EliteXC: Heat, Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock CBS Saturday Night Fights Staff Predictions

BloodyElbow.com Staff Predictions for "EliteXC: Heat", CBS Saturday Night Fights
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Kevin "Kimbo Slice"
Kid Nate: Shamrock will get whupped again. Quickly and with little suspense or entertainment value. Slice by TKO in 1.
Brent Brookhouse: Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Ken Shamrock - With all the "we saw Kimbo exposed by James Thompson" talk people are throwing around as a reason Shamrock can pull the upset off you'd think they know something I don't. Ken got jacked up by Buzz
Mike Rome: For all the smoke and mirrors, we all know what will really happen. Ken is going to try to stand with Kimbo, and as soon as he gets hurt his entire gameplan will go out the window, and he will end up getting destroyed. I'll be shocked by any other outcome. Kimbo Slice via TKO, round 1.
Nick Thomas: Another gimme fight for Kimbo. I haven't forgotten that Buzz
Chris Nelson: I can't recall another high profile fight in recent memory which made me this sad. (Maybe Sakuraba-Manhoef; at least Royce had a shot going into the Hughes fight, or so I thought.) Ken has made it all too clear in the run-up to this match that he knows he's at the end of his career, and it seems he's already lost the match in his mind. I fully expect this to go down the way everyone on the planet expects (and the way EliteXC needs) it to go.
Kid Nate: Hoping for a good one here, but my brain tells me Shields will get the takedown and the submission pretty quick. Shields by submission.
Brent Brookhouse: Shields is on a roll and has looked fantastic in recent EXC fights. There is something about Daley though. He is very explosive and his striking is really sharp. Also, Daley is a guy who was ready to retire because he just didn't have the passion any more. I think he is a guy who needs to feel motivated...he wants to climb the mountain and in Shields he feels like there is finally a mountain worth climbing. I'm going to take a very motivated Daley to pull off the upset here because I have such a soft spot for technical strikers. Paul Daley by TKO in round 1.
Mike Rome: I like the match, but it's still a mismatch. Shields is just too good where Daley isn't, and will only lose if he decides to try to show off his standing skills too much. Jake is too smart, he'll get Daley down and submit him. Shields via submission, round 2.
Nick Thomas: Grappler vs. Striker here. Sheilds is bigger, stronger, better and has never gone past the 2nd round in his last 5 fights. Shields by whatever.
Chris Nelson: The most competitive fight on the card, in my opinion. Shields' 63-second destruction of Nick Thompson on the last CBS show was phenomenal, and the fact that Daley is known for his sub-par wrestling would suggest that EXC is setting their newly-minted champ up for his first successful defense. But I've got to follow my gut on this one, which says the dynamic striking of a hungry "Semtex" will bring Shield's win streak to a halt at 10. Daley via TKO, Round 2.
Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson![]()
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Kid Nate: Now we have a fun fight. Nelson is game but I expect Arlovski to dismantle and demolish him standing in 2. Arlovski by TKO.
Brent Brookhouse: I like Nelson a lot, but he just isn't at Arlovski's level. Nelson is a guy who fits the mold of the guy Andrei was running through while champion (but with a strong chin). This is not going to be anywhere near as close as everyone seems to think it is. Arlovski is going to bust Nelson up for three rounds and take a decision. Nelson will do a good job of hitting Andrei's fist with his head though. Andrei Arlovski by decision.
Mike Rome: Poor Josh Barnett. Affliction is paying for all the salaries in this fight so it is an expensive commercial, so to speak. The goal is for Arlovski to look great, but I see this being a tough fight. I would have picked Nelson if this fight was booked before the last Affliction show, but Arlovski seems motivated again, and I think he'll just be too much standing for the slower Nelson.
Nick Thomas: The IFL Champ has never fought anyone like Arlovski. Arlovski has won his last 4 fights and has proven that he's back. Arlovski + kicks, knees, speed, and accuracy = Arlovski by KO.
Chris Nelson: What must be going through Andrei's mind, swapping out his scheduled Affliction opponent Josh Barnett for the very aptly monikered "Big Country?" I hope it's not "I'm gonna take this pumpkin-bellied fool lightly," because for all his rotundity, Nelson does have a granite chin and has shown much improved wrestling since he started his run in the IFL. Still, it's hard to bet against the taller, quicker, more experienced Belarusian, who may need to eschew his Freddie Roach-honed boxing in favor of sambo for the win. Arlovski via Decision.
Kid Nate: Gina will kick the crap out of Kobold. Carano by TKO in 2.
Brent Brookhouse: Kobold is tough, and she'll use that toughness to manage to get off her stool at the start of the second round. She will wake up a few minutes later. Gina Carano by TKO round 2.
Mike Rome: Kelly has a good record, but it is mostly filled with wins over cans. Gina actually had a full training camp for this fight, and I think she is going to win this pretty easily. Kelly's standup is not all that great; I think Gina will beat her up badly. Carano via TKO, round 2.
Nick Thomas: This is Gina's set up match for Carano vs.
Chris Nelson: Kelly's a well-rounded fighter with powerful boxing and Minnesota MMA Academy-trained wrestling. I've always enjoyed watching her bouts and would love to pick her for the upset here... but Carano's range and vicious striking (as displayed against Kobold's training partner Kaitlin Young) is just overwhelming. Carano via Decision.
Benji Radach vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua![]()
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Kid Nate: Should be a good one here. Ninja might be facing his last chance to be considered remotely a top fighter. Radach just might have a chance to climb the hill here. I'm picking Radach by TKO.
Brent Brookhouse: Picking Ninja fights is always tough because you're never sure which Ninja you're going to get. I like Radach and think that at this point in time he needs the win more and seems a bit more "steady." In a fight where it seems like somebody is probably going to sleep it goes to decision a lot of the time. Benji Radach by close decision.
Mike Rome: Upset alert! Both men have tremendous standing power and questionable chins, but I think Ninja's stubborn refusal to fight advantageously will cost him here. Radach via TKO, round 2.
Nick Thomas: The most interesting fight on the card with Radach trying to get back on the winning track and Rua staying on it. Ninja should take this with experience. Rua by decision.
Chris Nelson: Both Radach and "Ninja" have explosive power in their boxing and Muay Thai, respectively, but both have shown cracks in their chins as well. After a feeling out period in the first, I see Radach taking this to the floor to try and pound it out, where the elder Rua will catch a submission from his back. Rua via Submission, Round 2.
Luke Thomas: Takahashi is going to mauled here. She herself is an ancient journeyman who trains with nothing but other Japanese female journey…women? In any event, Cyborg’s aggression and clinch game is going to be her undoing. Cyborg by TKO, round 1.
Brent Brookhouse:
Mike Rome: Hey, what a stupid fight. The goal is to build up a brutal monster to fight Carano, so they put her against someone incredibly hard to knock out in a fight that probably won't make TV. Good thinking! Anyway I think
Nick Thomas:
Chris Nelson: Yoko has been in this a long, long time, and the woman can take a beating. But unless she catches the lady
Brent Brookhouse: Heun by decision.
Mike Rome: Berto via TKO, round 1.
Nick Thomas: Berto by decision.
Chris Nelson: Heun looked impressive against the highly-touted Chute Boxe prospect Marlon Matias back in March. His decent Muay Thai combined with great submission skills should overwhelm the smaller (though more experienced) "Little Tiger." Heun via TKO, Round 2.
Seth Petruzelli vs. Aaron Rosa![]()
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Brent Brookhouse:
Mike Rome:
Nick Thomas: Petruzelli by TKO.
Chris Nelson:
Lorenzo Borgomeo vs. Mikey Gomez
Brent Brookhouse: Borgomeo by submission.
Mike Rome: Borgomeo via TKO, round 2.
Chris Nelson: Borgomeo via Decision.
David Gomez vs. Brett Jackowski
Brent Brookhouse: Jackowski by TKO.
Mike Rome: Jackowski via Submission, Round 3.
Chris Nelson: Jackowski via Submission, Round 2.
Jorge Bouchat vs. Nicolae Cury
Brent Brookhouse: Cury by submission.
Mike Rome: Cury via Submission, Round 2.
Chris Nelson: Cury via Submission, Round 1.
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Kimbo, Shields, Arlovski, are easy picks for me but, im a little hung up with the Rua-Radach fight and the Kobald-Carano fight. Gina should take her out easy, but she didn’t look right at the weigh ins. Maybe she was just embarrassed but i think if she doesn’t finish Kobald in the first she could have problems gassin out later in the fight. Radach and Rua is up in the air so i’ll take Radach.
by asmiley420 on Oct 4, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gina should take her out easy, but she didn’t look right at the weigh ins.
Does she ever look right at weigh-ins?
by Tonley on Oct 4, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least when she came in over weight she looked more into it. She just looked kind of out of it yesterday… Again though it could have been because she knew she’d be a little over the weight and was embarrassed about it.
by asmiley420 on Oct 4, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Props to Luke for telling it like it is
I respect Luke for “telling it like it is” when it comes to the donkey match between Slice and Shammy. It is nice to see someone in a position to be heard by a number of people NOT sugar coat it, or downplay the ridiculisness and SADNESS that EliteXC is doing to mma.
I think it is SUCH an insult to real MMA fighters that have paid their dues and put in the time. But instead Slice gets continues to receive main event status and paydays like he has been in mma for 10 years and SUCCESSFUL at it. It is DISGUSTING that Eiite has turned mma into a WWE like promotion. What they are doing to make SLice look like some kind of serious threat in mma in WWE like, to say it kindly. They could TURN a BLIND and DISABLED man into what Slice has done. No offense to those with disabilties, just making an analogy to the level of competition they give this guy and try to DISGUISE it as a serious mma fighter.
It would be the equivalent of bringing Butterbean into the UFC and feeding him old, fat, one dimensinoal strikers that are slowers and weaker than bean….and turning Butterbean into a Kimbo Slce.
I NEVER wish an mma promotion to fail…..But I hope ELitexc fold and FOLDS FAST!!!!! Between inventing weight classes for their star fighters and all the other crap they pull. It will be sad to see Elite move forward and get even more ridiculis and scripted in the future, so I hope they fail
by fightfan on Oct 4, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it is SUCH an insult to real MMA fighters that have paid their dues and put in the time. But instead Slice gets continues to receive main event status and paydays like he has been in mma for 10 years and SUCCESSFUL at it. It is DISGUSTING that Eiite has turned mma into a WWE like promotion.
We talking about Kimbo or Lesnar?
by mythbuster on Oct 4, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AT least Lesnar fights people that can fight back
and not over the hill, out of shape, fat guys looking for a paycheck who have no business in mma.
“You just got buttslammed”
WTF? says…..LOL – “smoogy” for making a comment and opinion?? yeah I got smoogy’d
by fightfan on Oct 4, 2008 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know if the undercard is airing? Thought it was supposed to be on Fox Sports, but can’t remember at my advanced age, lol.
"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"
by BJJDenver on Oct 4, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is not...
at least on FSN Detroit (I’m almost 2 hours closer to Chicago than Detroit…but still have to put up with Detroit BS). I just checked the schedule on both Tivo and DirecTV and it is not on that I can see.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think it’s airing anywhere. :(
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks, guys! I didn’t find it here in Denver either, but with all the other sports going on, I thought it might have been lost somewhere.
"The bigger the cushion, the sweeter the pushin'"
by BJJDenver on Oct 4, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right..
What would make Gina look right is a towel drop at the weigh in. Lucky towel holders.
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by Rob Dib on Oct 4, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Since I’m an e-mail noob, here are my picks for the main card (note to self, don’t click “Reply All” to an e-mail you forwarded to yourself).
Main Card on CBS:
-Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson vs. Ken Shamrock – Ken’s old, has no chin, no threatening striking, no wrestling, lacks size, and hasn’t won a fight in forever. Kimbo has his holes, and Ken will be dangerous if he somehow ends up on top, but there’s no reason this shouldn’t be a first round KO. Buzz Berry. ’Nuff said. Kimbo Slice by TKO, round 1.
-Jake Shields (#5 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Paul Daley – This should be a fun fight, but I think Shields is too well rounded. Shields by GNP TKO, round 3.
-Andrei Arlovski (#4 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Roy Nelson – I thought I already saw this fight at “Affliction: Banned.” I see Andrei doing the same thing he did with Ben Rothwell. Slowly wearing down Roy with the standup before KOing him in a spectacular array of punches. Arlovski by TKO, round 3.
-Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobald – Carano TKO 1, round 1.
-Benji Radach vs. Murilo “Ninja” Rua – Rua by decision.
by Mike Fagan on Oct 4, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m totally with Luke on this, and I’ll pick Shamrock too if it will kill the current iteration of EXC. I was terribly measured when I posted the other day on ProElite’s future. I don’t take myself that seriously, so what I say isn’t that big of a deal. However, I’ll tell anyone that will listen that I can’t stand how they represent MMA on a national stage. They’ve got some great fighters, and probably some good people working there, but the product they put forward is atrocious. I will not support them just because they call themselves an MMA promotion.
With that said, I’m a little worried about Gina. She looked like walking death in the videos and pictures, and some people reporting seem to have corroborated that assessment. If you go back and look at the weigh in for the Evinger fight, she had a similar appearance. In my opinion, she didn’t look good in that fight until Tonya blew the guillotine and Gina got on top. Maybe it was Tonya’s wrestling, but I think it’s worth keeping in mind. I too believe that, if this thing goes the distance, her weight cutting difficulties could bite her. I think she should fight at 145 or 150 from now on. This weight cutting drama reflects badly on her, and it could catch up with her in the ensuing match at some point. That’s the best case scenario. At worst, Gina could do damage to herself physically if her appearance is any indication of the physical toll getting down to 141 is taking on her.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For me, the last straw was hiring Mike Kyle in his first fight back after almost ending Brian Olsen’s career. They do a lot of little things, that alone don’t mean much, but as a whole show they don’t give a shit about the integrity of the sport as long as they survive as a company.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
I remember that. I watched the video of the fight after they hired Kyle, and thought how insane it was that EXC booked him.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"But I am picking Shamrock, not because I think it’s likely he’ll win. Instead, I am picking him because EliteXC is trying to pass off grossly heavy-handed matchmaking to unsuspecting fans simply to stay afloat. It’s disgusting and abhorrent and I state openly I hope it backfires. "
Congrats, you made my eyes roll so hard I think they’re stuck back there. Cry some more!
by smoogy on Oct 4, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they’re stuck back there, does this mean we won’t be subjected to any more of your posting?
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least something positive may come out of EXC’s terrible match-making then.
by Richard Wade on Oct 4, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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