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Bloody Elbow October MMA Meta-Rankings: Featherweight

Fighter PointsPromotion
1. Urijah Faber 300  WEC
2.  Mike Thomas Brown 217
WEC
3. Wagnney Fabiano 206
WEC
4. Masakazu Imanari 182
DEEP
5. Jeff Curran 177
WEC
5. Hatsu Hioki 177
TKO/Shooto
7. Akitoshi Tamura 175
WEC
8. Dokonjonosuke Mishima 160  DEEP 
9. Hideki Kadowaki 156  Shooto 
10. Norifumi Yamamoto 155  DREAM(?) 
11. Leonard Garcia  152 WEC 
12. Takeshi Inoue 146  Shooto 
13. Jens Pulver 111  WEC
14.  Hiroyuki Takaya 101  WEC 
15. Rafael Assuncao  85  AFL
16. Marlon Sandro  73  Pancrase
17. Akiyo Nishiura  65 GCM/Shooto 
18. Mark Hominick 64  Affliction 
19.  Yuji Hoshino 63  GCM 
20. Bao Quach 59  Icon 
21. Josh Grispi  52 WEC 
 21.  Cub Swanson 51 WEC 
23. Wilson Reis  49 EliteXC 
24. Antonio Carvalho  46  GCM/Shooto
25. Fredson Paixao 44   GCF
25. Miguel Torres 44   WEC

Thanks to Richard  this month we're adding featherweights to the BloodyElbow Meta-rankings.

I've got to admit I don't keep up with this division as well as I should. Feel free to correct my mistakes in the comments!

First off, the WEC is clearly the dominant promotion in these rankings with 10 of the top 25 and 4 of the top 10.

Between former UFC lightweights like #13 Jens Pulver and #11 Leonard Garcia moving down to fight at 145 in the WEC and Japanese stars like #7 Akitoshi Tamura and #14 Hiroyuki Takaya coming to the states to fight under their banner, the WEC is a real talent magnet.

Clearly the big upcoming match is #1 Urijah Faber vs #2 Mike Thomas Brown at WEC on November 5th (its a make up date for the hurricane cancelled September 10th date). Urijah is as dominating in this division as Fedor, Anderson Silva, GSP or B.J. Penn in theirs. Brown should be a tough fight for him but is a huge underdog.

That card will also feature Pulver vs Garcia in a fight I wish both guys could win. A Garcia win could land him a title shot against Faber. Not sure what Pulver would have to do to get a rematch.

At WEC 37 in December #3 Wagnney Fabiano will make his WEC debut against the aforementioned Akitoshi Tamura. That's a big fight, pitting the former IFL champ Fabiano against the shooto standout Tamura. I figure the winner will be on a fast track to challenge Faber as well.

Next month I'll have more to say about the Japanese featherweight scene, feel free to educate me in the comments.

NOTE: The Meta-Rankings are not the subjective opinion of the BloodyElbow team, but rather a compilation of the rankings of over twenty leading MMA web sites. It is our opinion that these are the most informative MMA rankings anywhere.

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Thanks to Richard for the charts above and his help in compiling this month's Meta-rankings.

Based on the premise that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink. instead of putting up our own subjective fighter rankings, we compile and average the rankings of every source we could find online.

The goal is to show how the MMA community rates the fighters, not to bore you with our opinions.

Be sure and look at the points, they're a much more telling number than the ranking. There's clearly a huge gulf between the top 9 fighters and those that follow.

A total of 50 fighters were ranked in the top 25 by one source or another, for reasons of sanity I only track the top 25 (26 due to a tie) most highly rated fighters.

25 points are awarded for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. Fuller explanation below.

Rankings were compiled from the following sites: MMA-ELO, MMA Fighting, MMA Weekly, Cage Potato, Octagon Buzz, FCFighterHouston Chronicle Brawl Sports, HDNet/Inside MMA, FightMatrix, Sherdog, and MMA/VT

The normalization scheme as explained by JCS of FightMatrix  is here:

The "normalization number" (new name) would be:

120
divided by
(Total Fighters Found in Any List minus 10)

Every fighter found somewhere else, but on a Top 10 list would be assigned this number.

The "normalization" number would not apply to a fighter not found on a Top 25 list. They would simply get 0.

So the process would be:

Do all of the Top 25 lists first, #1 = 25, #2 = 24…. #24 = 2, #25 = 1
Do all of the Top 10 lists, same scoring structure.. stops at #10 = 16

Figure out that normalization variable.

Fill in the normalization variable to all fighters not found in the Top 10 lists, but found elsewhere.

Do your totals and rank.

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Kid Nate, have you ever seen Yamamoto? If so, where do YOU put him?

by subo on Oct 31, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm..

That is very strange.

by Blackout612 on Oct 31, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was #1 for a long while, but hasn’t fought since last New Year’s Eve. That’s why you’d see some guys ranking him highly and some not ranking him at all.

by Richard Wade on Oct 31, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have him at Bantamweight..

His last fight was at Bantam

by JCS_FM on Oct 31, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Imanari, Reis and Quach, too.

by Richard Wade on Oct 31, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

There are a lot of catchweight bouts between Bantam and Feather.. so we moved our Bantam limit up to 140 in an attempt to catch those sometimes sporadic outliers.

by JCS_FM on Oct 31, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys use a point system. Are a fighter’s listed points only applicable to his ranking in the division he’s shown in or could we look at Yamamoto’s 112 points and then look at where 112 would fall at featherweight and slot him there in your rankings for the purpose of the MetaRankings?

by Richard Wade on Oct 31, 2008 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we're talking one division you could do that..

and it would be close enough for conversation’s sake.

by JCS_FM on Oct 31, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly just the bantam to feather guys because we have fewer sources to pull from.

by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2008 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to mention he hasn’t fought a top guy in the featherweight division since 2002-2003 when he was taking on Curran, Katsuta and Palling.

You could say he hasn’t really fought any top ranked fighters since then, but of course someone would mention Caol Uno and you’d have to give them a weird stare for admitting they had Caol ranked during that low period of his career. That’s just uncomfortable.

by ilostmydog on Oct 31, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

honestly the dude's a bantamweight

But he’s fought (and won) as high as 155lbs.
I’ve seen lots of his fights. I think he hasn’t fought alot recently so I understand why some sites don’t rank him and I see why some sites rank him as a batamweight.
For my dollar I want to see him fight Urijah Faber as much as I want to see Fedor vs Randy, Anderson Silva vs Cung Le, or any other fantasy fight.

by Kid Nate on Oct 31, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on the fantasy fight

On the other hand, I think he could knock Jeff Curran the fuck out.

by subo on Oct 31, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d much rather see Yamamoto/Faber than either Emelianenko/Couture or Silva/Le.

by Richard Wade on Oct 31, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent

I was just thinking, probably two hours ago, how great it would be to move to lower weights on the Meta-rankings. Great job guys..

by Blackout612 on Oct 31, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Octagon Buzz? they are really an outlier. They have 4 in there top 10 that are not even ranked by anyone else.

by szucconi on Oct 31, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also, if any of you know of any decent featherweight rankings please let us know.

by Richard Wade on Oct 31, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm disappointed in myself...

I need to up my knowledge of weight classes under 155.

by Tonley on Oct 31, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are the tabulation charts complete??

If so, I’m noticing some issues..

For instance, how is Emmanuel Fernandez ranked above Brian Bowles when they are each only listed on FightMatrix and Bowles has the higher rank?

by JCS_FM on Oct 31, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They are complete. Fernandez was ranked on a Top 25 where Bowles was unranked. Bowles was ranked in a Top 10 where Fernandez was unranked. The reason Fernandez is ranked higher is because he received points from the Top 10 via the normalization number whereas Bowles received zero points from the ranking site that Fernandez was ranked in.

by Richard Wade on Nov 1, 2008 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooohhh

I made the system for you guys and I didn’t figure that one out :)

by JCS_FM on Nov 1, 2008 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys should consider dropping the rankings from ‘Octagon Buzz.’ They are just completely inexplicable.

The guy has two BWs ranked at FW (Miguel Torres & Brian Bowles). It’s not even the borderline stuff like the 140 lb EXC guys. Both those two compete at 135 lbs. He’s also inexplicably got Mark Oshiro sneaking in at number ten. Oshiro wasn’t even top ten worthy BEFORE he was beaten by Bao Quach in August. To rank him two months after that is just mental.

worst of all, this guy has Jorge Santiago ranked at #6…in his FWs. The same Jorge Santiago who is fighting in the MW tournament in Sengoku tomorrow night….yeah. That’s reaaaaaaallly bad for credibility.

by ilostmydog on Oct 31, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeaaaah...

thats pretty pathetic…

by skwirrl on Oct 31, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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