UFC "Fight for the Troops" Live Results - Josh Koscheck vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 7:38 PM EST
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As always, we're here to take you through the action of a major MMA show. Starting with the Spike TV broadcast I will be here bringing you live results and thoughts on UFC: Fight for the Troops headlined by Josh Koscheck vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida.
Please participate in the comment thread and share your thoughts on the action as it unfolds.
We do ask that you adhere to our one standard rule. No discussion in the comments of any undercard fights until after they are shown or the broadcast ends. We do not want to spoil any fights that may make the air for anyone.
So join us, watch the fights, and share your thoughts. And don't be afraid to get some discussion going before the show kicks off (just not spoilers). Early worm gets the worm.
The show is starting and I love the intro here SO much more than the gladiator intro for the pay-per-views.
Joe Rogan mentions the feeling you get with this crowd when the National Anthem goes on with this crowd. I find it odd that they wouldn't play the anthem while they were on the air.
They're doing a video package explaining the charity and the brain injury problem. I would like to take a minute to urge everyone to call or go to fightforthetroops.com to donate to this noble cause. Even if you only have $5 to give it would make me proud if our readers do what they can.
Jim Miller vs. Matt Wiman - Our first fight of the telecast and I would be willing to bet that this turns into a bit of a barnburner. Round 1 -Miller lands a left and is actually outstriking Wiman early. Nice right hand from Miller. He is beating Wiman outside and inside and now Wiman gets a hard takedown right into a deep guillotine. Miller rolls him and takes full mount. Wiman keeps grabing the shorts and getting warned but he is finally able to escape. I worry about the short notice and such a hard effort for a submission thought. Now Miller is in Wiman's guard landing punches and elbows. Wiman has a cut on the bridge of his nose and is getting beaten thoroughly. Miller makes a mistake and ends up on bottom but Wiman can't do anything and catches an upkick. They're back to standing and Wiman lands a right hook. They're both breathing pretty heavy now. Body kick from Miller and Wiman is hurt badly. Miller is gassed here...it's a torrid pace and he took this fight on such short notice. Superman punch glances off Wiman's head and the round ends. 10-9 round for Miller on the BE scorecard. Round 2 -Miller tries for the takedown but Wiman scrambles to get back up quickly. Combos are landing for Miller now and they clinch against the cage. Punch after punch from Miller now and Wiman is getting picked apart here. Single leg by Miller now and he is in Wiman's guard. Hammerfists from Miller now. Miller lands a big punch as he spins out of a leg lock attempt. Rogan and Goldie are saying that round 1 could be 10-8, but I don't think it was quite that bad. Wiman has no answer but to lay and eat the occasional shot from Miller. The round ends and it's another one sided 10-9 round for Miller on the BE card. Round 3 - Wiman is landing shots early but Miller gets the takedown to get out of trouble. Wiman gets back up and again lands a hook. Single leg by Miller though and the troops boo the ground action. I don't want to sound like a jerk...but this is a charity show for veterans...so maybe be nice to the guys putting on the show for you. This isn't a snoozefest or anything. Wiman is controlling Miller's hips well and isn't taking much damage now and as I type that Miller lands a nice right and passes to side control. Wiman does a nice job of getting him back to full guard and they stand. Wiman lands a knee and Miller takes him right back down. Miller is obviously gassed this rround and just needs to hang on. Wiman gets up tries a takedown and Miller slickly takes his back directly off of the takedown. Miller has his back but looks too tired to do much with it. Wiman grabs Millers glove and gets a warning but says "i'm not" Miller goes for a full mount but Wiman prevents it. The round ends and it's a much closer round but the majority of the action was Miller on top and getting takedowns. Wiman landed a few punches but he lost the fight. 30-27 on the BE card. Official Scorecards -30-27x2, 30-26 across the board. Jim Miller wins by unanimous decision. Very impressive performance for a guy taking a fight on a weeks notice.
Tim Creduer vs. Nate Loughran - Round 1- Low kick from Loughran catches Creduer low. Right hand lands solid for Creduer. Left/right lands for Tim now. Stupidly wide left hook misses for Tim now. Rogan points out what I was thinking...Creduer needs to learn to keep his chin down when he lets his hands go. They're pressed against the fence with no real damage. Body kick from Loughran. Right hand lands for Loughran. Right hand now from Tim. Left hook lands for Nate now. Sloppy kickboxing match here early. Overhand right for Tim lands as does a leg kick. Tim's best work is probably the leg kicks, the technique on his punches is so bad that he is losing a lot of power on them. Another big right hand lands and now Creduer throws some short power shots that looked like they hurt Nate more than any of the looping shots and the round ends. 10-9 Creduer. Round 2 - Creduer avoids a takedown attempt and it is Tim that ends up on top. Nate has a bad cut over his left eye. It will likely be what stops this fight, it's a bad spot. Nate is throwing up sloppy armbar attempts and Tim passes to half guard but Nate gets it back to full guard. They're stood up after a lack of action on the ground and it's back to bad kickboxing. Eye poke but no stoppage so Loughran tries to pounce on a one eyed Tim. Back to standing at distance throwing punches like you'd see outside a night club. Every time Tim lands a short punch he hurts Nate but he insists on throwing looping shots instead of staying short and compact. They stop the fight as Nate is on his stool holding his rib. Rogan says he thinks it was a broken rib. They show Nate in his corner saying he was done. Doesn't look like an injury..he just quit on the stool. Tim Creduer wins by TKO (verbal submission) at 5:00 of Round 2.
Steve Cantwell vs. Razak Al-Hassan - Round 1 - Al-Hassan comes out quickly with jabs and kicks and Cantwell is circling. Body kick from Hassan who is keeping his chin away from his body...that's going to end with him asleep on the mat I figure. Uppercut lands for Cantwell. Uppercut and a knee from Hassan in the clinch. Left hook from Cantwell lands but it was loopy. Razak is winning the round on pressure if nothing else right now. Left hook lands for Cantwell again. A nice shot lands for Cantwell and Hassan looks for a takedown which Cantwell reverses and ends up on top. Cantwell passes to side control with ease. He can steal the round with a little work here. Now Cantwell to the full mount. Hassan gave up an arm and the armbar is deep. Hasaan's arm looks like it broke and Yamasaki jumps in. Steve Cantwell wins by TKO (armbar/injury/ref stoppage) round 1.
Mike Swick vs. Jonathan Goulet - Round 1 - Swick comes out aggressive and drops goulet after about 24 seconds. Shot after shot lands and Big Dan jumps in to save him. Any more questions about Goulet's chin? Jonathan is still out, twitching and his eyes are rolled back in his head. Nasty stuff. Mike Swick wins by KO round 1.
Ben Saunders vs. Brandon Wolff - Undercard action! Round 1 - Low kick from Saunders early. They restart and Saunders lands somewhere around 40 knees from the clinch, then backs off for a high kick then back to the chlinch with a good 30-40 more knees. It's a sick body and head attack with the knees and Wolff is bloody and swolen...the fight should probably have been stopped a good 30 seconds ago but it is finally stopped and Wolff is an absolute mess. WOW, what a beat down. Ben Saunders wins by TKO, round 1.
Yoshiyuki Yoshida vs. Josh Koscheck - I get showing the intros for the main event fighters but I wish they'd skip it just to increase the odds of getting another undercard scrap on the broadcast. Round 1 - Yoshida is looking like he wants to throw low kicks here and keep distance and Koscheck is looking happy to play the striking game. Right hand lands for Koscheck....and another about 20 seconds later, this one drawing blood from Yoshida's ear. Right hand lands for Koscheck and Yoshida looked out on his feet and another HUGE right lands and Yoshida goes stiff. What a BEAUTIFUL and BRUTAL KO. Josh Koscheck wins by KO, round 1. Yoshida was as close to unconcious as you can be while still on your feet before eating that second shot. Wow...
Steve Bruno vs. Johnny Rees - Undercard action. Round 1 - boos from the fans early which again I say is kind of shady considering it's a charity show for a millitary cause. Rees is looking for a takedown but can't do much with it early. Body kick from Rees is caught and Bruno takes him down. Big downward punch and a pass to side control. North-south position and now Bruno takes his back. Back to half guard and more booing and "stand up" from the crowd. Bruno takes his back again. The ref restarts them when Bruno has his back standing and now Rees is landing shots. That was such a dumb restart. I sincerely hope the refs (I didn't catch who is reffing this fight) are having their fight's reviewed and aren't just getting automatically brought back for another event. "Come on do somethin' man" from the ref as there is active work being done. 10-9 for Bruno for me. Round 2 -Bruno grabs a body lock and is looking for a trip but instead takes Rees' back standing. Rees is looking for a Sakuraba-esque kimura but has to let it go. The ref is reacting to the crowd booing which is why he is pressing for action so hard. Restart again as they were working on the cage. Rees connects with an uppercut and they're back against the cage, now Rees is looking for a double despite his corner telling him "no takedowns." As Rees is working for the takedown there is a "come on men" from the ref. Uppercuts land for Rees and Bruno grabs a takedown. Bruno takes his back standing again and this time sinks the choke deep as they go to the ground and Rees has to tap. Steve Bruno wins by submission (rear naked choke) round 2. I think I heard someone say "was that an armbar" after the fight ended.
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Free fight nights always make work a little easier to get through…
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yes they do!
I’m stuck here until 10 tonight for the holidays, but fight night makes the night go by easier! Another reason to have DVR!
all you gotta do is...
thanks ya'll!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone else think that Yoshida could pass for Charles Bronson if he was given a denim shirt and grew a black Porn Stache?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
I really...
wanted to end this with another movie quote after how the Tombstone quote got things going nuts for the WEC show. but I just couldn’t settle on any one specific quote.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions
there...
I added a TV quote this time….rather than going with movies
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
ha!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I swear to god...
I would go see that puppet show…like for real…I’d be there.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I heard you can make things come true if you think on them long enough...
I’m gonna win the betting game
I’m gonna win the betting game
I’m gonna win the betting game
I’m gonna win the betting game
Betting Game
How do you play the betting game? Do any of you do the UFC fantasy game? I have been doing it for a while now and its really cool.
MMAmania.com: What are your thoughts on Yoshida … have you seen any of his fights?
Josh Koscheck: I’ve actually never seen him fight. I haven’t watched any film on him at all. I’m not really focused on what he does or what he can do — I just focus on what I have to do to win this fight.
That frame of thought is just so foreign and weird to me.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 4:32 PM EST reply actions
there are some guys...
who only train their gameplan and want to force it and worry that trying to adjust it to deal with a specific person they aren’t able to be fully effective. I believe in gameplanning specifically for your opponent…but some people do better just working their game with no regard for who they’re facing
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think its a wrestling thing. All you need is one takedown and if you are good enough and drill it enough and perfect it that you can get it to work on anyone. I tend to think its a load of crap, but I have seen it be effective. I would watch a fight maybe to just see what he likes to do and how he reacts to stuff I like to do. How is that info, even if you don’t change your training, going to hurt you?
agreed...
I think vintage Matt Hughes was probably the best example of a guy who wasn’t adjusting his gameplan because he did it so well that you had to figure out a way to beat him..not vice versa.
But yeah, you probably should at least watch some tape. That is odd to me as well
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely
I mean, Yoshida is going to get away with any bad tendencies he might have while he fights.
i'm with you
tape on your opponent, if it’s available, that’s an advantage IMO!
People can change and get better, but it’s nice to know your opponents strengths and weaknesses!
all you gotta do is...
did anyone hear what Joe Calzaghe said? he said boxing is dying and their is too many champions…he said UFC is taking over
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3760370
interesting from a top prospect in boxing….
Calzaghe is 37 years old. No reason for him to lie at this point.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
he is wrong...
that the sport is “dying” but right that there are plenty of very troubling issues (championship picture being a major problem…etc)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
your right…but their are three things wrong with the sport
greedy promoters
too many weight classes
too many champions
sure Oscar can bring in the money but if he keeps getting beat down it’s not going to help the sport…sure the fighters are going to get payed but Oscar’s not going to fight forever…
I don't mind the weight classes...
honestly. The amount of punching to the head that they can take means that at the smaller weights getting hit by someone 5 or 7 pounds bigger than you 700 times in a fight is dangerous.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
where did you see that?
I’ve only seen the MMAjunkie estimates which aren’t 1+
all you gotta do is...
http://mmapayout.com/2008/12/125m-buys-for-de-la-hoya-pacquiao-ufc-91-reportedly-set-to-top-1m/
mmapayout.com
adam swift
I've got...
a bowl full of zucchini, yellow squash and tomatoes that have been sauteed with onion, garlic and olive oil…a little bit of rum and fights in about 3 minutes. Life is fuckin’ grand ya’ll.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 8:57 PM EST reply actions
I should clarify...
that the rum is not in my food…it is in my glass…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
No wonder you’re so excited about zucchini and yellow squash.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
oh dude...
zucchini and yellow squash with tomatoes, garlic, onion and olive oil? the shiiiit
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yoshida is so mistaken about Koscheck’s popularity.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Yep, that always complicates matters.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
and you don't feel a flu coming on?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
cough cough
I should really go home and get some rest!
“hey boss wanna cover for me?”
all you gotta do is...
Shower or watch the first fight?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Matt Wiman cannot compare to soap
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Why doesn’t the UFC switch over completely to the Fight Night presentation style? It looks much better than the same ole stuff they put on during PPVs.
Did you get high in the last 10 minutes Nick?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
When Goulet’s head stops moving against the canvas, let me know what it says.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Goulet should at least ham up the Road Warrior nickname ala the movie: come out in studded leather with a sawn-off shotgun.
With a chin like his...
he’d be lucky to not KO himself zipping up the jacket…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
...no
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
ROAR!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
After Swick gets through knocking out Goulet, he’ll show up at anyone’s house that spoils a fight to whoop some ass.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
I meant Nick’s man crushes. Not any fights : (
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
14 minutes in...
and no fight. I mean…I get the opening video package…but lets get some fights going dammit!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:15 PM EST reply actions
Damn…I thought they were gonna do the entrances after that video package. I wonder if they really can make the 3 hour time-limit with all these commercial breaks.
The problem with the the new games in the series is that they have an illusion of freedom but you really have none. It looks so cool running across walls and swinging off flag poles…right up until you realize that there’s only one correct way to get through the level. It’s basically a puzzle game where all you all you have to do to complete the game is find the right order of moves.
I sort of wanted it to be a “free running” game.
Everlast?
…really? EVERLAST?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST reply actions
I hadn’t heard from Everlast in ages.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
And don't get me wrong...
it’s nice of him to do a charity thing. It’s just…not someone who I even remembered existing…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Took a shower and am still back in time for the first fight?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Finally.
Time to save my paper and crack open a beer!
Did he penalize him a point or not?
I mean, if that’s not a point deduction for ignoring the ref’s warnings then what is?
Man, both of ’em, gassed before the end of the 1st.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Lesnar has a neckbeard???
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Miller is turning his face into a fruit cocktail
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Dec 10, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I need to get reminded into going into the boxing episode of the simpsons and just make .gifs
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wiman seemed like he was thinking leglock a few times from the bottom. He tried that game with Tavares and didn’t get anything out of it, and I doubt he’ll catch someone with the ground skills of Miller.
Seriously
The ref is grabbing his hand and he still won’t let go. Should have been a deduction.
Wiman needs to get this back standing...or not
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
This is why fighters on short notice is not very compelling.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Miller’s working for a choke at the end.
Very impressed with Jim Miller. He’s a guy I’d like to see against some contenders.
I was pretty high on Wiman after he beat Tavares. That’s all transferred to Miller now.
I've been driving that bus...
for about a year now if you’ve been paying attention. Well before he came on board with the UFC.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
obviously...
I havent.
hey look charlie sheen stopped having sex with hookers for a second to cut a promo
i have no more interest in seeing wiman fight again
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I’m totally impressed with Miller. He pushed the pace even though he was gassing for most of the match. Wiman is really tough and has a great guard, also.
also
is it just me or is charlie sheen a horrible actor. He couldn’t act his way out of a paper bag.
Depends...
are there hookers in the bag?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
SCORE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
In the alternate pilot, he says “or cocaine.” I’m not sure which is better.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
I kind of get a kick out of that character.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
He hit Wiman so many times that Wiman tried to undress him, not knowing what the hell was going on. Miller is a beast.
List of "what's up," according to the TapouT guy with the makeup:
- the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund
- UFC, baby
- “that”
.....haha
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
lousiana's first ever bjj black belt...lol..
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
*sigh*
Credeur vs. Loughran…I hate liveblogging fights between dudes whose names I have to keep checking to make sure I got the spelling right on.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:50 PM EST reply actions
oh...there will be plenty of tim and nate
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
No offense Brent, but I need to point out that out of context that statement seems very … questionable.
you know it *wink*
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
dont forget to throw in a few mirgliatos
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not knocking the charity aspect...
but damned if this isn’t a lineup of stars straight outta the 90’s
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I mean..
everlast, sheen, the office space guy…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt about it but if he makes one mistake and gets caught, lights out. Also, he’s not capitalizing on it by countering
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Credeur is nasty. How were the first 3 minutes? I was too giddy from baseball stuff.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
nate needs to learn to slip a punch he has no respect for tim’s power at all
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Creduer has SUCH bad technique...
it takes away from your power to be that wide with your punches…I don’t care what anyone says about “how far it travels” short, quick punches generate the most power.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:01 PM EST reply actions
This is just subpar. Bad kickboxing. Neither of these guys will ever be a contender. Hell, Chris Leben makes these guys look technical.
No doubt about it. But that’s what you get when you put two BJJ guys in the ring who want to put on a stand up show for the troops
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
when all of the guys who know mma as “ultimate fighting” who wear tapout but cant perform an armbar – when those guys roll a little jiu jitsu
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t you hear? The next Fight Night is going to be like tonight’s, but the cause they will be fighting for is to find a cure for Jorge Gurgel syndrome.
i think the cure for jorgue gurgel syndrome is to not keep giving the guy fights when he keeps fucking losing for being stupid
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
THANK YOU!
YOU get it!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
a semi? you kidding? i’m waiting for godlberg to say “put that thing away”
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just waiting for Big Dan to stomp someone’s head on the ground.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
WTF I think Nate is blind in his left eye. he is eating those rights
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
seriously. i think he might be yelling “hey! hey! look at me im throwing a looping right! hey thats whats comin next! you ready!” but i cant read lips
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
First to move his head loses.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
He may have been hurt...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
True…(but insert cheese solider comment about the fighter not knowing what “hurt” really is)
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I predict 20 minutes of intrepid videos now.
by Dropkick434 on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Movie previews are better than the fight.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 10:08 PM EST reply actions
But...
tom cruise looks like is is being SO german in it!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
*he is
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Injured rib...
it sounds like…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
wow
Crater made dude look like de la hoya from this past weekend
CHRIS O'DONNELL!
YOU ALL LOSE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:09 PM EST reply actions
Nonsense…I think UFC fans are much more likely to know him from “Scent of a Woman” )
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
haha!
I’m gonna think “nipples” every time I see Chris O’Donnell. Forever.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
oh shit...
he quit on the stool after all…no injury…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions
Look. It’s Robin…I mean Chris O’Donnell.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 10:10 PM EST reply actions
Do you think Dana and Joe Silva instructed all fight-winners to plug the charity in their post-fight interview, no matter how injured/gassed they are?
i think they said “you are a fucking asshole if you dont”
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Gin Blossoms are a possibility too.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
They no-showed.
Thankfully Candlebox was available.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
All 4 One
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Next celeb
That guy from Dawson’s Creek, James Vanderbeek
Or they could switch it up and bring a chick in. In which case I say….. Jewel
Mike Rowe – is the narrator voice guy for TUF
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking...
that it’ll be Kevin James….not exactly a shocker. I’m just feeling him as the next one.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Verne Troyer sitting on Michael Clarke Duncans shoulders.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
That was my wife's guess...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
We're about to see Adam Sandler
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
And he can get another made-for-tv movie out of it.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
10 bucks says Dana White instructed Buffer to throw “Osama” somewhere into Razak Al-Hassan’s name during his intro…just to make sure the fans get it.
ahah yeah.. “hailing from afghanistan, new hapshire – Razak Al-hussan!”
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Neither is Al-Hassan's ;)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Koscheck… but it’s more like a clown wig.
by Nick Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Barely…I’d say Guillard had more of a fro than Randleman did.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Krazy Horse has a bit of a fro, albeit not in the UFC
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Although on second thought, that’s not really a fro either.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
The Spirit...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
OMG, ITS JULES FROM PULP FICTION
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Sam Jackson...
…that’s not fun enough…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Be cool like a bunch of little Fonzies.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Can the UFC...PLEASE...
learn from boxing that reach does not include the width of someones back? It’s seriously time to start doing shoulder to fingertips
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:23 PM EST reply actions
Yeah i was just thinking about that before its funny you brought that up
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
(eagerly awaits Cantwell’s post-match celebratory dance)
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
i hope its the gimp. actually i hope its dana dressed as the gimp
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Ok…Al-Hassan looks massive next to Cantwell.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
eh… stay at it til he loses i say. why make the cut if you dont have to
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Al-Hazzan looking good
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Me saying someone looks good is the kiss of death
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He has the Houston Alexander defense.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I’m 3 for 3…. i checked the prelims. =)
by Nick Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
But worse…Sylvia’s arm didn’t look bad till the replay. That made me queasy right there.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn’t Iowa guy supposed to be a good grappler? He had pretty lousy technique on the feet and on the ground. Some potential, but I don’t think he’s UFC ready.
potential as in hes an athlete but thats about it. his technique everywhere was shit. i learned more training muay thai for a month
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Whats messed up, his hand was poised and ready to tap – but for soem reason he chose not to. Goofy bastard.
Fuck Cantwell. Who runs up to a guy and motions that he snapped his arm after doing so? Welcome to my shit list..
"Watch it pop. That was sweet man, I've been waiting so long to do that"
What a fucking loser this kid is.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
oh calm down...
it was a moment of excitement. I don’t think it was that bad at all…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
It was pretty stupid not to tap from a super deep armbar.
by Dropkick434 on Dec 10, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Gandolfi looks like he just whacked someone
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Robot sounds even more retarded when Buffer says it.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 10:33 PM EST reply actions
Did he just say he was waiting to do that?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
i don’t know about that ending…. I know its a fight and you have to do what it takes to win but is it really necessary to break his arm?
You go until he taps, so I understand that. What I don’t understand is his behavior and revelling at someone having their fucking arm snapped.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
It certainly sucks...
but you know the deal going in. If you’re caught..tap out. Obviously the amount of pressure wasn’t making him tap…so you continue to go until they do. Them’s the breaks.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
absolutely...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
i do. if the guy ha too much pride like that he deserves it.. teach him a lesson
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s teaching him a lesson. That’s what happens, sure. But motioning at a snapped arm no less than four times and those ridiculous comments post fight? That’s just weak..
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
What about someone saying they want to knock someone out? Is that any less malicious? Is it alright for a striker to want to knock someone out, but not for a grappler to want a chance for a dumbass not to tap so you can break their arm?
by Dropkick434 on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
tap out then. It was locked in for a while and he didn’t tap. Gotta keep going til it’s over. Is he supposed to let go?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t be pissed about him breaking the guy’s arm. He won convincingly. There’s no need to gloat while the other guy’s injured.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think...
…a lot of people made up their minds a long time ago that they didn’t like Cantwell so this is giving them a chance to go off about it. I really don’t think anything he said was THAT bad. I don’t think he really means he has been wanting to break a guy’s arm…I think that was more “wanting to get a win in the UFC…etc”
Could he have expressed a little more concern? Yeah, but seriously…settle down a bit.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Seems adverse
I liked Cantwell and rooted for him against Stann (who I thought was a bigger meathead).
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly...
think a lot of people jumped on the Al-Hassan bandwagon along with a kind of undertone of dislike for Cantwell which is going to lead to a big backlash for a guy just kind of talking out of the excitement of the fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
You're making it up as it goes along
I don’t give a shit about Al Hassan. This is the first time I’ve seen him fight and had no expectations for him. I entirely expected him to lose this fight and, again, I rooted for Cantwell when he fought Stann last. That has nothing to do with his behavior. And also, I reiterate, I was ok with the broken arm. But his behaviour was amateur hour. I don’t see how it can be construed differently. You don’t congratulate yourself for doing that to someone, profusely. The first snapping motion, I was like “ok dude, I get it”. The second even. Then he runs over and does it in his face and says all that shit in the post fight comments about “watch it pop! Haha! I always wanted to do that!” He’s a stupid 22 year old asshole.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really not...
there is practically no video of Al-Hassan available and yet I saw SO many people going off about “he is for real” or “I’ve seen him fight and he is awesome…” etc.
I’m fine if you have a problem with it. I really am. It obviously isn’t directed at you if you can say everything you said about your feelings before the fight.
I personally don’t think it was THAT bad.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
oh wait...
did he actually go up to him after the fight and taunt him about it? I missed that and would be unhappy about it honestly. Liveblogging involves a lot of not looking at the TV after fights end. I saw him do the arm thing to the camera but I didn’t see him taunt him directly…so maybe I’m wrong here.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah dude
That’s what I have a problem with. He ran over to him and made the motion of snapping an arm at him. I really don’t like that..
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
then that
IS an issue. I thought all this noise was over him motioning to the camera or the things he said in the interview which I didn’t think were that bad.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Craig Ferguson...
didn’t see that one coming.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:37 PM EST reply actions
He does take up residence here and may very well be a citizen by now.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
yA know, it would have been much worse if he had snapped his forearm and the bone had perforated teh skin.
1:24
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Who says Swick will? I’m thinking Stitch might get the KO when he puts the vaseline on Goulet.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Is Goulet's chin that suspect?
I remember him and Hironaka beating the crap out of each other for 2 rounds.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes...
it really is.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
A certain editor of a prestigious MMA site said:
Goulet has the worst chin in all of professional MMA…
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Moral victories FTW
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hey guys...
jokes about stuff is fine…but don’t make anything that could possibly be seen as a “direct insult” to any of the vets. Sorry…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:46 PM EST reply actions
what about to you?
because honestly ive been holding back all night and I can’t hold it anymore. Fuck you, guy. Yeah I said it.
lol im just kidding
Oh good lord...
…I’m sure I deserve it for something at some point.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Quick fun personal fact...
after the diet mountain dew “men are struck by lightning 4 times more than women” commercial.
I have…in fact been struck by lightning.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 PM EST reply actions
Playing in a state baseball tournament...
and a storm broke out. we were heading for shelter and lightning struck about 6 inches in front of me and my metal spikes were obviously in the ground so it went up my legs, knocked me out and burned the hair off the bottom of my left leg when my sock caught fire.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I woke up...
to my mom over me pulling some classic “He’s dead” theatrics.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
That’s interesting and could explain some shit.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone else really creeped out by those Xbox commercials with the people heads split open in the back?
It’s only creepy when it’s sexual.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Steve Cantwell
For the record, there’s nothing wrong with him being as celebratory as he was or saying what he did. I am shocked people find anything about that disagreeable. I’ve heard and seen shit just as bad in the training room.
I guess so. Lot of people on here talk about sportsmanship at all the wrong times.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I really don’t think he did that, it looked to me like he was doing it to the camera fans at all times, but it’s hard to tell with camera angles.
He turned back in that direction, but it wasn’t in his face. He was on the other side of the cage and standing completely up.
It’s right after winning his first match in the UFC, it’s an exciting moment, it’s no worse than someone celebrating after knocking someone out. I really don’t think this is that big of a deal.
thank you luke. i’m just surpirsed that guys who are fans of fighting are so offended by comments from a guy who likes to fight.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
63 entry thread on the UG about it already – http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/?go=forum_framed.posts&forum=1&thread=1384790&page=1&pc=63
by Nick Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I only think the "doing it to his face" thing...
was really objectionable.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
think about it this way – i dunno what youre training consists of – but if im rolling and i get a guy locked compeltely and hes not tapping, its disrespectful in that he doesnt think you have the ability to hurt him so he doenst tap
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Given that any BJJ coach at any reputable school will tell you to break a guy’s arm if he doen’t tap, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it.
by Luke Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
It’s no different than celebrating a great KO. You guys are so wrong about this.
by Luke Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so the teacher's pet here...
or is it the Editor-In-Chief’s pet?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with breaking the guys arm, my problem is with him celebrating it afterward. Just like its cool to land a devastating KO, but it’s Tank Abbott to imitate the seizures the guy is having on the floor.
nah i cant agree with that. its a sport. youre celebrating your win and in this case part of his win was snapping the guys arm.
i think you are all forgetting one major thing – breaking an arm is not a “serious” injury. that shit will heal within a few weeks, or worst case months. the fault lies on the guy who didnt tap, not the guy who did it. he has every reaosn to celebrate.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
But Al-Hassan a) choose not to tap and b) wasn’t writing in agony. More to the point, Cantwell was highlighting the achievement, not the direct suffering of his opposition. He wasn’t mimicing Al-Hassan clutching his arm.
And it’s an arm bar. The point is to BREAK THE OTHER GUY’S ARM. That’s the entire point of the submission. And we’re mad when someone succeeds and is happy about it?
by Luke Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly. its part of fighting. you’re going to condem a guy for celebrating his accomplishment? if that guy who KOed sam vaquez was celebrating that would’ve been a differnet story but this was a broken arm. he should’v etapped. he deserves to get ridiculed.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Right there with you
Luke, the breaking of the arm is part of the game, but you absolutely do not gloat about it and rub it in the other guys face. You can attribute his behaviour to him being 22, but it’s still a bunch of shit.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t know Rob Lowe? Thank you for smoking – “when do you sleep?” “sundays”
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Eddie Murphy for the win?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Of course Goullet has Pavia as his manager.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 10:56 PM EST reply actions
...yeeeeah...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Damn he was out after the first right that dropped him.
out throughout everything after that right,.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
having a chin like that in MMA is like being a surgeon with cerebral palsy
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t it need to have “Swick” in the name?
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
E-mail me...
I’ll work something out for ya…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
no...just e-mail me
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mick Foley...
oh good lord. From legend to money desperate wrestlewhore. I can’t stand the guy…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:00 PM EST reply actions
Can we get some fuckign AKA action? How about swick v. fitch v. kos in a triple threat.
i’m sick of these fuckheads saying they won’t fight teammates.
Oh god...I think I figured out the next star to show up...
…and read a charity plug…
FRED SAVAGE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:04 PM EST reply actions
booo
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
I caught an old Family Matters the other day. Laura got visited by the ghost of Christmas and he turned her into a female Urkel so she could know his pain. Shit was next level.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I’m going back and counting right now.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
lemme know.. last time i counted was back when franklin punched shamrock 16 times in a row.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Rahman...
had a very nasty one.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
THere was another really awful one...
earlier this year…I can’t remember who it was though…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I hear SO many good things from about Saunders...
…in training.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
either way very far from new york. i trained upstate with tamdan mccrory and went to serras once but they were charging crazy numbers.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
nah its like over 200 a month or so from what i hear. right now im just doin BJJ under a serra black belt guy naked rich who just opened a school a mile from my house for 120 a month 3x a week. guy knows his shit
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
thats awesome. i wanna get a blue belt in BJJ and then go back to doing everyhing, theres two separate places by me for about 140 or 150 that offer everything just like that
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
And he beat a dude name Hannibal..that’s pretty badass.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Saunders should have run up to him and squeezed his face together and yelled “FRANKENSTEIN, mother fucker!” and then said “I’ve always wanted to frankenstein a mother fucker like Shamrock.”
…Right?
Try it
Squeeze your forehead and cheeks over your eyes. My brother quite enjoyed it.
by Blackout612 on Dec 10, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Rogan taking hyperbole to the next level.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 11:15 PM EST reply actions
They’re saying it like they memorized their lines off a card backstage.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
So?
I hope they did…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Just wondering if the UFC told them to say… which makes sense of course. =)
by Nick Thomas on Dec 10, 2008 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
The real test is if Yoshida wins…will his translater lie about him saying it? ;)
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yoshida...
says he wants to break Kos’ arm. It’s time to FREAK OUT!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:19 PM EST reply actions
BOO HOO guys who fight for a living want to inflict harm on one another MAKE IT STOP
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
But he hasn’t been waiting to do it forever…the idea just came to him.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s all fun and games till someone gets hurt.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying...
if he does break his arm by some chance….is it better or worse since he said he wanted to do it before the fight?
And it’s winter in Michigan yo…turtlenecks are sweeeet
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
dammit koscheck, you gotta primp up that clown wig
by Discman2 on Dec 10, 2008 11:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If you're rocky?
Yes.
Generally you can just allow it to go down naturally. Takes a bit of time…but still.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
and of course ice...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Also featured in...
Apocalypto which is a pretty fun movie that no one gave much of a chance due to the Gibson involvement…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Nice forehead
LMFAO! That fight was insane. I always liked Saunders.
by xFenixKnightx on Dec 11, 2008 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
We got Matt LeBlanc, but no Mandy Moore? WTF?
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 11:24 PM EST reply actions
Yeah seriously...
do only men care about TBI?
Give me some eye candy at least…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Hey if there is anyone who’s livelihood has been affected by a bomb, it’s Matt Le Blanc with Joey…
by Sam Cupitt on Dec 10, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
DUDE!
WELL DONE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
This truly is my favorite comment of the night...rec'd
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
STUN GUN!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Okami, Dong Hyun Kim (although he looked less than impressive against Matt Brown)
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
You go away now!
BANNED!
Rule #1 in my world. Thou shalt not diss the stun gun
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Brown is a solid guy...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
i agree. HIGHLY underrated based on the record. he won that fucking fight.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
They get dropped after just one or two fights…Sasaki, Kotani, Hironaka, Omigawa.
I’m surprised Chonan is still getting booked.
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think a lot of it is preferring to fight at home. That’s a long trip most of the time and it’s sort of a fight culture unto itself over in Asia.
notice that Mario was a mile away. A more cautious ref would’ve been between them after the first punch.
Dude that’s tough. That guy was still standing up. There’s no precedent for that.
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Josh Koscheck is not leaving the UFC. He just scored an amazing KO in a main event on cable. He’s getting moNEEEYYY
fuck the merchandising deal that shit will get worked out
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
UFC won’t let us post the gifs anymore. But the judo chop will return — and its not limited to judo!
Man, the UFC is always cracking down.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
5 seconds of a gif...
is money out of their pocket!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
You can look at it that way, or it’s cheap advertising all over the internet.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
I was joking of course...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think your characterization is equivalent to the UFC’s, but they’re not joking.
by Cannon Jacques on Dec 10, 2008 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
The UFC really said that?
Why don’t they tell the guys on the sherdog forums to stop posting gifs…. christ the ufc is crazy …
I guess he doesn’t have to scout Yoshida after all.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Dec 10, 2008 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Overall this event was 7/10
the running commentary on here is what put it up to a 7. Had I watched it alone, 5/10
The Miller fight was fun..
for a round…the creuder fight was garbage…Cantwell fight was fine (as a fight) but short…Swick fight was insanely predictable…Saunders’ clinch work was fun….Kos with a highlight reel KO. Yeah…that sounds like your rating is fair
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
thje mostly all lightweight one from a couple months back that the internet made expand..i remmebder maynard and shit
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
UFC fight night 13 – 3 hours. I remember going apehsit when they said it was only going to be 2
by dropkick101 on Dec 10, 2008 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
Did he really just restart from that position?
Local refs appointed by the ACs rule
I’m bad with ref names but there was a chap with a ponytail a couple of UFNs ago who made me die laughing.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
“Shit boys, I’m fixin’ to go mud-boggin if you stall like pussies anymore. Now fight you faggots!”
by Scott Haber on Dec 10, 2008 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
This ref isnt as bad as the ref in chicago you guys know who Im talken about. He looked like Geraldo and wouldnt shut up the whole fight
How bad....
…were the other undercard fights if they’re showing a stalemate with crowd boos?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:49 PM EST reply actions
I like him...
that’s just me though…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
exactly...
what I said in the round 2 liveblog. Every time there was a boo you saw him walk toward the fighters like he wanted to restart them or yelling “come on men” or “do somethin dudes!” or whatever…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Woohoo!
First win for Bruno in the UFC, finally. Good for him.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 10, 2008 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well the show is over...so undercard discussion can begin!
So we saw the broken arm of Hassan…and it sounds like Corey Hill suffered a bit of a break himself…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:56 PM EST reply actions
Unanimous decision...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Hartt checked a Hill leg kick and Hill’s leg fcucked itself. Hopefully it wasnt as bad as Pele’s.
Nasty.
I bet it looked bad, dude has cricket limbs.
by Chris Nelson on Dec 11, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
Nasty I’m sure
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Rogan says “bullshit” about AIG and other “financial problems” in America in light of the problems veterans have. Nice sentiment I suppose…but lets not get carried away about how important the American economy is…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 10, 2008 11:59 PM EST reply actions
You more than anyone should know politics is a no-no at Bloody Elbow.
Either way, it’s one of my favorite things so I don’t give a shit. I think what Rogan was looking at was the amount of attention that we’re giving to a situation that couldn’’t have been that dire based on the fact that the CEOs of these companies still gave themselves multi-million dollar bonuses. There’s no doubt the banks and the auto industries are a fundamnetal part of the economy but I can also guarantee you that Chapter 11 was most definitely a viable option that was not fully explored – maybe not with respect to some of these banks but deifneitly with the auto industry. If anything, the management should’ve been replaced.
Yet we offer so much attention to these fucking idiots who keep screwing up and our attention equals money in terms of viewership on cable news yet these guys who desparately need our attention are lost in the shuffle. I think that’s whhat Rogan was getting at.
by dropkick101 on Dec 11, 2008 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not talking politics...
the economy is the economy…that goes beyond politics. I get what he was saying. It was just kind of…odd to me.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 11, 2008 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
Feel free to delete this, guys.
It’s not so much the management of the auto industry as it was the union contracts. They pay an extra two grand per car in labor compared to the foreign manufacturers. If they had filed for bankruptcy they would have had to renegotiate those contracts. A fairly substantial number of politicians are bought and paid for by the UAW, so they had to bail them out.
Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.
by Richard Wade on Dec 11, 2008 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
I figured the best strategy was to achieve a positive number as based on the last time this contest was run there were only a dozen or so guys who made money and everyone else came out with less than they had going in. I didn’t actually count the list but the list of > 1000 was by far less than that of < than a 1000.
Got $40 from me...
…money is tight with christmas and all…but it’s a hell of a good cause.
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