EliteXC: Heat Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock - Live Results Tonight
by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
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Make sure to join me here tonight as I provide live updates and thoughts on the EliteXC: Heat show on CBS. I'll be taking you through the evening starting with the start of the broadcast at 9:00pm ET.
Kimbo, Shamrock, Gina, Arlovski...it's sure to be an interesting night so spend it here with us.
Update: As Chris Nelson pointed out it sounds like Tito Ortiz may be in the booth for at least one fight tonight:
"Right now EliteXC and myself are in great discussions for the future and working with each other," Ortiz said.
Ortiz made his first appearance in conjunction with EliteXC at Friday's weigh-ins. Although no formal announcement of his presence was made, a buzz quickly filled the room when the 33-year-old was spotted.
Ortiz said tonight's appearance may be far less under the radar.
"I'm here as a guest of EliteXC," Ortiz said. "I'm possibly going to be commentating a fight [tonight]. It's going to be exciting. I can't wait."
Yet another interesting possibility in an evening full of curiosities.
Update 2: As we posted earlier Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock is officially off as Ken has managed to injure himself hours before the fight. EXC reps are trying to replace Ken with Seth Petruzelli but Kimbo's people have yet to accept the replacement. Rock and a hard place here as Seth stands about 1303% better chance of winning than Shamrock did...but if Kimbo doesn't end up taking the fight he looks like a bit of a punk in light of his "anyone, anywhere" talk and reputation.
Update 3: MMARated is now reporting that Shamrock has left the building after an attempt to get him cleared by a second doctor. It appears for sure that the main event is officially NOT Shamrock/Slice. I haven't heard yet if they have locked Petruzelli in as a replacement.
Update 4: From MMARated:
Final Update: Kimbo Slice VS. Seth Petruzelli tonight. 100%
I'll go on record as picking Petruzelli by decision here.
The show is about to start. Live results after the jump...
The CBS broadcast is starting. They're showing the press conference footage but they are confirming that Seth Petruzelli is the official opponent for Kimbo tonight. Shamrock's cut does look like it is in a bad spot and took 6 stitches to close up. I can see why they wouldn't let him fight in all honesty.
The doctors are being talked to as well and telling the same story. Sometimes when you overexplain the obvious it starts to seem fishy. I'm not doubting the cut as you can see it clearly and it does look bad, I'm just saying EXC should have shown the cut, talked to Ken and called it a day.
Frank is calling out Ken for being dumb enough to train "hard" the night before a big fight and putting the "Shamrock Legacy" in jeopardy.
Benji Radach vs. Murilo "Ninja" Rua - Benji Radach is still a practitioner of "Facesmashing Fu" which...is uncool. But I like the dude. Round 1 - Benji pushes foraward and lands some heavy shots and every one is hurting Ninja. Rua is throwing back but he is getting dominated. Radach is gassing a bit. They both land a shot and both go down. Ninja is on top as Radach uses the cage to get back to his feet. Ninja is bleeting from his left eye. Benji's punches are becoming more and more "arm punchy." They go to the ground and Benji is on top. Ninja with elbows from the bottom. Ninja is looking for a heel hook but Benji escapes. They go back to the leg game and Rua looks for a heel hook again but again Benji escapes. Rua is looking for the takedown any time it goes back to standing as Radach was outclassing him standing. 10-9 round for Radach as the bell rings. Ninja recovered well but Benji won the round big early on. Round 2 - Rua is landing some clean shots early including knees to the body. Radach really looks winded so Rua attacking the body is very smart. Huge right from Benji! Wow! Ninja's chin looks good considering his history. Ninja locks him up and is looking for a takedown with a single but Benji keeps it up. Left hand drops Rua and a few shots to the prone Ninja force the ref to jump in. Great fight, simply perfect fight for television. Benji Radach wins by TKO (ref stoppage - punches) Round 2. Seriously, that was a brawl that was NOT just sloppy boxing. The punches looped a bit, but it was better than a lot of the "bad boxing wars" that we see in MMA.
They are talking to Gina backstage about getting naked and questioning her conditioning..etc. "You're not that unusual! Women WANT to open up a can!" Good lord that may rival any of the crap quotes that Mauro may throw out there tonight.
Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobald - Round 1 - Gina with a big overhand right about 3 seconds in. Kelly looking for a single leg now. Kelly looks very desperate going for a takedown but doesn't seem to have her composure at the moment. Gina defends but eats a knee and punch in the clinch. They're throwing and both landing but Gina is landing harder. Kobald looks like she tired herself out going for techniqueless takedowns. The ridiculous three minute round rules are about to bring things to a close. 10-9 Gina as she landed the better punches. Kobald is bleeding badly from a cut that looks to be on her forehead. Round 2 - Gina is looking to keep distance this round and not get caught inside again. Big shots for Gina early again. Kobald with a body lock again and she looks to grab a guillotine, lets go and hits a very crisp right hand. Kelly is game but she can't let Gina have distance which she has once again. Left right lands for Gina. Gina is throwing one or one twos and circling away. Takedown for Kelly with 20 seconds left. Good GnP to end the round but Gina still took it on her straight punching when there was distance, it is actually a pretty even round except Gina is doing more damage. 10-9 Gina again. Round 3 - Kobald races across and is looking for the double again. Wicked foot stomps from Kobald but she can't finish a the single leg now. The ref breaks them. Huge knee fro Gina and another. Kobald is back to looking for the takedown against the cage. Gina switches to a choke which she didn't have good enough position to finish. Huge head kick with five seconds left and the bell rings. 10-9 again for Gina on my card and I've got it 30-27 for the fight. Gina Carano wins by unanimous decision (29-28, 30-27 x2). Two good fights so far.
Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson - A guy who weighed in in Dolce&Gabbana underwear against a guy looking to secure a fast food sponsorship. I love this sport for the bizzare matchups you get. As my wife said "this is a male version of the last fight" Round 1 -Tito gets his first camera time at cageside before the opening bell. Nelson loos so short in with Arlovski. Hard low kicks early by Andrei before Nelson is able to get a body lock. Andrei with a trip but Nelson reverses and passes to side control. Nelson is looking for an armlock and they end up in north/south. It's more or less a grappling match at this point. Kimura setup by Nelson. Bad standup by the ref when Nelson let go of the kimura. Nelson quickly closes distance again. Big knee to the head by Arlovski. Roy is still looking for the takedown. Crowd is getting restless with Nelson's "hold 'em against the cage" gameplan. They are separated again. Great leg kick by Andrei sets up a left hand. Lead right lands for Arlocksi and a few more leg kicks. Again they're locked up against the cage. Nelson's mouth couldn't be more open at this point. Nelson lost the round at the end there when Arlovski was able to land some serious leg kicks and punches. Damage trumps a takedown with no real damage. 10-9 Arlovski on my card. Round 2 - Two right hands for Arlovski and then Nelson sends him stumbling back with a left hand and follwos in with a body lock. Nelson needs to look to do some damage at some point only landed 1 punch in the first round. Arlovski is starting to land at will now and Nelson is very gassed. Arlovski is headhunting now...Big right hand drops Nelson and it's all over. Nelson is complaining, but he went down in a heap. It was a fine stoppage honestly, he went down face first from a right hand and then slowly rolled to his side, no ref is going to let that go. Andrei Arlovski wins by KO (Punch) Round 2.
Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley - I'm excited for this one. It's going to be explosive. Round 1 - Shields looks for a high kick, Daley fends off a takedown. Hard low kick by Daley. Jab to the body by Semtex which is why I'm such a fan. He strikes like a "real striker." Very nice ankle pick by Shields. Passes to side control, back to guard, passes to side again and then to full mount. Shields is working body and head from the mount. This is very one sided at this point and Shields decides to go back to side control, then back to mount. Under a minute to go now. Shields is looking for an armbar but can't finish because of the cage. Goes for it again and ends up on his back under Daley who starts firing big elbows. The round ends and Daley was able to save himself from losing a two point round with the elbows at the end there. 10-9 Shields. Round 2 - Head kick from Daley. Shields throwing punches with bad technique and eats some counters because of it. Daley stuffs a takedown with a good sprawl. Another sprawl and Shields looks tired. Body lock against the cage and Shields gets a takedown into mount. Going for an armbar again but he gives up. Daley looks like he refuses to use the cage to try to get up...instead he is just eating elbow. Shields grabs the armbar again and this time he locks it deep. Daley tries to fight but has to tap. Jake Shields retains the EXC Welterweight Championship by submission (armbar) Round 2.
No shocker here...but it is 10:50pm ET. They're very obviously going to run over their 2 hours. Wonder how the affiliates will feel about it this time around. They're even taking the time to show some clips of the Cyborg fight from earlier.
Something about the way that Slice's entourage having to hype him up so much before he comes out and his attitude when interviewed backstage just smacks of someone battling a degree of insecurity in my eyes. Huge misstatement by Gus Johnson who says "you never see this in boxing where someone gets hurt and someone else steps in and you just fight anyways." Yes Gus. You absolutely do see that on occasion in boxing.
Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson vs. Seth "The Silverback" Petruzelli - Round 1 - Kimbo refuses to touch gloves at the ref instructions. SLICE IS HURT! 10 SECONDS AND IT'S DONE! OH MY GOD! WOW! KIMBO WAS SHOOTING ON THE REF A GOOD 10 SECONDS LATER HE WAS SO HURT! Seth stunned him and then dropped BOMBS once Kimbo went down. Seth Petruzelli wins by KO (Punches) Round 1 (10 seconds). Front kick, right hand. The right dropped Kimbo and then Seth pounded him out with right hand after right hand. Seth is making excuses for Kimbo. Kimbo, to his credit, does not make excuses. He just says show the fighters some love, the after party is still on...and then leaves mid interview.
Someone else pointed it out in the comments so I rewound and watched. Jared Shaw was screaming at the cage when Kimbo was getting pounded out. It looked like someone who bet his life savings on one horse screaming at a jockey. I wonder if it was directed at Kimbo "get up!" or the ref "don't stop it!" Actually. Looking a little further at a different angle it is clear that he seemed to be yelling at the ref after the stopage also...so I'm not sayin' I'm just sayin' that Shaw seemed upset that the fight was stopped as kimbo ate a LOT of unanswered shots. But maybe I'm wrong.
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I find this excerpt funny:
Ortiz made his first appearance in conjunction with EliteXC at Friday’s weigh-ins. Although no formal announcement of his presence was made, a buzz quickly filled the room when the 33-year-old was spotted.
Ortiz said tonight’s appearance may be far less under the radar.
Like that dude’s massive cranium – literally and figuratively – could ever slide “under the radar.” Everyone was spotting him in the first pictures coming out of the weigh-in. Tito will use this guest appearance to sell himself and his shit. Could EXC actually sign him? Maybe, if Santa fills $kala’s stocking full of US currency. Forget it. Mini-Shaw would just use the money to further his ignite career.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m so fucking sick of Ortiz. I really wish he’d just go away.
by AJB on Oct 4, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant to say that Jared Shaw would use the money to ignite his rap career. What I wrote just doesn’t make sense, but what Shaw says doesn’t make sense, so I guess it’s not a big deal.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Just beat me to it...
I was writing the post when your’s came up.
Here the link: http://www.fightlinker.com/?p=3345
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Oct 4, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Enter this event as an example in the dictionary under “karma”. Try to fix a fight, and it’ll usually fix itself.
(Not “fix” illegally, but you know what I mean.)
by AJB on Oct 4, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree. This fight never should have been booked.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope that some of the more insightful cough Bloody Elbow cough MMA writers on the internet pursue that angle. Swuash matches are no way to build up an organization.
by AJB on Oct 4, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Confirmed
MMA Rated confirmed the story. Here’s where it gets really strange:
EliteXC has offered Slice a last-minute replacement in the form of Seth Petruzelli. Petruzelli was scheduled to fight Aaron Rosa tonight.
As of right now, Kimbo has yet to officially accept the fight.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Oct 4, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Really, this is more than just Kimbo fighting a can. They were putting him up against a name guy who shouldn’t be fighting as evidenced by his matches over the last few years. Hell, he only weighed 206. I said yesterday that the picture of Kimbo and Ken said it all. Ken is certainly not the same fighter that helped build MMA in the 90’s. He looked a shell of his past self at the weigh in.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Get Ken Pavia on the phone!
Maybe Jimmy Ambriz is free tonight.
They ought to bump Cyborg/Takahashi to the televised card since Cyborg/Gina is all they have left to build now.
Disaster for EliteXC
These guys just can’t get it right. Losing your main event and announcing it just hours before the event? How does that even happen?
The only way to salvage it would be to have Tito go in and whup Kimbo. Now that would give them something else to talk about.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
second line in the post...
I’ll be taking you through the evening starting with the start of the broadcast at 9:00pm ET.
I’m not there live at ringside so I’m not going to provide shallow one line results. There are plenty of places for that.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't.
I was simply saying why I’m not doing live results for the undercard.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It looks like they skipped the petruzelli/rosa fight and moved up the berto-huen fight. I wonder if something is still up or it was done cuz they didn’t know if the doctor would clear shamrock
I'm assuming...
that they’ll save it for after the main event “just in case”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Curiously, I didn’t care about this card (exception of Shields-Daley) until this drama started. Now I’m contemplating finding a bar in the next half hour to watch what the hell happens next.
It’s like the Melrose Place of MMA…
by AJB on Oct 4, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It's beautiful TV...
not exactly beautiful sport…but wonderful TV.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m suddenly reminded of a feature they’re doing on the Daily Show lately, “Clusterf#&^ To The Poorhouse”
I haven't seen it...
but this sounds like it would fit the bill.
by AJB on Oct 4, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
is there a source for that?
Not denying it…just wondering
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
They’ve gone ahead and started the Cyborg-Takahashi fight on the undercard, so unless they air it on a delay that won’t be making the broadcast.
I THINK...
that he has to get paid in this situation. I’m almost sure if a promotion pulls a fighter to another fight canceling the fight of the original opponent that he gets his pay (I don’t think he gets the win bonus though) don’t hold me to that…but I THINK that is how it works.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
From Yahoo Sports
As of 8:20 p.m. Eastern, it appears Slice (3-0) will fight former UFC fighter Seth Petruzelli, a light heavyweight with a professional record of 9-4. Petruzelli was slated to face Aaron Rosa on an undercard match. Slice’s handlers are reportedly demanding more money before agreeing to the fight. Frank Shamrock, Ken’s adopted brother, is on site to announce on the CBS broadcast. The former UFC and Strikeforce champion volunteered to take the fight on no notice, but he is a middleweight who is coming off a broken arm in his last fight.
Ken Shamrock was doing a light training session in his hotel last night and was accidentally head-butted by Dan Freeman, a long-time partner. It reopened a prior cut in his forehead and the promotion has been working all afternoon and evening on getting him cleared.
Cn anyone tell me
anything about Seth Petruzelli?
I’ve never heard of him, but I suspect he’s about to become the best known mma fighter in America….
He needs more money for food.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Go the Butterbean route.
He can leave AA alone!
Nelson Vs. Butterbean = Fattest Fight Ever
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I'm with ya.
I like Nelson…but not nearly as much as Arlovski.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Shamrock's eye DOES look bad.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I agree.
it is below the eyebrow which is the WORST spot he could have gotten it in. It’s a very very bad spot.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
it makes him all lispy too
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course, Both need as much money/exposure as humanly possible.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Affliction is paying for Arlovski’s fight and Arlovski will be earning in the range of seven figures if he wins.
Man, I know that. I think the sources are pretty solid, but I’m not looking right now.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bummer way to start
Ken Shamrock yapping for 5 minutes about what might have been.
Frank is obviously trying to hype up Shamrock vs. Shamrock. Who wouldn’t want Ken as an opponent?
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Seth Petruzelli
You may remember Seth as “Silverback.”
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
anything to stop the Kimbo Slice freakshow
I wouldn’t mind a Petruzelli decision at all…..
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
This Radach guy has serious power.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I'm not saying do or don't post it...
…but if you could pick it up with a radial antenna, I don’t consider it stealing…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Ninja needs to keep this to the ground.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wow, what a first round
Helluva fight we’ve got here. Action packed. The double KO—I need a replay!
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
...I wanna see Radach fight iagainst Lawler/UFC fighters
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
BRUTAL KO!
That was like 5 knockouts in one.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
AN EARTH SHATTERING KNEE!
hyperbole is a bitch..
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Gina wants to move up to 145 so she doesn’t have to get naked in front of everyone. She might as well do a playboy spread with what happend yesterday and make cash out of it.
I’m not opposed to it if that’s what she wants to do, but that’s a bit of a stretch based on yesterday.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry man.
It went over my head. I would have to view that issue also.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
They're gonna keep showing that fedor fight on Affliction's commercials, huh?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Makes it seem like a video game.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Nekkid is good for marketing
No surprise they’re using the naked towel pics.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
For what it's worth...
the Quarantine movie you’re going to see ad’s for all night. Is a remake of a tremendous Spanish horror movie named [Rec] which was posted in its entirety on Google Video/Youtube a while back. I sincerely suggest checking out the original if you like horror movies (I’m a horror nerd…so whatever).
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
TWO people with good taste in the horror genre.
This site is better than I thought, which says alot.
Ads...
make me want to discuss ads. I guess I’m the target audience.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
DUDE
I just watched it last night for the first time. One of the greatest horror movies I have ever seen.
Quarantine has already given the ending away in commercials, and looks flat awful. Rec, however, WOW. Great to know someone else out there has a good taste in the horror genre.
I see that I am a bit late, but I am not going to watch this event. I was only watching for Ken Shamrock. I know Seth can and will beat Kimbo. He is probably Kimbo’s only real opponent as of yet.
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
She reminds me of Betty Boop after a meth binge
by mythbuster on Oct 4, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HA!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Kobold has a psuedo-coolio hair -do.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I wonder if Carano gets gassed in the next round.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That’s sort of true. I wouldn’t say every fight.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Carano's last round won it though.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Shouldn't someone change the title of this post?
Considering that “Kimbo Slice vs. Ken Shamrock” is not going to happen … at least not tonight …
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Was the Palin comment really needed?
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
errr...
She stared at the camera during the debate, Kobold stared at the camera. I thought it was funny. and topical.
I'm on the West Coast so I can't see it yet ...
… but
Finally…time for some women in the mainstream that don’t make women look bad (I’m looking at you Mrs. Palin).… did not sound like it had to do with the camera.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
oh, sorry
Didnt see that one. Thought you meant my comment, couldnt figure out why mine bothered you :)
Oh it's cool
. . . I didn’t see your comment. Should have specified anyways. My bad man.
I just didn’t see the need for a political statement in a sports blog. That’s all.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
It was a joke...I'll remove it...
politics don’t belong here and I’ll slap myself on the wrist for it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way ...
… I hope you don’t think I was being like a real stickler or something. It was just something I noticed. Sorry if I irked you.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
No...you're right...
I always ask people to leave the politics out of the site. So I can’t very well go against that myself.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Now for the fight I care most about.
If AA loses, I will be on suicide watch.
I wanna see Big Country just jump on a grounded opponent with his weight.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I did feel like Gina would beat Cyborg, but I’m not as confident now. Cyborg is big and strong. I think she can take Gina down.
Daley vs Shields is the fight of the night. Don’t sleep on Daleys stand up ability. Jake will be surprised how fast Daley throws.
Kobald vs. Gina -- Pretty nice throwdown by the women
You can read more on the smacktalk leading up to this fight here.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
They’ve already got #6 done too. Yeesh.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
we can only hope :)
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
by Captain Fubar on Oct 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ve been awarded extra credit for mentioning the ex-NBA journeyman.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
heheh
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
by Captain Fubar on Oct 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This is should be a great slugfest.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Arlovski's gonna find candy in there
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wait, would CBS want Andrei to win to televise Fedor Vs. Andrei?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
dear God, thank you for a mute button....
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
by Captain Fubar on Oct 4, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
or may be not....lol
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
by Captain Fubar on Oct 4, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't like the standup...
but Nelson was his own worst enemy. He has to realize that you have to get busy when the ref is giving you the stand-up warning. Positionally controlling that much of the round and really doing nothing with it…gotta be a bit more aggressive than that.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah he was
He was working on a kimura from side mount, and kneeing AA in the side when it got stood up.
Couldn't see the Kimura past his belly?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Dan Henderson does it all the time ...
… and doesn’t get stood up. Same with Randy Couture. When I watch the fight tonight, I’ll be able to make a more accurate judgment, though.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
Again...
I didn’t like the stand-up. But he was throwing weak knees. I know he was “busy” but if the ref is telling you he is going to stand it up. Doing more of the same is not going to keep the position you want. That’s all I’m saying. He needed to throw a punch or two whenever the ref threatened the stand-up.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if he would have...
pulled back and really let a knee fly rather than the kind of half-knees that were getting the warning it wouldn’t have gotten stood up. Regardless I’m not arguing that it was a good stand-up. The outcome was the same regardless though I think…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to throw punches when you have both hands in place to push the kimura.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know.
He kept working for the Kimura although he never got really close to finishing. I thought they should have given him a little more time to work.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought they didn’t do stand-ups if one guy had dominant position.
by Richard Wade on Oct 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that AA won...
I will admit it was a bad standup in round 1. Im biased.
this show has been pretty good overall, in terms of action.
Anything...
that results in Nick getting his head beat around for a while is good by me.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were in the EliteXC...
…I would simply ask them to not put on any ‘music’ for me. Wow.
Don't dis Lars...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
When Eddie kills Nick ...
… does he finally get respect as the 2nd best 155’er in the world?
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
To be fair they're missing a fight
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Semtex’s atrocious ground game doesn’t hurt either.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Daley pretty much saved himself from a 10-8.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He was definitely pissed off and no-selling on her.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Shields better hope this is it.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I agree
I was totally UNimpress with him. With as much control as he had, and took him that long to do anything with it
Shields is deadly on the ground, but against a good wrestler I question how long he can last.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Shit
Shields would get killed by GSP. His subs are awesome, but his striking on the feet and ground are weak.
Yeah...
after that last shot that Daley stuffed he looked both frustrated and gassed.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice armbar
Semtex is helpless in the mount.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
For anyone wondering...
I am not changing the title of the post as it is better for search results than Seth Petruzelli
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe the money dispute was not for Kimbo to get more...
…but to pay off Seth to take a dive in the 2nd.
dun dun dunnnnnnn
Where do people put Shields in the top 10 now? I’d say around 7. I have GSP, Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, Sanchez all definitely ahead of him, and maybe Condit as well.
I'd have to think about it for a bit
But after that fight, I’d definitely take him down a few notches. His striking is entirely uneffective.
Yeah.
He’s much less well rounded than the top 5 or so.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll have to admit, though I hate how EXC is run, this show has been good. The pacing is much better than the first.
Agreed
This has been a pretty entertaining program and much better produced/paced than the last two.
If Seth doesn’t win then we all know that EXC is one big phony
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Yep. I wonder if they’ll put tonight’s prelims on the FSN show soon, Wrekage style.
Smart of them to save the highlights until right before the main event too.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew they would hammer this.
Kimbo is a warriah!!!
Nobody has been through wars like Kimbo!
He wasn’t famous growing up…how many people can say that?! Warriah!!! Ok im done with mocking him now.
This KImbo stepping up is such bullshit. He’s getting paid more than anybody else on the card, save Arlovski.
Exactly.
…and he’s certainly not getting Kimbo money to fight.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Question: James Thompson or Seth Petruzelli?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Which would win in a theoretical battle of the tomatoe cans?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Some Japanese Freakshow
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It reminds me so much...
of the other big athletes who need people around to kiss their ass to build them up. It’s insecurity as far as I can tell.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I like how the CBS announcers admitted Petruzelli is a better fight
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Part of that...
is also them needing to convince people to stay tuned.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Everytime Kimbo fights on CBS the fight goes over – I think it is done intentionally to get the viewers tuning in for the news. They are fluffing the numbers.
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
I would not argue with you there...
I think that is very true. The numbers were WAY fluffed with his first CBS fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Street fighting legend?
I think Guile, Ryu, and Vega would have something to say about that.
I thought about him, but ehhh.
Ryu and Vega are my favorites. I threw guile in for the bitching hair.
Vega was unstoppable,
but any reference must also include Tiger Uppercut. That guy was just a cheat.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
by misterjonez on Oct 4, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so true
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
I don’t think Seth is a can. Especially if compared to James Thompson.
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Against most fighters he's a can. Against Kimbo though...
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
No...
you guys are again using “can” in a situation where “not top tier” is more appropriate.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The CBS line is that Kimbo is getting a “curveball” while Seth is getting the opportunity of a lifetime. This is certainly a big opportunity for Seth, but he’s fighting on short notice too.
But there's an obvious gameplan vs. Kimbo
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Wait, he's fighting at 205?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yeah...
LHW fight for him tonight was the plan
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s certainly a possibility. There’s probably a bonus in it for him to stand with Ferguson.
by Richard Wade on Oct 4, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If it comes out in a few months/years that CBS was fixed – it’s goona look really bad for mma.
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Street Fighting Star Of The Internet?
Im sure he is very proud.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Oct 4, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OMG.....
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
OMG YES YES YES YES YESYESEYSYEYESYEYS
by Nick Thomas on Oct 4, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
TKO via GNP in 13 secs
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
it was a right hand by Seth standing.
Front kick, right hand. The right dropped Kimbo and then Seth pounded him out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't completely out...
but he was going after the ref because he was so out of it. He was stunned and straight up hurt.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
completely burst....
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
by Captain Fubar on Oct 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
by lovingmma25 on Oct 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Fuck you, Kimbo. I would have had another stream running if you could have lasted two minutes, you pussy.
Likewise. Very sneaky of EXC to have the stream cut right before the main event started.
Or maybe it was a coincidence.
by idefinecagefighter on Oct 4, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and EliteXC is done. Their promotion is over.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seth is making excuses for Kimbo.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Please GIF!
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
The MMA Gods….thank you.
http://mma4real.net/
by Tha Realness on Oct 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seth is going to have a better commercial than Fedor.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Oct 4, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
What is Seth saying?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
He’s just making excuses for Kimbo due to the short notice.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Give Kimbo a little credit...
…he didn’t make any real excuses.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe if this was that Gentlemen’s Club show on MTV.. I don’t care what he does after the fight, it’s inconsequential.
I'm just saying...
…there is a lot of hate being sent his way. I think he took it like a man and didn’t pull any “if they didn’t switch things up on me…” etc.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll give Kimbo all the credit in the world. EXC made him the focal point of their promotion even though he’s not an experienced guy. This is what happens because of it.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He came off well.
I actually feel bad for him a bit. I just want the promotion to fall on its ass for doing what its been doing. Im all for competitive brands to the UFC, but these guys had a bad approach.
The Real Chin
Someone finally find Kimbo’s real chin under that FAKE beard. Booya and one shot to the ground.
IM GOING TO DISNEYLAND
And dying all my body hair pink!
SETH PETREZELLI -KIMBO II???
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Ok so Kimbo just got KTFO by a journeyman from a lower weight class
by mmalogic on Oct 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep. And is anyone surprised?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
the reason you get sick to your stomach before these fights
I saw that and said, “that is the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.” There are a few times in life where you true soul is exposed. That was Jared’s.
by !claw on Oct 5, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I take some of it back.
The first “jab” definitely stunned and dropped Kimbo. But some of the follow up’s could have been to the back of the head and from ring side 100% could have looked like it was to the back of the head, but still, my main point about Jared’s sould being exposed still holds imo.
I just made $15 – thanks Seth
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
$90 here. Thanks Seth. And thanks to Nick for posting the link to that thread on the UG.
by idefinecagefighter on Oct 4, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Kimbo gets a mulligan? lol
"I should apologize to girls for saying Sexson threw that helmet like a girl. I’m not even sure girls do that." - TAG 05/08/2008
Anywhere, Anybody, Anytime - KTFO.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I would have been happier if it was Shamrock – at least he could have retired with a win
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
ESPN is going to go back to not giving a crap about MMA, unfortunately.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
UFC on ESPN would be awesome.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Actually...
it was a right hand and Seth is right handed. So it was a lead right straight (jab would be a left hand from that stance). Still it was on one leg so it isn’t like he was able to fire full on at him with it. It was just a clean shot.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Ferguson is officially over
A TUF reject? In a lower weightclass?
It’s over.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Haha yes
I’d love to see Derek do some ultimate fighting. Not sure about his takedown defense though.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich.--Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
This is why I said Kimbo either needs a guaranteed win or to be fed to someone who can be is or can be a legit star – ala tito ortiz…
Seth Petrizeli????
the bubble just burst and there aint no bail out here folks
Definition of a MMA promotion nightmare:
Half of your Main Event can’t even make it to the fight and your superstar gets TKO’d doing what he does best by an unknown with less than a days notice.
Nightmare for a promotion like EliteXC, that has so much riding on a couple fighters. For the UFC, its just a minor bump in the road.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus the dude is a light heavy and has pink hair.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They could always
Pretend Seth is all-pro and Kimbo is still great. But they might wanna fix a fight or two cause if Kimbo gets KO’ed again…
Yes, Seth inherits them along with the beard.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dana White must be shitting his pants with glee
Cause he was so worried about EXC getting Kimbo’s exposure… right, BE?
by Derek Suboticki on Oct 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
The only possible way EXC isn't dead is if they continue the cross promotion with CBS, and do Andrei-Fedor. It won't happen though.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
EXC=FUCT
See how much ad revenue they left on the table by letting Affliction run those ads all night long? Totally not worth it, and Affliction would never give them the Fedor/Arlovski bout.
Total disaster for EXC
That last nut with Kimbo didn’t even last long enough to make advertising revenue w/ the ratings spike he undoubtedly created.
How the public views it:
Big scary unshaven thug who fought on the streets and had a tough life, becomes a huge star with a huge following…loses to a replacement level fratboy-looking dude with pink hair who had hours notice and wasn’t even supposed to be on the main card.
This is hilarious. Its like finding out Barney isn’t real (God that was a tough day). My brother falls under the public viewing, and it was hilarious calling him right after the KO. If you know any casual fans, call them immediately. Their puppy just got kicked.
Don't know if this was posted
But it was clear that Shaw was yelling “back of the head”. I think that is so funny.
I hope that little punk spontaneously combusts.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't do the GIF thing
Sorry. It’s plain as day though while they were showing the replay I was watching Shaw.
Agree with Slica
My roomate was saying “Kimbo is a beast” and “Nobody has a chance”. I explained to him that that wasn’t the case. I think it was hilarious that he loast like that. Goodbye EliteXC.
Wow...Don't know what to say
I am one of the few people on here who was pulling for Kimbo. It’s unfortunate that the person he was suppose to fight gets a cut over his eye hours before showtime. With that said, Seth fought a good fight and deserves everything that comes from beating Kimbo. As for Kimbo, I doubt this is the last you will see of him. When he was backstage and coming to the ring, he didn’t look right. I’m sure he was shellshocked.
This dude is under more pressure than any of you could even fathom. He never backed down and took his lost in stride. I believe this lost will make him better. You don’t hear him complaining about his fame like Carano.
As for Elite XC, you just have to wait and see how the numbers do for them. If they continue to co-promote with Affliction we might see them grow from here. Don’t bury Kimbo or EXC until the body is cold.
I’m sure Brett Rogers will get that Kimbo fight after all.
They're not letting...
Rogers anywhere near Kimbo right now. They gotta build up the hype train again. Rogers would put him to sleep. And twice in a row = not worth anything anymore.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 4, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
if they havbe half a brain, they will already have their PR people working to build up Seth
Does CBS want to prop up a promotion when there star is pretty damageed? That’s the $55 million question.
by Cannon Jacques on Oct 4, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is they? EliteXC isn’t gonna last long enough, and nobody else will have much if any use for Slice.
I’d say his MMA career is over.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
what is a mulligan?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
thanks
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Spare a thought for Brett Rogers in all of this.
by idefinecagefighter on Oct 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
Poor guy. He coulda been a contendah. Well, he still might but he just lost his surefire mealticket.
by Chris Nelson on Oct 4, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
do you guys think the kick did it? it looks like it may have been a liver kick
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Yeah, I never even saw what dropped him. It looked just like a front kick that tapped the chin.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Elite XC = 55 mil in the hole with their “star” just getting KTFO by a nobody.
Who do you think wouldl be interested in funding this shit hole?
I like to call this...
The ShawSHANK Redemption.
Wow, Shaw looked very upset
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Was thinking
of making yet another D&D reference.
Petruzelli by Quivering Palm.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Question, what does everyone think EXC should have done upon learning of Shamrock’s injury?
Was there a better option than giving him Seth?
Not really. Their best shot was Kimbo managing to beat whichever replacement fighter they gave him. I think Petruzelli and Rosa were the only options, and no way to know that Rosa would have been a better option, or even if he was a better option.
by Michaelthebox on Oct 4, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
This was a pretty good night of fights, but the ending really woke me up to the reality of EXC’s product and the two reasons I just can’t root for them— Kimbo was their only real male star/focal point and $kala is a fucking major league douchebag. Now that I’ve seen him shouting “back of the head” and telling the ref not to end the fight, I’m pissed. Say what you like about Dana and some of his behaviour in interviews and the like, but he NEVER tries to effect the outcome of a fight and is always a total professional at live events. That kid makes me nauseous and I’d love a chean shot at his chin.
by Blackout612 on Oct 5, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Very true, Dana rarely shows any emotion other than a smirk here and there
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
For sure
He’s also maintained that he can be friends with some of the fighters, but not ever pick sides.
EXC should build up Seth now – the UFC didn’t
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
I think it’s the total wrong set of circumstances. It was truly a disaster for them. Seth just isn’t a dominating or marketable fighter. Sure, they’ll try, but I have no doubt that it will fail.
His fights on TUF were really good – and in my opinion I think he won against Brad Imes.
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Mcnealy beat tyson… the most popular boxer in the world at that time.
What happend to mcnealy after? Same thing will happen to Seth.
Kimbo is a joke
Kimbo slice is a joke.
by thesportsaffiliate on Oct 5, 2008 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
I'm going to throw this out here as I don't want to make a full post of it...
but after re-watching…I can see that I was wrong on blaming Nelson for the stand-up. I still think he should have worked a bit harder than he did. But it was clear that he was doing enough to not get stood up.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 5, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
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