WEC 36: Faber vs. Brown Results, Updates and LIVE Fight Coverage
by Chris Nelson on Nov 5, 2008 4:33 PM EST
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As with every major event, BloodyElbow.com will be here to provide live results, updates and commentary on tonight's WEC 36 card which airs live on Versus.
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And we're live. Frank Mir and Todd Harris in the booth as usual. Wasn't sure if Mir would be there - he's already been off MMA Live.
Nissen Osterneck vs. Jake Rosholt
Round 1: Osterneck charges forward with a flurry, a 5- or 6-shot combo, some of which connect to the face of Rosholt but don't appear to do much damage. Rosholt immediately clinches and goes for the takedown... and gets it. The wrestler momentarily takes Osterneck's back, but Osterneck rolls out of it and then they're back to the feet. Osterneck with more heavy shots, more combinations, connecting hard now. Now knees from the clinch, but Rosholt ties up and uses a hip toss which I'm sure Nate will have a gif of soon. Rosholt pummeling from the top. Osterneck turtling up with Rosholt in side mount, and just as Troy Waugh warns not to knee to the head on the ground, Rosholt... knees Osterneck in the head, on the ground. It may have been accidental, Waugh restarts them on the ground with no penalty as Osterneck appears no worse for wear. Rosholt in side control, Osterneck turns and gives up his back where Jake gets hooks in and begins raining down hard shots with :30 remaining. Osterneck manages to flip and survive the frame. Close round as Osterneck did damage on the feet, but Rosholt dominated on the floor. BloodyElbow.com scores the round 10-9 Rosholt.
Round 2: Rosholt takes it back to the floor immediately but Osterneck looks to lock up a triangle! Rosholt escapes and moves to side control - both guys looking winded already. Some sharp elbows and hammerfists from side control, but Rosholt is clearly gassing and Osterneck stands right up now. Now Osterneck brutalizing the winded Jake Rosholt (hands at his side) with winging strikes, knees and kicks. Looking for a KO left head kick, Osterneck slips and is mounted by Rosholt. Osterneck either injured himself, has totally shot his wad, or both - he's conscious but merely laying and barely covering up as Rosholt pummels his head from back mount. Troy Waugh is screaming "Improve your position!" for 15-20 seconds before he's forced to end it. Wild, wild fight.
Jake Rosholt def. Nissen Osterneck via TKO (Strikes) at 3:48 of Round 2
Leonard Garcia vs. Jens Pulver
Round 1: Tentative standup in the first minute, Garcia hitting harder but Jens landing more. Garcia moving forward, stuns Pulver with a nasty left hook, then a right - at least that's what it looked like, dude has fast hands. Lil Evil stumbles back, tries to shake the cobwebs loose and gives a stunned look worthy of Glass Joe in Punch Out. Garacia charges with a crisp right leg kick and left hand and Jens crumples. Pulver is disheveld, one knee on the mat, Garcia standing over him teeing off until the ref steps in. "Impressive" isn't even the word.
Leonard Garcia def. Jens Pulver via TKO (Strikes) at 1:12 of Round 1
Prelim time - two undefeated 185'ers in a fight which doesn't mean much of anything as the WEC has abolished the division.
Aaron Simpson vs. David Avellan
Round 1: After :30 of uneventful standup, Simpson ducks in with a left to the body and an overhand right which sends Avellan to the canvas like a ragdoll. Simpson pounds away, waking the unconscious Avellan who has to be told the fight's over as Simpson celebrates. Crispy flash KO. Maybe Simpson won't have to try out for TUF now?
Aaron Simpson def. David Avellan via KO (Punch) at 0:45 of Round 1
Round 1: The Brazilian fighter shoots and latches on to his opponent's left leg, but Sonnen is sprawling flawlessly and sending down shots as Filho crawls forward. Filho looks sluggish, misses with a wild right hook and catches a jab to the face as he slips and falls. Sonnen standing over Filho, who's inviting Sonnen down. Chael trying to lunge in with hard shots but Filho's keeping the distance - why won't Sonnen just let him up? Now Sonnen ties up the legs and briefly moves to side control... but Filho starts to intertwine and Sonnen stands right back up. Filho still butt-scooting, looking bored with 1:00 remaining as Sonnen stomps his ankles to no effect. Filho snatches a leg momentarily but Sonnen spins out. He still won't let Filho up! The round runs out with Sonnen landing some leg kicks and Filho relaxing on his side. The crowd is not surprisingly displeased. BloodyElbow.com scores the round 10-9 Sonnen.
Round 2: Two lazy leg kicks from Filho to start the round, and Sonnen paid him back for both with sharp left hands straight to the face. Paulo pulls closed guard but Sonnen slips out and this time backs right up to allow the Brazilian to his feet. And again. He must've been hearing it from his corner. Filho tries to pull guard once more and Sonnen plows him into the mat, then stands right back up. Filho is exhausted and looking lost with 2:00 left, lunging in and telegraphing his wild left hands. Sonnen by comparison looking indefatigable. Filho lazily shoots and Sonnen sprawls out perfectly, leaving Filho to get up off the ground one more time. I'm close to making this 10-8, but... BloodyElbow.com scores the round 10-9 Sonnen.
Round 3: "It's not exciting, it's not sexy." You can say that again, Todd. Filho shoots from a mile away, just an excuse to slide into the butt-scoot. Lots of boos as Sonnen decides to stand over him again. The ref finally takes control and restarts it with 3:00 to go in the round. Sonnen's been beating Filho up on the feet for two but he's looking tentative now, not trying to get caught in another late submission. Filho is doing absolutely nothing except covering up when Sonnen moves forward with his one-two combinations. Crowd chanting "bullshit." 0:45 left, they tie up for a brief moment and Sonnen hits a great standing elbow. Frank Mir is freaking out because Filho keeps looking off into the crowd and apparently mumbling to himself; Mir says he's seeing Jesus. Filho does seem out of it - as time expires at last and Sonnen tries to get his attention to slap hands, the Brazilian looks completely disoriented. BloodyElbow.com scores the round 10-8 Sonnen.
BloodyElbow.com scores the bout 30-26 for Chael Sonnen.
Chael Sonnen def. Paulo Filho via Decision (Unanimous; 30-27 x3)
Mike Thomas Brown vs. Urijah Faber
Round 1: Brown trying to find his range early, Faber just eyeing him and sizing him up. Faber ducks in with some quick punches but Brown clinches up and sends some knees up the middle. Faber with a crisp straight left, but Brown charges forward and Urijah is backed into the cage. The champ bounces off and Brown switches levels, scores a takedown and stuns Faber with a left as he pops back up. Faber bounces off the cage, stumbles and throws a wild standing right elbow in desperation but eats a vicious right uppercut from Brown and falls to the ground turtling up. Brown is pounding away, Faber barely defending and Waugh giving the California Kid every chance to recover. Finally the ref has no choice and we've got a new WEC Featherweight Champ. Mike Thomas Brown really did just shock the world.
Mike Thomas Brown def. Urijah Faber via TKO (Punches) at 2:23 of Round 1
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I need something to take the place of election coverage.
I need another hit.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Nov 5, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions
http://tatame.com/2008/11/05/Filho—Sonnen-will-dearly-pay-me-at-WEC-36
"I’m not feeling bad, I’ve already recovered my weight and I’m ready. That guy (Sonnen) will pay dearly my 25% (purse) inside that octagon on those three rounds: 10% on the first, 10% on the second and the rest at the third".
Yeah!
He’ll pay for you not making weight! You tell him!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
R. McCullough/Cerrone
I thought this fight was tonight, was I wrong?
well...
I’m here for at least the first fight…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 8:09 PM EST reply actions
If Rosholt wins, color me shocked.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Is their ever a bad WEC card?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
neeeeerd!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Hey...I have engineering.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
dammit...
you beat me to it…I was looking for a picture of Ogre right after I typed nerd…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Have I ever mentioned that I hate...
“somebody’s 0 must go?”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 8:15 PM EST reply actions
A Mir-Lesnar type sub wouldn't surprise me.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah, Rosholt's standup D is much less polished than I'd thought.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
The dude’s got to stop blocking punches with his face.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 5, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't even have his hands up/
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Really good first round. Tough round to call.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
If Osterneck's Takedown D wasn't so atrocious this fight would be over.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
forget takedown D
when he gets back to the gynm, someone has to teach that boy how to throw a power punch
Or when not throw a spinning backfist
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Why the hell would you go for the spinning backfist? That just lost you the fight.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
He wanted the unnecessary style points
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Osterneck. You lost this fight more than Rosholt won it. Why the spinning backfist? Idiot.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
I don’t know about that. Osterneck’s stand up is sloppy and he got his guard passed like it didn’t exist. Rosholt needs serious work, but Osterneck does as well.
Osterneck was never really threatened on the ground, though. That’s the thing. The idiot just had to go for the spinning backfist for no reason at all. That, alone, lost him the fight.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Plus he had like 3 submission attempts on Rosholt.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Oh well...
we’ll all get to coloring…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Rosholt would not do well in the UFC at this point of his career.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah. I don’t think that strategy will be so effective against a guy with serious power.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 5, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why he won’t ever be as great as people think. I don’t care how much he improves his stand-up, he’ll never be able to hack it against the top level strikers.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Is Kimbo fighting Bob Sapp or something?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
A little.
His standup was still raw as hell, but he dominated in takedowns and ground control (obv) and showed good sub defense.
I have arrived.
Rosholt and Osterneck was crazy. I’ve been waiting to see Osterneck for a while and he showed some very nice things, except he was just outmatched on the ground by Rosholt.
Rosholt needless to say needs a lot of work on his feet but hey, he’s gonna mess some people in the UFC up on the ground.
Also is the guy that does the interviews the same dude who replaced goldberg at UFC 55?
Every Dollar you bet on Garcia you make 1.35
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I’m going to start nipple twisting in non fight situations such as job interviews, and see how far it gets me.
Sad to see the end of Jens' run
He was one of the greats but never was at his best for the big audiences of the modern era. The Jens of 2002 would’ve beaten all these guys.
wow
great interview. After Garica just spent five minutes saying he wanted a title shot, the interview guy asks, “Do you think you’re ready for a title shot now?”.
Why are they showing a middleweight bout… it means nothing
Probably a good fight though so I’ll shut up
Jens
Man seeing Jens lose is depressing…that reminded me exactly what happened with Joe Lauzon
Interviewer
The interviewer is more depressing than having to see Junie on a bender
IT IS ALL OVER. Joe Rogan in the cage…oh wait this is WEC…Todd Harris just goes along with whatever Mir writes for him
Less well-roundedness
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wrestlers
That’s who they get to train with them…they need to branch out a little more
at least he didn’t say let’s just look up at the screen since your english isn’t that good….RIP Goldberg….
can we please get a Goldberg highlight reel up here someday…and what about YAMMA pit fighting and their announcer? “Here’s Ricco Rodriguez from rehab. Give him a beeer!!”
Paulo Filho may have missed weight, but he’s wearing his signature sleeveless flannel. That could be trouble for Sonnen…or not.
He's got the Roy Nelson style Size Advantage
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah, he’s got Kentucky Fried Chicken and Taco Bell on his side
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 5, 2008 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
How is chael not a bigger favorite?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Hmm
That dont make sense. The champ didnt make weight – so Sonnen not only has to overcome a bigger obstacle, but he don’t even get the title if he does.
That sooo dont make sense.
Its absurdly backwards. I can’t think of any reason why the title shouldnt be on the line if the champ is the one that screwed up the weight
Until he went x amount without a title defense
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah. He’s catching a lot of hell for this on top of his other trouble.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 5, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Filho is just laying down
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
This is like watching a really bad Pride fight.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Chael shopuld just shove filho around.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Round 5 would have been good times.
by Nick Thomas on Nov 5, 2008 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Filho would have used his "Cough up Cheeto Dust" attack.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
"Watch the knee, Paulo"
Wtf was with the ref telling Paulo to watch the knee kicks in the first round when he was on his back and Chael was standing? Since when are upkicks to the knee illegal? This is the same buffoon that stood up Roy Nelson from his kimura on Arlovksi.
If I was Filho I'd just throw my moobs at him.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
did Mir just mention Jesus and Woody Harrelson in the same sentence? wow please mark these quotes down
Play It to the Bone
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2008 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
This is just sad. I’m worried for Filho.
Pretty sad that Sonnen showed so little offense. What a shitty shitty shitty fight.
Filho didn’t look like he wanted to be there. I agree that Sonnen didn’t show much.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 5, 2008 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Paulo Filho:
“That’s right, fall in to the calm, and in the 4th round, that’s when the trap will spring!”
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
this is what Sherdog said about the end of the second round
“Filho blows his nose as soon as the horn sounds. It could cause some swelling as the fight moves to the final period.”
Show up?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Nov 5, 2008 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mommy?
Paulo looked like a lost kid in a department store when the bell rang. Like he was KOd without ever being touched.
I wonder who he was really looking at. I mean, directly after the fight he was still looking elsewhere
David Price is in the arena?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
good it’s 30-27….and why did the ref hesitate to raise his arm? I would have been raising it before he announced the scorecards…this is the kind of farewell the MW division needed…wow no interview after? damn
cowboy vs mcullough
what happened to that fight?
do you realize they use the world excellent in all three of their key points when talking about fighters
I swear if I hear another fighter talk about ‘shocking the world’ in a title fight, I’m going to hunt Matt Serra down and pimp slap him…then he’ll knock me the hell out…but at least I’ll feel like I did something about it =b
MAYBE IF HE LAYS DOWN LONG ENOUGH EVERYONE WILL JUST GO HOME
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
This might be the worst night for WEC in a while.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I’m stuck at school doing work and both Jens and Faber lose.
Yep…God/Buddha/Flying Spaghetti Monster hates me…
And there goes the WEC’s golden boy. TERRIBLE night for the WEC. The 185 champ looks awful. Their promotion poster boy gets KTFO. WOW.
I was hoping for a Garcia/Faber fight but now it looks like Brown/Garcia unless Faber gets a quick rematch.
and worse
this comes on the heels of the EliteXC fiasco and the Silva debacle. Not a good couple months for MMA in general.
I think Randy is going to come up big in a few weeks and save the month for MMA. But yeah, not a good run the last few weeks at all.
Tonight was such a strange fight card. Complete lack of energy on the broadcast. Filho/Sonnen fight was one of the strangest fights I can remember and then Faber gets put away like he’s a can. Brown really did look that much better and stronger than Faber. I think Faber got exposed a bit tonight.
GREATEST TUF PRANK EVER
Way better then the upperdecker.
haha yeah… he looks like one of those inbred deformed psychotic cannibals alright
by cauliflower_ears on Nov 6, 2008 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
He got caught
He def wasn’t prepared for Brown’s stength either.
So, it now looks like Fabers real only weakness is his chin. Although that was a pretty stiff shot by Brown that would have flattened anyone in the 145 division.
If I had to pay to watch this on PPV I’d be mad right now. One of the worst WECs ever.
and wow… I can’t believe Faber lost like that. Brown is a tough dude.
by cauliflower_ears on Nov 5, 2008 10:38 PM EST reply actions
Osterneck and Faber lost in the same fashion. They went for the dumbest move ever. Why would attempt a spinning backfist (or elbow) at that point in the fight? It makes no sense and it cost them both a victory (most likely).
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Well, it certainly was unexpected. I thought Faber would collect himself from the cage and right himself and gather for attack or defense, but he just came flying off the cage right at him. Hand it to Brown, his timing and aim was perfect, cause Faber was coming at him fast. I thought the ref could’ve let the champ eat a few more shots before calling it though, unless he saw something I didn’t.
Urijah took 23 unanswered shots. The ref really can’t let it go any further than that. Urijah’s style is one of reckless unexpected moves like that and its worked for him up until tonight. Had he caught brown with that elbow everybody would be like OMG THATS SOOOOO AWEEEESOME!!! It didn’t work out and he ran straight into a wicked shot. A rematch will be forthcoming shortly.
Ironically enough Urijah walked out of the cage in better shape than Brown did – what the hell happened to him?
Faber landed some big shots before getting caught. I think he caught Brown with a pretty solid knee to the body, and it looked immediately after the fight like Brown was in some pain — ribs, maybe?
I know. I was just answering the question about why Brown looked to be in worse shape when they left the cage. Faber got rocked and wasn’t able to answer, but once the fight was over and he got his senses again, there was no real physical damage. Brown, on the other hand, appears to have suffered some kind of a rib injury from some of the shots Faber did land, and that damage didn’t just go away before they left the cage.
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