so far.
by Kid Nate on
Dec 10, 2008 9:22 PM EST
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are miller’s arms long or are wimans arms short?
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:22 PM EST
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Did he penalize him a point or not?
I mean, if that’s not a point deduction for ignoring the ref’s warnings then what is?
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:23 PM EST
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I didn’t see him take a point for what it’s worth
by Andy R on
Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM EST
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I was wondering…don’t they usually stop the fight to deduct a point? But how can you stop the fight when one guy has a guillotine?
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM EST
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They have to announce it if they do it, I wonder if they’re able to announce it between rounds. it wouldn’t make sense to stand him up while he was being choked to take away the point.
by Phildo on
Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM EST
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That should have been 2 point deduction. He completely ignored the ref
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM EST
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Wiman's got skills..
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:24 PM EST
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Miller’s tired already. Just as I predicted he would be.
by Kid Nate on
Dec 10, 2008 9:25 PM EST
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exactly, that’s why I predicted he’d gas.
I’m what they call psychic.
;)
by Kid Nate on
Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST
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Man, both of ’em, gassed before the end of the 1st.
by Chris Nelson on
Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST
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Wiman just needs to survive early and then he can probably take advantage of Miller’s conditioning.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST
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Probably should have read a preview before making my picks on ufc.com.
by Phildo on
Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST
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yeah both of em look really tired already
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by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST
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Lesnar has a neckbeard???
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:27 PM EST
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Lesnar with facial hair just looks weird.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:27 PM EST
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the body shot is gonna hurt wiman
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:29 PM EST
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He already hunched over in pain after one landed in the first.
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:29 PM EST
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good chin on wiman
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by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:29 PM EST
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I’m impressed that Wiman can keep Miller in his guard. I expected Miller to dominate on the ground, not on the feet.
by Kid Nate on
Dec 10, 2008 9:30 PM EST
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Miller is turning his face into a fruit cocktail
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:30 PM EST
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I need to get reminded into going into the boxing episode of the simpsons and just make .gifs
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:32 PM EST
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It’s like Miller’s corner is in my living room.
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 9:30 PM EST
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Wiman seemed like he was thinking leglock a few times from the bottom. He tried that game with Tavares and didn’t get anything out of it, and I doubt he’ll catch someone with the ground skills of Miller.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:33 PM EST
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I think he’ll try anything to stop getting hit in the face
by Andy R on
Dec 10, 2008 9:33 PM EST
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Wow miller is a beast! I cant believe Wiman didnt get any points taken away for grabbing the shorts
by mlzybaby on
Dec 10, 2008 9:33 PM EST
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Seriously
The ref is grabbing his hand and he still won’t let go. Should have been a deduction.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM EST
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Do they HAVE to stop the action to deduct points?
by LiuLang on
Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM EST
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i am surprised how overwhelmed wiman is on his feet. he looks like a slow counter puncher. thats not good.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM EST
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Wiman needs to get this back standing...or not
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:34 PM EST
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lol at Booo’ing after 10 seconds on the ground.
by Nick Thomas on
Dec 10, 2008 9:35 PM EST
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Come on Rogan, let’s see you insult THESE Fans for booing ;)
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:35 PM EST
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Yeah, I have to assume that’s why he’s just been completely unable to pass.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:37 PM EST
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Wiman: “Why won’t you ever let me be the big spoon?”
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:38 PM EST
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This is why fighters on short notice is not very compelling.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:38 PM EST
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But imagine what Miller is capable of on normal notice.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:39 PM EST
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Miller’s working for a choke at the end.
Very impressed with Jim Miller. He’s a guy I’d like to see against some contenders.
I was pretty high on Wiman after he beat Tavares. That’s all transferred to Miller now.
by Kid Nate on
Dec 10, 2008 9:39 PM EST
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all aboard the bandwagon. Kid Nate is driving
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:40 PM EST
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I've been driving that bus...
for about a year now if you’ve been paying attention. Well before he came on board with the UFC.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:41 PM EST
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obviously...
I havent.
hey look charlie sheen stopped having sex with hookers for a second to cut a promo
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:42 PM EST
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Looking forward to Edgar vs Miller rematch
by mlzybaby on
Dec 10, 2008 9:39 PM EST
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i have no more interest in seeing wiman fight again
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:40 PM EST
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Seriously? The guy goes 4-0 with some great stoppages and then loses a hard-fought decision while showing great heart and you lose interest?
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:41 PM EST
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I’m totally impressed with Miller. He pushed the pace even though he was gassing for most of the match. Wiman is really tough and has a great guard, also.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 9:40 PM EST
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Wiman is tough, no question.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:42 PM EST
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Wow a 10-8 round in there. Appropriate but still unusual to actually see it.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:42 PM EST
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also
is it just me or is charlie sheen a horrible actor. He couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag.
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM EST
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Depends...
are there hookers in the bag?
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM EST
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SCORE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
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“Illusions Michael. Tricks are what a whore does for money.”
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
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In the alternate pilot, he says “or cocaine.” I’m not sure which is better.
by Chris Nelson on
Dec 10, 2008 9:48 PM EST
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didn’t notice. Coincidentally I am going through Arrested Development again. For the umpteenth time. Right now im in the middle of season 2. classic
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:49 PM EST
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Really? I thought a whore gave rimjobs while humming I’m a little tea pot for money. That’s just personal experience.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:47 PM EST
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He doesn’t need to act. He plays Charlie Sheen in every movie.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM EST
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Exactly.
I kind of get a kick out of that character.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 9:44 PM EST
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I want his life… minus the hookers…. well…. not all the hookers. just a few
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:44 PM EST
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We call that the Christopher Walken school of acting.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
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“Would you like some champ-ah-gnah?”
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:46 PM EST
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He hit Wiman so many times that Wiman tried to undress him, not knowing what the hell was going on. Miller is a beast.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM EST
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Seriously… there’s gotta be a point deduction in the rulebook for “attempted pantsing”
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:44 PM EST
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No I don’t think they documented that or “smothering” – as seen in Hendo v. Silva. Combine that with foot stomps and you’ve got my three favorite techniques.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
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List of "what's up," according to the TapouT guy with the makeup:
- the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund
- UFC, baby
- “that”
by Chris Nelson on
Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
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.....haha
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST
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Nobody is going to be hurt tonight the way that guy was.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:46 PM EST
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lousiana's first ever bjj black belt...lol..
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:48 PM EST
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Doesn’t Clementi have a black belt by now?
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:49 PM EST
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Nate Loughran seems really excitied to be fighitng in the UFC. He seems about as excited as my girlfriend is when I tell her to come over for “naked Sunday.”
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:49 PM EST
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*sigh*
Credeur vs. Loughran…I hate liveblogging fights between dudes whose names I have to keep checking to make sure I got the spelling right on.
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:50 PM EST
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lol...word to that
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:51 PM EST
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Pretend you guys are friends and call ’em Tim and Nate.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:51 PM EST
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oh...there will be plenty of tim and nate
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:52 PM EST
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No offense Brent, but I need to point out that out of context that statement seems very … questionable.
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST
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you know it *wink*
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST
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dont forget to throw in a few mirgliatos
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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Looks like someone’s got a case of the Mondays.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:52 PM EST
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I'm not knocking the charity aspect...
but damned if this isn’t a lineup of stars straight outta the 90’s
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST
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I mean..
everlast, sheen, the office space guy…
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by Brent Brookhouse on
Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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Bruce Buffer keeping it real with the pivot.
by Cannon Jacques on
Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST
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If this is a lineup of 80s stars then Buffer’s hair swoop must finally feel at home.
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Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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Shit, Loughran’s got Dave Terrell in his corner. Haven’t seen the Soul Assassin in a while.
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Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST
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Quality game face there from Loughran.
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Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST
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Thank God Buffer tells the audience which fighter to root for ;)
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Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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nate looks ready
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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Wow howd they get Bruce Campbell?
Being on the internet gives me a right...nay a responsibility to bitch about things
by beery_pbr on
Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST
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It’s an easy mistake to make with him.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:55 PM EST
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the left right is working for tim
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by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 9:55 PM EST
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I’m pullin for Credeur but Nate looks crisper standing up
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:55 PM EST
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Credeur is throwing like a crazy person but Nate is getting hit with a bunch of them.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:58 PM EST
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I predict the next celeb will be Dolph Lundgren.
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:56 PM EST
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Kellsey Grammer
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by beery_pbr on
Dec 10, 2008 9:57 PM EST
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How could we forget David Spade.
by Eugene Schelfaut on
Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST
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Yeah, except it looks like Credeur is winning, besides the fact that its sloppy
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Dec 10, 2008 9:58 PM EST
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I hadn’t even noticed Miragliotta until now…guess that’s a good thing.
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:58 PM EST
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Those looping rights from Credeur are hateful
by dropkick101 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:58 PM EST
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Come on. Nate has to see them coming. They’re starting a mile out.
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:59 PM EST
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No doubt about it but if he makes one mistake and gets caught, lights out. Also, he’s not capitalizing on it by countering
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Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST
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no counter at all
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by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST
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Is it me, or do double knee braces automatically make someone look like an old man?
by scotty23 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:59 PM EST
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Creduer is begging to be KOed with that chin being straight up in the air
by Discman2 on
Dec 10, 2008 9:59 PM EST
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Credeur is nasty. How were the first 3 minutes? I was too giddy from baseball stuff.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on
Dec 10, 2008 9:59 PM EST
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nate needs to learn to slip a punch he has no respect for tim’s power at all
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by Warhand on
Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST
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I was just going to say that. Can we get some head movement or something?
by ricker2005 on
Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST
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Uhh…I didn’t hear the buzzer. Why did we go to commercial?
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Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST
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