Quote of the Day: WWE.com Talks UFC 91

by Nick Thomas on Nov 16, 2008 7:05 PM EST in News Comment 44 comments

For Lesnar, the road to UFC gold proved surprisingly short. Within roughly six months, the former WWE Superstar climbed to the top of the ultimate fighting heap, capping his ascent with the upset victory over Couture.

Critics have noted that many of the fights on the UFC pay-per-view ended in the first round, leaving UFC producers scrambling to fill the three-hour event with content. The dearth of hearty competition left many viewers to watch less prestigious under-card fights and only served to bolster claims that UFC pay-per-view events can often be a "crap shoot" in regards to filling the full three hours.

For his part, Lesnar took the encouragment of the WWE Universe and the hard lessons forged during his fiery time at WWE and showed UFC and the world why he is not only a man of mettle but also a former three-time WWE Champion.

-- WWE.com.

photo via Eric Jamison.

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Critics have noted that many of the fights on the UFC pay-per-view ended in the first round, leaving UFC producers scrambling to fill the three-hour event with content. The dearth of hearty competition left many viewers to watch less prestigious under-card fights

wow, insanity… I guess they’ve been scripting hour long matches so much they forgot that people actually like to see fights get finished. Well, good for them. Let them keep their fans, and we MMA fans can enjoy the hell of a good show that last night was. I was quite happy to see all the fights, and undercard fights, and most very exciting.

And to anyone who thought watching those undercard fights was a bad thing — g’way.

by mythbuster on Nov 16, 2008 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

i agree, most fights were exciting,and i was expecting the undercard to be weak but the guys pulled it off and gave us more action packed fights.. how the hell is more fights being shown a bad thing??

who would prefer to watch 4 fights all going to the distance right? hahaha.

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by weoweoweo on Nov 16, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They make it sound like the UFC had troubles producing this show. I think most other orgs would have panicked at having so many fights end quick, but the UFC’s production never seemed to falter. I was impressed at how smooth this PPV went.

by Dropkick434 on Nov 16, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True,

that was a great card and every fight was enjoyable. I especially liked Hazelett/McCrory.

Hey Myth, can you agree with me now that Randy should have hung em up or stayed in LW?

by dnevil001 on Nov 17, 2008 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

heh

I never disagreed. I was one of the ones arguing that this wasn’t a test for Brock that people wanted to pretend it was. In short, it was a little old man getting beat up by a much bigger younger man.

And yeah, I love Randy too but reality is what it is.

by mythbuster on Nov 17, 2008 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Completely agree,

it adds a legend to his resume but not when that legend was at the top of his game.

by dnevil001 on Nov 17, 2008 10:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Did you guys find some osteoporosis results or something? That’s conjecture dudes.. Which is not to say it’s not true, but to say that there’s no telling. We’ll see how he looks in his next fight and use that as a barometer to tell whether Brock is that dominant in his progress or Randy needs to grab a sixer of Ensure and post up on the couch.

by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2008 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Some conjecture sure,

but did you see his face? He appears to have suddenly aged 10 years before our very eyes. My point was only that he should not have fought Lesnar at this age. He may do well against LW guys like Silva, Rampage but there was nothing to gain for him in this fight & everything to lose like looking old & not taking a punch

by dnevil001 on Nov 17, 2008 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure his accountant would disagree with your point that there was nothing to gain in this fight.

For Randy, it’s always been about the money. He’s done a good job of making it seem like other stuff, but if you look closely at his career decisions, it’s been about the cash.

by Phildo on Nov 17, 2008 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah,

but I meant other than money.

by dnevil001 on Nov 17, 2008 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

myth, I appreciate your desire to inject hyperbole

and flair to your posts regarding Lesnar, but I’m seriously sick of you calling everyone on this board liars if they said Randy would be a great fight and test for Brock.

Take it emotionally, as you usually do, and circuitously defend it using whatever methods you’ve seemingly perfected, but this haughty “You guys are just a bunch of liars trying to pimp your fake-o boy” schtick has definitely worn out its welcome with me. I’m not chesting up, just letting you know that for at least one person, you’ve crossed a line and I’d appreciate if you’d stop doing so.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Nov 17, 2008 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

misterjonez

I like you, I think you’re a nice guy and you generally make well reasoned arguments to back up your points. I don’t always agree with them, and I have a hunch that you and I will never agree on Brock. That said, I never want to be considered like some of the others on this blog (you know who I mean, I’m sure) who try to be as offensive as possible – on the contrary, I don’t want to offend anyone. So, if I have offended you, I apologize.

by mythbuster on Nov 17, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I appreciate your sincerity, myth.

I wasn’t hunting for an apology, but I’ll accept it in the honest manner in which it was offered. Mostly I’d just like it if we could move on from ascribing motive to each others’ positions and/or statements and continue with our debates in a more reasoned manner.

I thoroughly enjoy sparring with you over Brock, and I hope we can continue to do so in the future, with every bit the energy we’ve provided in the past. Let’s just steer clear of the personal attacks and declerations of motive, that’s all I’m after.

And if I’ve somehow misrepresented you in any of these posts and you’re upset about it, I honestly do apologize. No need for us MMA nerds to start turning on each other.

There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

by misterjonez on Nov 17, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow. I was feeling all good about hard-working wrestlers until I read this bullshit. WWE is still trying to let Brock pull the wagon.

by Heenan on Nov 16, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Ha.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Nov 16, 2008 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Couldnt agree more

What an exciting night of fights. There wasnt a boring fight on the card.

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by Brandon Jones on Nov 16, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

LOL@ WWE folk getting madd that the UFC is owning them in the PPV department.

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by Tha Realness on Nov 16, 2008 7:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

So the only way a match can be considered competitive is that it has to go to decision?

by Tonley on Nov 16, 2008 7:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The less prestigious under-card fights is what made this UFC one of the greatest PPV’s ever.

by steveoc24 on Nov 16, 2008 7:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

And exactly where are these critics? I haven’t heard or read one complaint about last nights event.

by steveoc24 on Nov 16, 2008 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

For his part, Lesnar took the encouragment of the WWE Universe and the hard lessons forged during his fiery time at WWE and showed UFC and the world why he is not only a man of mettle but also a former three-time WWE Champion.

He was a 3-time WWE Champion because it was in the script.

by Sooner Vince on Nov 16, 2008 7:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Pure comedy? Yes. But the funny thing is, they may be pointing their fans towards the UFC and risking losing them as WWE consumers.

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by BJJDenver on Nov 16, 2008 7:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm soooo mad...

U mean I spent my hard earned $$$ and got to see every fight on the card??? That’s B.S.!!!!! HA…No seriously, I too had my doubts about the card going into UFC 91, but not only did it satisfy me totally, It took the bad taste outta my mouth from UFC 90 also. I CAN’T WAIT FOR SILVA JACKSON 3!!! GO WAND!!!

by ANance on Nov 16, 2008 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Take a deep breath d00dz

This is a pro wrestling puff piece. It’s in-character, regarding Brock as a former WWE wrestler. It’s actually a pretty major motion by the WWE to even regard the UFC in this manner. It’s like the ESPN coverage, on a smaller scale; it’s being treated as a legit sport (and not a direct alternative) to the WWE— similarly to how they regarded boxing in the 80’s and 90’s. The comment about the crap shoot nature of their cards was a harmless little “but we iz still kooler!!!” remark..

by Blackout612 on Nov 16, 2008 8:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

nice to see impartial hard hitting journalism on the internets.

by !claw on Nov 16, 2008 8:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Them’s fightin’ words.

by Rundownloser on Nov 16, 2008 8:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I assure you the “crap-shoot” is Vince talking. His ideas of fighting is Bigger Alpha = Better Alpha. Built for strength always beats technique.

That’s why most their champions either come from bodybuilding backgrounds or are douchebags.

by RoyalB on Nov 16, 2008 8:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

lol!

by mythbuster on Nov 16, 2008 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m also suprised that Minnesota University, Minnesota Martial Arts, Caprido,Erik Paulsen, Greg Nelson and Adam Clary were all in WWE’s payroll.

by RoyalB on Nov 16, 2008 8:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Well of course they aren’t going to totally put over the UFC. They want fans to pick WWE over UFC if they don’t have money for both that month. I mean, MMA people say much harsher things about ProWrestling than vice versa so don’t get your panties in a bunch.

by CreativeName on Nov 16, 2008 8:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking the same thing. Why all the hate?

by EnsignFrog on Nov 16, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO

That's just a big son of a bitch -- that's all there is to it.

by mma_dude on Nov 16, 2008 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

So showing as many fights as possible is a bad thing now? I remember all the events where I wished they’d show the prelim fights. The prelim fights are in no way less prestigious. They are just full of guys who are up and coming. Thats not less prestigious. But I guess the WWE is butt hurt.

And they even go as far as to take some credit for Lesnar’s win. What a joke. That shit is scripted. He was champion because he was a personality people loved and people hated. He was champ because he was a good show man. What a fucking joke

by Discman2 on Nov 16, 2008 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Why you getting butt hurt over the ravings of a 65 year old roid freak with the balls of peppercorns and the fight acumen of a fourth grader?

I’m having a ball with it myself, but if you can’t let it bother you, just walk away.

by RoyalB on Nov 16, 2008 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Huh.

Zach Arnold says the gripe’s legit.

by RoyalB on Nov 16, 2008 10:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I don’t watch their sport, but I wonder what would happen if they went a type of ‘unplugged’. Get a license, some guidelines and let the wwe’ers really fight.

by Tommy7 on Nov 17, 2008 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Most all of them would lose or get hurt from powering out of submissions.

Their not Sakuraba.

Mainstream North American Pro Wrestling these days is comparable to WMAC Masters, but you have to ass kiss to the top instead of being awesome in your own right.

by RoyalB on Nov 17, 2008 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I picture a lot of Kimbo v Thompson type fights for some reason.

by Benicio on Nov 17, 2008 1:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Worse. Jobbing to bodybuilders with no skill even as pro wrestlers.

Even worse, bodybuilders with no stamina.

by RoyalB on Nov 17, 2008 2:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s wrestling. They’re wrestlers. They wrestle. What if we let everyone in the NFL fight? Or kangaroos fight NBA players? Awesome…

by Blackout612 on Nov 17, 2008 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is too easy.

Obviously this article is missing many facts.
Lesnar was the WWE champion because it was written that way.
Seeing all the fights on the card increases the value of the PPV and the fans love it!

by Reciprocity on Nov 17, 2008 9:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

All that I want to know is

can we get Rome to retract his statements about Lesnar flipping out when he sees his own blood & about Randy’s superior striking being the difference maker. Yest Lesnar is huge, blah blah. But Randy took this fight & is in the heavyweight division so that cannot even be an excuse. Like I said, the only chance Randy had was to take Lesnar deep into the fight & get him exhausted. I love Randy but he looked like a mummy almost. Was it just me or did his face look like he has been smoking for 40 years? Do not get me wrong, I love Randy & he is my favorite fighter other than Liddell. But like the Iceman, he should have hung em up

by dnevil001 on Nov 17, 2008 10:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs