WEC Middleweight Champ Paulo Filho Misses Weight
by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 4, 2008 10:11 PM EST
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Paulo Filho missed weight by a whopping 7 lbs on his first attempt, weighing in at 192. He now has 2 hours to cut down. I have yet to hear any word on if Sonnen's people would consider taking the fight at a catch weight, but this just goes to show that Filho's outside the cage distractions are a major factor here and have carried over into his conditioning. He is not new to this game and 7 lbs is no minor miss.
Mike Brown weighed in half a pound heavy also, but should be able to cut that easily.
ALSO, Rani Yahya missed weight but Yoshiro Maeda has agreed to fight him at the weigh-in amount rather than force a single pound cut.
Updates to come as they're made available.
UPDATE #1: From Sherdog:
The undefeated Brazilian checked in at 192 pounds -- a whopping seven pounds over his contracted weight limit -- for his rematch with Chael Sonnen. “How much?” a dismayed Sonnen asked, with longtime trainer Matt Lindland at his side. The Team Quest middleweight had no such trouble meeting the 185-pound threshold; Sonnen tipped the scales at 184.5.
Filho, whose personal problems away from the cage in recent months have been well-chronicled, was afforded an additional two hours to cut seven pounds.
“Right now, it’s not even a fight,” Sonnen said. “The contract’s at 185. I have faith in him. I think he can pull it off in two hours. I’m looking forward to it. I’ve prepared properly.”
All reports have said that Brown made weight on his second attempt. But so far no word on if Filho has made weight yet or if Sonnen will be willing to take the fight at this current weight difference.
UPDATE #2: We're now hearing confirmations that the Filho/Sonnen fight is non-title. MMAWeekly reports:
MMAWeekly.com on Tuesday evening confirmed with WEC officials that Filho got down to 189 pounds on his second attempt, therefore making the bout ineligible for championship designation. The two camps did come to terms, which were not disclosed, allowing the fight to go on as a three-round non-title bout.
Despite losing its championship luster, the bout is still holds important implications for Filho and Sonnen. With the WEC discontinuing both the middleweight and light heavyweight divisions at the end of this year, this bout is expected to serve as a qualifier, likely to launch the winner into the WEC's sister promotion, the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
Check out the picture on that MMAWeekly report. Filho looks bad. I know part of it is the lighting, but he just doesn't look right at all.
UPDATE #3 ( by Cannon Jacques): The WEC later reported that Filho will forfeit 25% of his purse to Sonnen as a result of missing weight. Props to MMAWeekly.
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Number 2, huh?
I’m over this guy. He’s not going to make the cut. That’s just embarrassing…
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, shit. That’s all I can say at this point.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 4, 2008 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know what the implications of this is?
I know if the challenger fails to make weight the title shot is off, but what happens if the champion fails to do so?
by Tonley on Nov 4, 2008 6:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Generally...
it becomes a non-title affair also.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 4, 2008 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to a title fight that doesn’t really mean anything, since the belt gets thrown in the trash at the end of the night
by smoogy on Nov 4, 2008 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's still the same
To say you were the WEC Middleweight Champion. Shit, the last WEC Middleweight Champion. It’s a very distinct honor, you could say.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then it was smart of Filho to miss weight so badly
Now Sonnen can’t take it from him!
j/k of course, I don’t mean to excuse Filho, but the circumstances here are pretty unique. But it would seem reasonable that competing for a obsolete belt when you’re the reigning champ might affect your motivation
by smoogy on Nov 4, 2008 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
although it probably means a lot to Sonnen.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In boxing....
IF the champion won, the title would become vacant. But if the challenger wins, he would become champion.
by JCS_FM on Nov 4, 2008 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you could win the title then perpetually miss weight and be the champion forever!
You could just come in at a different weight class altogether.
Win the 170 belt, come in at 205 for every fight with a cheese burger in each hand on the scales.
by DirtyML on Nov 4, 2008 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he’d prefer to catch at the aforementioned light heavyeight.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope...
heavyseven…not eight
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 4, 2008 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m glad you made that joke, so that I didn’t have to embarrass myself by making it.
by Richard Wade on Nov 4, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess that pic the other day was recent. This is unacceptable. I can see being off by a pound, these guys don’t want to cut more than they need to, but 7 is ridiculous.
Considering his recent mess, he should be stripped if he fails to drop the pounds.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
I’m done with this dude. Welcome to the shit list, Paulo.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
7 to me...
seems like a guy who doesn’t want to fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 4, 2008 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i gotta agree...
maybe he’s gaining weight from the zoloft, but his personal problems have seemed like way out. imho
by dugmouth on Nov 4, 2008 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts. I remember people joking about his chins and all. Seven is too much – it’s like Carano too much.
by mythbuster on Nov 4, 2008 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BJJDenver
i agree. and he is listed at being only 5’8 tall. miguel torres is listed at 5’9 and fights at 135. he just didnt want to put in the work. this guy would get killed at lhw (filho i mean).
by bdw on Nov 4, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, i know he has talked about making the move in the past, but i look at him and no way should he be a lhw. If he was ripped at 185, fine. but he looks very smooth even when he makes weight.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I start calling him..
Paulo Filo Dough, will people understand?
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking Fatty McFatterson.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps not as thoughtful..
..but arguably more concise. I mean, maybe he doesn’t even like baklava.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, my thoughtfulness didn’t make the time change, lol.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I expect an eloquent nickname for Filho to arrive in approx. 55 minutes then.
by Day Man on Nov 4, 2008 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, pressure. Pressure!!
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Filo Dough is very good.
How about Pudgy Filo Dough?
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How about..
Rollie Pollie Filho Dough?
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Junkie is reporting, that, as expected, Mike Brown has made weight on his 2nd attempt.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 6:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know..
..if the Maeda fight is being televised? I can probably check the WEC website.. I became an instant fan after his classic match with Torres.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just saw..
This is a great card. They should add some airtime..
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SHIT
Even the Cerrone fight isn’t being televised??? They better squeeze..
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Roshalt
is a pretty good finisher and for his opponent to win it absolutely won’t be by decision. Should make extra time.
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 7:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
7lbs on the first attempt?
Thats like saying this guy didn’t even bother cutting weight the last week. As if he were wingin’ it.
If I recall correctly Alves weighed in 4lbs over when he fought Hughes. And that was heinous. 7lbs…. dear lord. Will the fight even take place?
by Discman2 on Nov 4, 2008 7:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Filho originally weighed in a shocking seven pounds over the 185-pound limit. He could only drop from 192 to 189 pounds after being given an additional two hours to make weight, according to the WEC.
Non-title now.
by Beer Monster on Nov 4, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey its not that bad
Nick Diaz weighed in at 9 lbs over against Corbbrey
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know its the last ever middleweight bout but Filho really should be stripped of the title immediately. I remember at UFC 51 when Evan Tanner and David Terrell were fighting for the title that both fighters weighed in heavy the first time. Tanner made weight, and Marc Ratner told him that if Terrell doesn’t make weight the fight will still be a title belt just that Terrell can’t win it.
The same thing should apply here.
by SamCupitt on Nov 4, 2008 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This has to be bad for Fhilo’s career, he didn’t just miss weight he completely blew it. I can’t see how he stays at Middleweight after this and going into the UFC light heavyweight division is going to be tough for him.
by who me on Nov 4, 2008 8:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Probably goes to the UFC as a light heavyweight and gets punished… Dana style… by being matched up against Chuck Liddell. The worst possible match-up for Filho…ever.
by SamCupitt on Nov 4, 2008 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s gotta get thrown to the wolves, I think. If he can weather the storm and remain undefeated, we’ll see where he is in a year. But for now, he’s gotta face low-upside (in victory), tough up and comers. He still stays at 185, that’s pretty much guaranteed. But nothing’s coming easy to him now.. Sonnen better be taking home half of Filho’s purse, at least. I feel bad for that guy. I’ve been saying, Filho is a fucking albatross on the career of Chael Sonnen.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt, Filho deserves all the criticism that’s coming at him. Making weight indicates that you’re at least serious about living up to your end of the bargain going into the fight. The guy is damn talented. From that perspective, I hate to see him tarnish his career in this manner. If you don’t want to fight, don’t. If you’re going to, you have to at least come in at the prescribed weight.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 4, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s had problems hitting 185 in all of his WEC fights and there has been rumblings about him moving up to 205 in the past. He is a incredibly talented fighter but he just has a huge problem hitting 185 for some reason.
by who me on Nov 4, 2008 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
T-Rex Arms
Dude has to stay at 185..
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree but for some reason the dude just has problems hitting 185.
by who me on Nov 4, 2008 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well shit, he should hire a nutritionist or something..
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he needs to do something but the guy has a lot of problems.
by who me on Nov 4, 2008 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Paulo is lost
After seeing his picture and his recent struggles, I am going to predict (albeit boldly) that he looks terrible in this fight and Chael TKOs him in the first round.
by DirtyML on Nov 4, 2008 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very interesting note..
Perhaps more interesting is that Filho’s cornerman indicated to Lindland that they would give up the title belt if Sonnen wins. “His cornermen told us that they would walk across the cage and hand Chael the belt if he wins. When Chael whoops his ass, I expect them to live up to their word.”
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That would be the thing for Filho to do.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
please, if there is a god...
let this statement be true…
by dugmouth on Nov 4, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On a positive note, perhaps this will allow time for an extra fight on what should have been a 3 hour show. Excellent card, imo.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 8:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or two
Good point. Cerrone/Razor and the Maeda fight both make air, I’m hoping. This is definitely a great card.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WEC always puts the best fights on the undercard.
Sad but true, and we never get a chance to see them.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 4, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um no they don't
The undercard for WEC 34 couldn’t hold a candle to the main card. As special as Aldo vs Pequeno sounded it SUCKED. Razor Robs team was right next to me and THEY were booing. (Ironic considering how boring his match was.) Watching Aldo finally catch up to him after all Pequeno’s running and beat the shit outta him was nice though and Cruz vs Valencia was admittedly pretty good. McKenzie vs Lang was only good if you like the local journeyman fighter with juice from the crowd beating a huge lay’n’pray favorite with a choke and leaving him sleeping in the ring after 2 rounds of Lay’n’Pray. Sapo vs Serdyukov was forgettable. Riberio vs Beebe was a wrestling match and Brown Lay’n’prayed Curran.
Castillo vs Cerrone was pretty good but they showed that on TV anyways. Grigsby vs Munoz shouldn’t have been on the main card but at least it was exciting. Then the main 2 were Torres and Urijah’s fights. Both awesome. Torres Maeda was a FotY candidate.
Thats 4 good fights that showed and 1 really crappy one. Compared to 5 that were largely forgettable to 1 that was pretty awesome on the undercard.
The undercard
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
the more I think about it, I can’t understand why this isn’t 3 hours. Considering the strong likelihood that we will see the WEC going ppv the first half of 2009, it seems it would be a great opportunity to provide exposure to fighters that likely will be involved.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 4, 2008 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed..
I’ve never understood why all the UFN’s are not 3 hours. Sometimes the under card is just as good as the main card. It’s not as if Spike or Versus has other programming that can bring in better ratings.
by steveoc24 on Nov 4, 2008 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spike may have something to get as good of ratings but you can pretty much guarantee that Versus doesn’t. The question would be how much more would it cost the network for 3 hours compared to two hours.
by who me on Nov 4, 2008 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It should also be noted..
Someone should tell Filho that just because he idolizes Iron Mike and got him tattooed on his arm doesn’t mean he has to compete with him in the crazy department. CHAEL! IMA EAT YO CHILDRENS!
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hockey on the west coast
that would be my only guess as to something that bring in similar ratings.
By the way… Signing Filho’s death warrant now is all well and good but uh… What happened when Alves came in 4 lbs heavy for the Hughes fight?
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Come on..
Are you kidding? He cancalled a fight with Sonnen because he was depressed and then put off rescheduling it. Then a hurricane delayed their last match up. This is the third time they’re supposed to rematch for the title, and he comes in seven over. Not even remotely close to being a comparable situation.
by Blackout612 on Nov 4, 2008 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He canceled the fight because he was in withdrawl from being addicted to Rohypnol, this makes me wonder if he’s having struggles with staying clean.
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But if he somehow gets Sonnen down the result will be the same at 92, 192 or 292 lbs. Submission victory Filho
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 9:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
not making weight in a title fight is hugely demoralizing. I expect Paulo will get his ass whipped tomorrow.
by Kid Nate on Nov 4, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, just doesnt look like his head is focused where it should be. If he isnt at the right weight then you can only guess the rest of his game isnt up to scratch either.
by Benicio on Nov 4, 2008 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he’s not in withdrawl from Rohypnol this time like he likely was during the last fight, (in order to pass the piss tests), I suspect he’ll be fine. One will balance out the other.
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 10:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
but he’ll still not have made weight. I mean…there really isn’t a lot of good that comes out of this. Even a win is a tainted win now.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 5, 2008 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's looked like crap in all his US fights
because up until then he was probably still strung out until the day of the fight and immediately went and got tore back as soon as it was over. No piss test to deter you theres no need to break your addiction
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 10:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Sonnen
whups his ass like everybody is predicting I’ll be here to take some shit
by skwirrl on Nov 4, 2008 10:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sad. Doesn;’t sound like his heart is in the game right now. I have sympathy for him because depression is a serious illness. He should not be fighting right now and think his career is certainly at a crossroads.
by lbk on Nov 4, 2008 11:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
racism, hate or do you have some kind of DNA proof of your claim?
by Benicio on Nov 5, 2008 2:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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