Could Kurt Angle Get Athletic Commission Approval to Fight?
This is the biggest question to me in all the "will he, won't he" speculation (he won't) on Angle making a trip into the world of MMA. He has a long history of serious neck injuries and drug addiction.
At the 1996 Olympic Trials Kurt fractured two cervical vertebrae and herniated 2 discs. He won the trails, rehabed and won the Olympic gold medal...albeit with the help of pain-reducing injections. This injury also resulted in a vicodin addiction.
In April 2003 Angle underwent neck surgery to repair nerve and spinal damage, calcium buildup, bone spurs, and other problems with his discs. He chose to not have damaged discs fused together as would be the common practice in such a surgery. Possibly as a result of this Angle underwent neck surgery again in November of that same year.
In 2006 Angle was released from his contract with the WWE and claims that he was addicted to painkillers again at this time.
Angle also was a part of the widespread wrestling steroid "bust" in 2007. From Angle's Wikipedia Entry:
On March 6, 2007, Sports Illustrated reported that Angle's name was found in the client database of a Florida wellness center suspected of being a front for distributing performance-enhancing drugs. The magazine alleged Angle had received prescriptions for trenbolone (which is not approved for human use by the FDA) and nandrolone, both anabolic steroids. Angle responded on his official website: "I did not improperly receive prescriptions. It is well documented that in my career I have broken vertebrae in my neck on five occasions and each time the course of treatment was under the care and supervision of my doctors. Any attempt to link me to the athletes in the current news accounts who may have improperly sought performance-enhancing drugs is without foundation."
Approximately two weeks later on March 19, 2007, Sports Illustrated posted on its website another article in its continuing series investigating a steroid and HGH ring used by a number of professional athletes in several sports. That article mentioned that 10 other professional wrestlers were implicated to have received performance-enhancing drugs from the same drug ring including four current WWE wrestlers and Eddie Guerrero. Kurt never failed a drug test for pain pills. He did, however, fail a steroid test under WWE's Wellness Policy because his prescription for Deca-Durabolin had expired.
So basically in Angle we have a guy who has broken vertebrae in his neck on five occasions, had multiple neck surgeries, and as a result of these problems has been addicted to painkillers. And we're talking about the possibility of this guy fighting for a major MMA promotion?
Would any athletic commission actually approve Angle to fight? One takedown gone wrong and his neck is toast...again. Can he function through a full training camp without steroids, HGH or pain killers?
This isn't even a "Kurt Angle is full of crap" issue...this is a Kurt Angle has dangerous health concerns issue. I personally don't want to see Angle make his way into our sport for many reasons...but seeing his neck give out on PPV is pretty high on the list.
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He should fight Puder his first fight if he ever does get cleared.
I will be visibly distraught if I see him in a guillotine choke applied to Kurt.
I don’t really like Kurt Angle but I do not want him to get paralyzed due to his stubborn need to prove himself, such a major figure getting injured severely would bring a lot of negative press to the sport.
by DirtyML on Nov 10, 2008 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
I have been a pro wrestling fan at various points in my life. And Angle in his prime was amazing to watch. Angle is, however, out of his mind and in no shape to compete. And the press from a potential injury is scary.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 10, 2008 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree and I kind of feel bad for the guy. He is a gold medalist, and he is one of the best pro wrestlers ever (both in the ring and on the mic)… it’s too bad he can’t leave those amazing accomplishments alone and has to tarnish it with this nonsense now :(
by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thankfully EliteXC is no longer around or you would be seeing Angle v Kimbo in 2009 :(
by Benicio on Nov 10, 2008 8:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Honestly, despite his injuries, I wouldn’t worry too much about Angle actually getting injured. The constant abuse he does to his body wrestling every other night is worse than what would happen to him in a MMA cage. Fighters fight a few times a year and they can tailor they’re training methods in between to adhere to certain nagging injuries. Pro wrestlers are bouncing and slamming their bodies sometimes 20 times in a month. If his body can withstand the rigors of the professional wrestling circuit, I think he would be okay in MMA. This is not saying that a real tight guillotine couldn’t potentially do some damage but I think the chances of that happening are lower than people think.
Aside from that, I think he could pass. If the guy were to somehow pass a physical and a drug test, he would get licensed. I’m not aware of how much the athletic commission would take his prior injuries into account before issuing a license but the fact that he’s out there in the ring all the time tells me he can’t be in too horrible of shape. Then again I remember a story a few years back where Angle was literally wrestling with a broken neck for a prolonged period, albeit hopped up on painkillers.
by dropkick101 on Nov 10, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Can his neck handle it?
He broke it FIVE TIMES.
That ain’t handling it.
by toxic on Nov 10, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're saying exactly what I mean though...
yeah, he takes a beating wrestling…but he doesn’t have to pass a real “physical” and be declared fit to wrestle. Beyond that he is taking bumps that he KNOWS are coming. I have friends who were/are pro wrestlers (and have trained with some of them in the past). There is a large difference between falling how you want from a move you know is coming and getting dumped on your back and neck in a fight. I mean..I’d be worried about his neck taking a simple neck crank on the ground.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 10, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, a neck crank would kill Angle.
Angle is a ticking time bomb. The fallout from him possibly getting injured would be brutal, amplified by his own fame. Could you imagine what kind of smack he’d be talking on national television if something were to happen to him? I can already predict how his first fight will end: TKO stoppage due to paralyzation.
by pud333 on Nov 10, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Angle's pro wrestling schedule...
Angle wrestles in TNA now. With TNA he does not have to wrestle as often as he did with the WWE. WWE wrestlers are on the road almost all year long, performing multiple times each week. TNA wrestlers I think record shows twice a month (and each recording is split into 2 episodes). I might be wrong, that might have changed by now… but let’s round up and say he’s wrestling 5 or 6 times/month now. Still not nearly as much as he was with WWE.
You also know how to fall & land in pro wrestling. Falling, getting taken down, and “landing” isn’t pre-determined in MMA. Your opponent won’t be looking out for your physical well being as best he can during the match, like he does in pro wrestling. If Angle’s opponent got a chance, he would not hesitate to wrap his arms around Angle’s neck and squeeze and crank at the same time, as hard as he could. And that’s something Kurt should think about first.
Angle reminds me of someone trying to hold onto his youth or relive his glory days.
Keep Swillin',
Bruz
by Bruz on Nov 10, 2008 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How would you imagine Angles neck would be if he got hit the way Liddel got hit by Evans?
by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2008 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention its not really fair to the other fighters to put them up against a guy they could easily kill/paralyze if they do the wrong thing to him. Paralyzing or killing a dude in the ring would be great for their emotional well being. Lay off the guy and lose or try to win and risk killing a man!
He shouldn’t be allowed in, period. No sport that involves guillotine chokes, body slams, and punching should permit a guy with a glass neck into the ring. Also, horrible for the sport. Good luck getting MMA legalized in New York when opponents could point to clips of a famous wrestler getting his neck broken on Pay Per View.
by toxic on Nov 10, 2008 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What’s with the Angle hypotheticals today? I feel like the guy deserves less real attention until he acts more serious than he talks.
by Blackout612 on Nov 10, 2008 9:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The point of me writing this...
…is mostly that I’m tired of hearing about Angle coming to MMA and wanted to point out a few reasons why I think it will (and should) never happen.
Yeah…you read that right. I wrote about the guy because I’m tired of hearing about him. God bless the internets…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 11, 2008 1:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
I think this post brings up a lot of good points, even quite beyond Kurt Angle. At this point, I don’t know if a guy like Ken Shamrock should get approval, let alone Glass Neck Angle.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
by thetakeover on Nov 10, 2008 10:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m afraid some athletic commission in some state in the country would clear Angle to fight even if his neck is as fragile as described. However, I don’t believe the UFC would touch him if they think there’s a relatively high chance he could be seriously injured during a match. The risk seems way too high versus the reward, especially since Zuffa is working to open up new markets to their product.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 10, 2008 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Guess it would depend how much money they could make off of it.
by mythbuster on Nov 10, 2008 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know.
Irreparable damage could be done to MMA and the UFC if Angle were paralyzed during a fight. Like it or not, a guy with the name recognition of Angle getting hurt would do more damage than most any other fighter sustaining the same injury.
by Cannon Jacques on Nov 10, 2008 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see Art Dore pulling this off in Mt. Pleasent.
by RoyalB on Nov 10, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mount Pleasent, MI?
like at the casino?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 11, 2008 1:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’d have to pull some major strings, but yeah. I can see Ahrens set a fight up with a drywaller who had a year of HS Wrestling.
Who lot of us in BC think he’s a fucktard. Doesn’t stop the rest of MI from drinking the koolaid.
by RoyalB on Nov 11, 2008 3:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in Michigan
down by St. Joe to be correct. I haven’t seen much MMA in the area since moving back here though.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 11, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly an East Coast thing. Tri Valley is a major spot as well as outside Detroit.
Difference between the two is that the NAAFS is working with promotions outside Detroit. The Blood pimps are running the Tri Valley.
by RoyalB on Nov 11, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he could pass a athletic commission physical at this point but then that didn’t stop Tommy Morrison from getting a fight. There is always Indian Casinos or having a fight overseas.
by who me on Nov 10, 2008 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
re: Tommy Morrison
That’s a dicey case, though. Morrison and promoter Peter McKinn have been accused of screwing with the blood test in Phoenix that came back negative for HIV, which did get Tommy fully licensed in West Virginia, a state notorious for being lax on licensing. Then there was some stuff where Texas refused to license him because “paperwork got filed late,” and then a former manager of Morrison’s said he does have HIV and Hep C. They still let him fight in Mexico earlier this year, but they let Oscar Larios and his subdural hematoma fight, so that’s another iffy status.
Still, Morrison DID “pass a physical,” fraudulent or not.
"Yesterday I was lying, today I am telling the truth." -- Bob Arum
by SC on Nov 11, 2008 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If I remember correctly...
he also got licensed after letting an AC watch him take a blood test. I don’t remember what state that was.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 11, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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