"Nobody Wants To See It" Part 2

i want to see it.

As a fan i like to see it because, like before, Its 2 big stars fighting. But the difference now is that its randy’s weight class that Liddell is invading, both are coming off loses, both are close to retiring, and that this fight would have title shot implications..

I would also like to see how liddell performs at a higher weight. Would he have more in the gas tank since he doesnt wont cut weight anymore, or would he come in with the biggest belly in liddell history? i doubt its the 2nd one but hey, with 2 superstars fighting.. im in..

This is just a way for Dana to give a Chuck a tune-up fight. If Chuck was fighting James Irvin or Antoni Hardonck everyone would be going ape.

Chuck should fight Gonzaga and Randy should fight the Mir/Nog loser.

Wow. Who turned down Silva/Liddell II? That’s idiotic. Although we did get Wanderlei K Jardine TFO in return, so Joe Silva always opens a window when closing a door, I suppose.

Oh, and Gonzaga would murder Chuck Liddell. Isn’t this the same Internet that thought Brock fighting a 225 Randy called for a new weight class? How quickly we forget.

Clearly the motivating factor for the UFC in large be what they are able to sell effectively, but I don’t bedrudge the hardcore fan their view either. I realize its my personal bias and that that shouldn’t play a central role in UFC matchmaking, but the truth is the second Ortiz – Liddell fight was pawned off as a match of the two best at that weight because new fans simply didn’t know the difference. If you’re a hardcore fan, you have to separate what you personally enjoy from what makes business sense, but it’s not necessarily true that because a fight makes money that’s it’s also therefore compelling. I’ll watch a Liddell vs. Couture 4, but it doesn’t really intrigue me. And neither did the second and third Ortiz -Shamrock/Ortiz – Liddell 2. Financial success and shrewd business move? Sure. Compelling matchmaking on sporting grounds? Not even close.

We would all feel very differently about this. I like seeing no one get hit in the head more than Tito Ortiz.

i’m excited about this fight, simply because i havent been following the sport that long, and didn’t get to see the first three live. do i think it’ll be as exciting as the previous fights? probably not. but who cares… two legends going at it one more time. no complaints here.

I also think it really kills of one of their major draws. Chuck can’t afford to lose again, especially to someone he’s beaten twice, whereas Randy only has a few fights left so why waste it on a rematch that isn’t for a title. Why not just have on the same card fighting differant opponents?

Randy vs Nog!

I want to see it, its at heavy weight this time anywho

Randy Couture has not even been approached for this fight, nor has Chuck Liddell. However, the fight is something that has been talked about, absolutely, no question. And everyone is ripping on this fight saying ‘nobody wants to see this fight, nobody wants to see this fight. It makes no sense.’ And I’m sitting here going, like, I think this fight makes tremendous sense because one of them will win and you can bring him to another big fight and it’s a fight that will probably draw real, real well.

Every time they (the UFC) does a rematch…virtually every time it’s bigger than the first one.

And the worst part is, the UFC monitors these boards because, as well known, they were going to do a Chuck Liddell/Wanderlei Silva rematch, and they got so much crap that they decided to hold it off. It’s like, why would you hold off doing a rematch of a match that did one of the better buy rates in recent years and was a fantastic match…?

- Dave Meltzer

Tito and Ken, each one was bigger than the last.

- Bryan Alvarez

All quotes courtesy the 11/24/2008 edition of Wrestling Observer Radio (members only).

Eh people overestimate how much damage losing does to a fighters reputation I think. It’s not nearly as much whether they win all the time as much as their personality or style that appeals to people. Once a fighter is established, as long as he’s putting up good fights I think he’ll do ok.

If it were just about winning, Machida would be HUGE.

90% of a fight’s appeal is all the speculation about how two fighters match up, and what they can do to answer each others strengths. All those questions are out the door when they’ve already fought once, let alone 3 times.

Of course Ill watch it, but I’d much rather see Chuck fight the loser of Evans/Griffin and Couture fight the loser of Nog/Mir.

In 2008, the UFC cancelled Wanderlei Silva vs. Chuck Liddell 2 because online fans did not want to see rematches.

I don’t remember this happening. Had it happened I would have questioned the move, but not been totally against it.

As for Couture/Liddell 4. Do I really want to see the matchup again? Not particularly. Will I watch it if they make it happen? Yes. And it’s funny there should be a post about this fight(a forth meeting between the two fighters) because last night I watched Raging Bull and as everyone (should) know LaMotta and Sugar Ray Robinson fought something like six times and each fight was as exciting if not more than the last.

I don’t want to see Chuck and Randy fight again – I don’t care if it’s in another weight class. 3 was more than enough – the last one was too much to handle as well – I almost wept.

Have Chuck fight Gonzaga and Randy fight Mir (I don’t see him winning against Nog).

Yes sequel bouts usually do better but this IV (four). The last two fights ended the second Randy stepped into Chuck’s range. This series lacks a library of memorable action, has no bad blood, no unfinished business and another rematch would be perceived as a career elimination bout . . . ya that downer will really get fans excited.

Listen, if you want to give Chuck or Randy a Heavyweight title match than go ahead and book it . . . I’m there. This setup match isn’t required and not compelling.

I want to see it…

I want to see Randy rematch Tito at heavyweight