Jason Chambers Arrested for Rape and Drug Charges - [UPDATE] Case Rejected
by Nick Thomas on Nov 21, 2008 11:10 AM EST
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TMZ.com has the story:
The host of "The Human Weapon" on the History Channel was arrested earlier this month after allegedly raping someone in L.A..[UPDATE] D.A. Says No Go On Jason Chambers:
Jason Chambers, an experienced martial artist who's also been in several soap operas, was arrested on November 11 on suspicion of sexual assault and drug charges -- and we're told cops think he may have used intoxicants to commit the rape.
The 28-year-old was released after posting $200,000 bail. He's due back in court December 5.
The DA hasn't filed charges yet, but a source says that's comin' soon.
Story developing ...
The L.A. County District Attorney has rejected the case against Jason Chambers, the host of "Human Weapon" on The History Channel.[UPDATE] Jason Chambers responds on the UG:
As we first reported, Chambers was arrested November 11 for allegedly raping a woman. Cops also believed he used some sort of drug to allegedly commit the sexual assault.
The D.A.'s office tells us they rejected the case because of "insufficient evidence."
Chambers's attorney, Adam Zolonz, tells TMZ, "After taking the matter under submission, the DA's office found the lack of corroboration, delay in reporting, and the numerous defenses presented ... to warrant a rejection of the complaint's ludicrous contentions."
For the record....I didnt rape anyone.
Take care guys, and thanks for the support!
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oofa! He seemed like a nice guy on that tv show.
by mythbuster on Nov 21, 2008 11:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
I would guess Chambers has little problem getting girls, so I’m always shocked when something like this happens.
If true, I just don’t understand what people think when they do shiz like this???
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 11:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The ability to “get girls” and the willingness to rape someone are not necessarily correlated.
by Luke Thomas on Nov 21, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that is true. It just seems like he had a lot to lose by doing something like this.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I guess I’m glad that I don’t understand the mindset of somebody that has the ability to do something like this.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the problem is that you’re falling into two classic mistakes:
- thinking of rape as a replacement for sex. It’s not that he can’t get sex – this is violence, not sex, and
- assuming that the person he raped was a girl. Does it say that in the article? I see “person” – what does that make you think?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a bizarre claim by some evolutionary psychologists that rape could be an adaptation by non-alpha males to procreate – since they cannot find mates who will willingly have offspring, they use other means of reproducing. I don’t buy it, but I find it a perversely amusing rationalization.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why dont they just evolve into being gay?
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Nov 21, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then they wouldn’t be able to procreate at all.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s one of the biggest arguments against Darwinian evolution – since there is no apparent advantage to homosexuality, why wasn’t it selected out of the gene pool? However, this counters the idea that homosexuality is a choice and not innate, which counters much far-right-wing ideology, and the whole damn thing turns into a political mess instead of scientific debate. Bleh.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was actually a journal article on this recently: about lateral maintenance of homosexual genetics in that siblings without children provide an evolutionary advantage to entire families, thus ensuring that their shared genetics are selected for. I haven’t had the chance to read the whole thing, but it looks interesting.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the thing about evolution: Polydactyly occurs in one out of every 500 births. [That’s extra fingers or toes, for the non-doctory types.] If there’s that much natural variation in physical outcomes, I don’t think we can really be terribly sure about how something as complicated as the brain is going to turn out.
(Not that I’m equating homosexuality with a disorder.)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jems! Was wondering where you went off to. Glad to see you back :)
by mythbuster on Nov 21, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I’m here. I’m ALWAYS HERE.
And to celebrate, the better answer than what I wrote:
Then they wouldn’t be able to procreate at all.
Gays don’t need to procreate. They recruit! HAYO!
Sorry….
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re playing a dangerous game now. haha
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather put my faith in the dozens and dozens of psychological studies that suggest the primary issue is power and/or control, followed by emotional/mental breakage as the distant second motivating factor. It makes perfect sense.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Siding with empiricism rather than specious theorizing? It’ll never catch on…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, there’s no reason that it can’t be both, right? I mean, if the issue is dominance in your opinion, and the problem of being a beta male is that you have no dominance.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, kinda but not really. For one thing, the existence of clear cut “alpha” and “beta” personality types has never actually been established. In reality, everyone is dominant in some situations and submissive in others. Human social interaction is way too complex to fall into simple hierarchies of dominance; that model was copied from the animal kingdom years ago, but over time it’s been found to not even fit properly there. It really breaks down entirely with humans. It’s kinda like the Bering Strait theory: it looked good on paper, but the more people tried to make the evidence fit the model, the less likely it actually seemed. For another thing, most sexual assaults are crimes of passion, meaning a lack of premeditation. Again, that speaks to a situational trigger – a temporary loss of power/status/control that sets someone off and causes a break with the rational thought process – rather than an innate personality “flaw” or “adaptation”. And finally, many studies have also shown that excessive power can cause the same kind of break. Access to an unusually high level of power can suffer a similar break in that their need to express their power position overrides normal analytical functions. And that’s not even getting into the critique of the view of evolutionary genetics that seems pretty skewed for that view to work, but without having read the report, I couldn’t really say.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The evolutionary psychologists, from what I can tell, are a bunch of cranks. The last time I read an article by one of them I did a search and everything else the guy had written sounded like it came off of a neo-nazi website, full of these people are evolved to be better at math or shoe-making or something. Madness.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. New Scientist Magazine had an article on evolutionary psychology recently. Scary stuff.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh! Which issue? I get NS from my library.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll look it up when I get home. It was both an editorial and a feature article talking about a bunch of evolutionary psychologists who have gotten into bed with religious fundamentalists and are trying to prove that while the brain may have been created by evolution, only God (capital G, of course) could have made the “mind”.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Evo Psych is a fair field of study, it’s just difficult to determine causation. Did A cause B, or B cause A, or maybe A and B are unrelated? It’s hard to prove anything because of the lack of effective experimentation. It’s also easy to twist for unethical means (see the above rape argument). The best books on the matter are this and this.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s a quote from Satoshi Kanazawa, the most vocal evolutionary psychologist:
“Imagine that, on September 11, 2001, when the Twin Towers came down, the President of the United States was not George W. Bush, but Ann Coulter. What would have happened then? On September 12, President Coulter would have ordered the US military forces to drop 35 nuclear bombs throughout the Middle East, killing all of our actual and potential enemy combatants, and their wives and children. On September 13, the war would have been over and won, without a single American life lost. Yes, we need a woman in the White House, but not the one who’s running.”
CRAZY.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure “CRAZY.” does that quote justice.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, that’s batshit wacko, bit what does that have to do with EvoPsych? Was he using it to justify the genocide? It’s easy to pluck damning quotes from extremists. How respected is Kanazawa in the scientific community; how is he peer reviewed? Someone like Steven Pinker is very well-respected, and he’s a very unassuming guy.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I found Satoshi Kanazawa on Psychology Today, including the article with the above quote – he’s a rather short-sighted man. He is completely obsessed with scientific Truth that he overlooks any moral or ethical guidelines (hence the pro-nuclear rant). If he really believes that empirical Truth should be the only concern, then he needs to stop moralizing.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
INDEED.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So the true observations are important foundations of both basic science and social policy, if you do care about solving social problems, which of course I don’t.
What a tool.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is often true. The problem is that evo psych has become the last bastion of the eugenics crowd, and they seem to have done a fair job of taking the centre position in most discussions.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I could have sworn eugenics was still alive and well what with abortion disproportionately keeping down the population of certain ethnic groups much as was the intention of early 20th century eugenicists.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not touching your larger point with a ten-foot-pole, but according to economists who have analyzed the data, abortion doesn’t lower the number of children born, it spreads them out. A woman who was statistically going to have 3 kids (based on age, location, education, blah, blah, blah) who has an abortion during her second pregnancy is still likely to have 2 more kids.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gay jokes, but not going after the abortion comment, huh? I knew you had to have limits.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind accusing people of rape – but abortion can really offend people!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 25, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What the fuck? He seemed very likable on that show.
by cauliflower_ears on Nov 21, 2008 11:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He’s also innocent until proven guilty.
by Luke Thomas on Nov 21, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
its pretty easy to go through life without being accused of rape
and thats all im gonna say on that
….wow
just wow
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Nov 21, 2008 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, but not always true.
When I was in high school (senior year), me and a buddy took a couple of girls out and they drank some beer. Now I’m talking 2-3 cans of grocery store beer. One got wasted, and got in trouble with her parents who were pretty well known in the community and friends of my family. So what did she say to them to cover herself? That I tried to sexually assault her. After plenty of drama, she finally fessed up, but that was a pretty uncomfortable couple of days. I’m sure this isn’t uncommon, and certainly not on the level of what may or may not have transpired in cases like this, but it is absolutely easy to get caught in a bad situation.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And in NO way am i defending Chambers, but like Luke said, innocent until proven guilty.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a fraternity brothers life almost ruined by a whore who claimed she was raped. The school laid the smack down on him, tried to kick him out, confiscated his property and socially ostracized him. After investigation the local DA figured the whore was lying and actually tried to defend him to the school. Ultimately they said he could return AFTER she graduated – two years. Now even though he has a degree he still has to explain to employers why there is a two year gap in his studies despite excellent grades.
You think a rape charge is a priori true until you see someone at the lying end of a whore who cried wolf.
by Luke Thomas on Nov 21, 2008 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wow, that is just sickening.
Not only did it ruin a portion of his life, but it makes the rest of us question whether these incidents are true, which isn’t fair to the women who ARE victimized.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks for your frat bro.
There tends to be a knee jerk reaction to certain acusations, such as rape. Even if this doesn’t go to court, and Chambers is innocent, this could basically ruin his career, even his life. False acusations, especially of this nature, are brutal. There really should be more legal reprecaution for knowingly falsly accusing someone of something as detrimental as rape. This in and of itself can be used as a weapon.
Now I’m not saying Chambers is guilty or innocent; I’m just sayin’ it’s not unusual for someone to be falsely accused.
by pud333 on Nov 21, 2008 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“This in and of itself can be used as a weapon.”
Not just a weapon…a Human Weapon.
Sorry, I had to, lol.
I hope he is innocent. He was very likable on tv.
by JacRabbit on Nov 21, 2008 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did he go to Duke?
Sounds like the Duke Lacrosse case a few years back..
by lbk on Nov 21, 2008 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, admittedly I should have known I’d be late with that joke.
by Brett Jones on Nov 21, 2008 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The sick part is
that most of the posters here know someone who’s gone through this. It’s vile, and a ridiculous abuse of a privilege we afford our citizenry, and for what? It’s not like anything is gained by the woman by falsely crying ‘rape,’ all that happens is someone’s life gets ruined.
The stigma either needs to go away entirely (and men need to start behaving like the rest of the world, suing the hell out of people who are perceived to be discriminating against them based on a false accusation) or the punishment for false accusations needs to go up about five notches.
All that said, rape is a really pathetic, and destructive behavior which should be punished severely.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Nov 21, 2008 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have questions. Do you think:
- There are more rapes each year or more false accusations of rape?
- There are more unreported rapes each year or more false accusations of rape?
- There are more unreported rapes each year or more reported rapes?
Nobody likes the idea of somebody being falsely accused, and this is certainly a tricky point of law. But given how hard it is to PROVE rape even when it genuinely happens (life ain’t CSI, folks), I don’t think we want to shift the line too much.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point, but that's the wrong angle to take, jem.
The answer isn’t to punish more people, the answer is to punish those who do it as severely as possible, negating as much of the repeat factor as possible. Don’t start equivocating overall numbers, and once it’s close just accept it and move on. I’m not saying that’s your actual position, but that’s where the attitude expressed in the above post leads.
Absolutely there are more unreported rapes than go reported. As to the other questions, I really have no idea, and haven’t formed an opinion one way or the other. You could present evidence to me saying one outweighs the other 100:1 and I’d shrug my shoulders, since I have no frame of reference at the moment.
As far as I’m concerned though, society views sex offenders pretty much the way we should, and I think the treatment they receive is appropriate, from the societal sanctions perspective. But the legal accusation of rape is enough to ruin a persons’ life, and right now there is no backlash against a person who falsely accuses rape. There needs to be protection for the accused, and it needs to be part of the legal system.
I’m not saying that if the case gets overruled due to lack of evidence that the woman (or man, as the case may be) should be punished automatically. But if it’s proven definitively that she did, in fact, falsely accuse him of the crime, then she needs to be punished severely. That’s my perspective, anyways.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Nov 21, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What we’re running into is that it’s almost impossible to prove that anything in particular happened to anyone who wasn’t there. Proving that somebody was raped is hard. Proving that somebody wasn’t raped and is lying about it? Nearly impossible. You know?
In addition, the idea that the men who are falsely accused are unable to get back the life/earning power/respect that they had before-hand isn’t taking into account the legal options available to them: a civil suit for defamation.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The main difference is that rape isn’t civil, so the DA will take up your case and you don’t have to pay, if you’re the accuser. And most of the time, the accuser doesn’t have enough to go after in a civil suit anyways.
That stigma sticks with a person once they’ve been accused of a sex crime. It just never goes away, no matter what happens in court.
I understand that it’s nearly impossible to prove rape if measures aren’t taken immediately. And I’m ok with the current framework for that, but if the accused turns around and soundly proves that rape did not occur, then there should be severe criminal penalties for the accuser. That’s what I’m getting at. I’d like to see an end to all this litigation in our country. It’s non-productive.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Nov 21, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent points. I would absolutely say unreported by far. The thing is, how many women don’t report them, because they don’t think anything will happen to the rapist, partially due to all the false claims.
Just a bad situation I wish didn’t exist.
http://eliotmarshall.com/
by BJJDenver on Nov 21, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think there have been studies where in some areas false rape allegations make up more than half of total forcible rape cases. There’s no good way to quantify unreported rape, though.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just as a final note (days later) the conviction rate for rape cases is less than 5% of the time. Now, whether that’s because 95% of cases are false allegations or that it’s incredibly hard to get a conviction for rape, I leave to the BE community to decide.
Either way, things seem to be working in favor of the rapists somehow.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 25, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
on a related note...
some agents of pro-athletes encourage their clients to videotape their one-night- stands in case something like this happens.
by steak_knife on Nov 21, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They also ask them to drop off copies of the tapes at their office, so we can’t say for sure what the motivation is.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its pretty easy to go through life without being accused of rape
and thats all im gonna say on that
and its pretty easy to be falsely accused too. Ask them lacross players from a couple years ago.
But yeah, innocent until proven guilty.
by mythbuster on Nov 21, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only reason those guys made it through intact is their fathers having deep pockets, banding together and launching simultaneous attacks against the school, the DA and the stripper.
Most of us mortal men would have gotten locked away by that railroad job. That case is one of the major legal victories of our time, at least in my mind.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Nov 21, 2008 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup. Unfortunately its one of those things that become true the moment the word is uttered. It becomes a case of proving it didn’t happen, rather than proving it did.
by mythbuster on Nov 21, 2008 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not that I’m on the side of the stripper, and not that I’m saying those fellas did anything wrong, but one of the easy ways to go through life without being accused of rape is to not be around a naked woman in a group of 8 (or whatever) guys.
I’m just saying.
[Also: what is that about, anyway? Why do I want to watch my buddy get his freak on (or simulate same)? Or why do I want him to watch me? Or are they just too cheap to get individual attention?]
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe in a court of law.
But this, sir, this is a blog. And here we try people in the court of public opinion.
Quick, quick, before any more facts come out: let’s put up a poll to determine his guilt or innocence!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Rape"
If only he had shouted “Surprise!” beforehand, technically, it wouldn’t have been illegal..
by Storeo on Nov 21, 2008 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s only when you’re with someone that loves you and won’t let you go backdoor.
And the proper interjection in that case is ‘Whoops!’
by subo on Nov 21, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Second the “whoops” because “surprise” will get you punched.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spoken with the authority that comes from experience.
Also no good: “Hey, this way it’s just like your sister!”
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t had the misfortune of dropping the sister line, but I suspect it wouldn’t go over well.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Missed that episode
i must have missed the episode where they used roofies as a weapon
by DUGASWARRIOR on Nov 21, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If by "it" you mean...
a pump action with a 7 inch barrel
im not impressed with your performance
by troy145 on Nov 21, 2008 11:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not saying a bad word about this until I hear more. Innocent until proven guilty is exactly right.
by subo on Nov 21, 2008 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Curious..
“sexual assault and drug charges”
They did not say he raped anyone, yet the title does.
AFAIK, Sexual assault is a lesser charge than rape. So which one is it?
by DirtyML on Nov 21, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Depends on where the charges were filed, I think. I’m not familiar with California law, but in Canada – unless i"m way out of date here – rape is actually a subset of sexual assault in legal terms.
by AJB on Nov 21, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I swear I saw him sitting in, or near the front row at UFC91. I could be mistaken, though. If he was, it seems kinda odd – you’d think he’d be keeping a low profile until this was resolved.
by stray on Nov 21, 2008 1:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As much as I
and the rest of us jump on someone’s ass when a crazy story comes surfaces w/o knowing the intimate details, this is one such instance where we all should back way the fuck up. This is very serious & I do not want to downgrade it, but like some of the stories above shit like this sometimes turns out not to be completely accurate. I spent most of the day yesterday discussing the whole Fitch/UFC fiasco only to find out this morning it is all good.
by dnevil001 on Nov 21, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why bring common sense into this?
It’s the internet!!! Your teh ghey!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 21, 2008 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I promise only
to implement common sense when someone is accused of rape or murder.
by dnevil001 on Nov 21, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HDNet Signed with DREAM and K-1 GPs Through 2009!
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 21, 2008 1:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish I had an HDTV. I mean, if we’re wishing.
Also, I wish that all the peoples and nations of the earth could come together and join one another in peace. And after that I’d like a death ray.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Living without HDTV is a sad existence.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto living without a death ray. Sigh.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong topic…unless you want HDNet, DREAM, and K-1 associated with rape and drugs.
by iiowyn on Nov 21, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that you mention it…
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can not paying fighters be classified as rape?
by Phildo on Nov 21, 2008 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we all at least agree that the picture is deliciously appropriate?
by Rundownloser on Nov 21, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll agree on the delicious! ME-OW!
Sorry – I’ve been in the homosexuality thread above….
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Look at jemaleddin testing his boundaries.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m comfortable with my fake-internet-sexuality.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The D.A.'s office tells us they rejected the case because of "insufficient evidence."
That was quick.
by Richard Wade on Nov 21, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to think we, the fans, had a lot to do with this outcome
by Day Man on Nov 21, 2008 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, do we know the name of the supposed victim? Or what he does for a living?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding. jem’s on a roll.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Nov 21, 2008 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know a bunch of people have commented that he seems like a nice guy on the show, but I always get annoyed with him. Other than losing to Thiago Alves, he’s pretty undistinguished as an MMA Fighter. On the show I always felt like he was described as an MMA guy mostly because he had some lame tattoos and wore Von Dutch hats.
[And let’s note: I will be forever referring to him as, “accused-rapist Jason Chambers,” forever. It’s the least I can do.]
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s just cold. I like ‘alleged’ better.
by subo on Nov 21, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about:
“Jason Chambers, who has never been convicted of rape, was….”
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good news for Chambers.
http://mma4real.net/
by Tha Realness on Nov 21, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love the UG.
On that thread over at the UG, after Chambers posted that the DA had refused to pursue the case, people started posting asking “So, did you rape her?” That’s why he eventually posted, “For the record I did not rape anyone.”
And just for jemaleddin, I note that even over there his posts certainly do nothing to suggest it was a “she” in the first place. ;-)
by Kierkegaard on Nov 21, 2008 3:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
DUN, DUN, DUN!
Case closed: the man is a buggerer.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Nov 21, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the record….I didnt rape anyone.
Quote of the week.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Nov 21, 2008 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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