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Bloody Elbow October MMA Meta-Rankings: Middleweight

Fighter PointsPromotionLast Rank
1. Anderson Silva 400 UFC 1
2. Paulo Filho 376 WEC/UFC 2
3.Yushin Okami 328 UFC 3
4. Robbie Lawler 322 Elite XC
4
5. Dan Henderson 290 UFC 5
6. Nathan Marquardt 288 UFC 6
7. Gegard Mousasi 256 DREAM 11
8. Rich Franklin 232 UFC 7
9. Matt Lindland 212 Affliction 9
10. Kazuo Misaki 201 WVR/Strikeforce 8
11. Frank Trigg 192 WVR/Strikeforce 10
12.Yoshihiro Akiyama 162 ??? 12
13. Thales Leites 157 UFC 13
14. Patrick Cote 140 UFC 14
15. Michael Bisping 113 UFC 15
16. Demian Maia 90 UFC 17
17. Ronaldo Souza 88 DREAM 16
18. Jorge Santiago 80 WVR/Strikeforce 20
18. Jason Miller 80 DREAM 19
20. Martin Kampmann 79 UFC 18
21. Cung Le 54
Strikeforce
23
22. Denis Kang 53 SpiritMC/DREAM
NR
23. Chris Leben 50 UFC 22
23. Chael Sonnen 50 WEC/UFC 24
23. Jason MacDonald 50 UFC NR

As with the Heavyweights and Light-Heavies, these standings were compiled before the last two UFC events.  Although I'll be pretty astonished if any of those bouts have a dramatic impact on the standings. For all the bitching, everyone still thinks Anderson Silva is the best at 185.

Despite a continued perception that the UFC middleweight division is weak, with the addition of the WEC middles they've got 13 of the top 25 185'ers in the world. And if Anderson Silva goes ahead and moves up to 205 -- and honestly who's left for him to fight at 185 -- it could be a very fun and competitive battle to claim the belt.

#8 Rich Franklin and #5 Dan Henderson will be facing off at UFC 93 in January. Unfortunately that fight will be at 205lbs. BUT supposedly the winner will coach the next season of TUF to set up a match against British coach #15 Michael Bisping. Of course Franklin claims he's not interested in coaching TUF. I guess we'll see how that turns out. IMO, they should've booked Franklin vs Henderson at 185 instead of Franklin/Hamill and Henderson/Palhares but whatcha gonna do.

#2 Paulo Filho will be re-matching #23 Chael Sonnen at the next WEC on November 5th. This is Filho's chance to prove that rehab works and re-establish himself as a major factor in this division before coming to the UFC. #3 Yushin Okami missed his title shot against Silva due to a broken hand and will be fighting Dean Lister at UFC 92 in a fight that really means nothing unless Okami loses.

The rest of the UFC 185 pack remains a jumble, #6 Nate Marquardt is surging off his demolition of #19 Martin Kampmann.  #13 Thales Leites dodged a bullet when Goran Reljic (#24 at LHW) got hurt and had to sit out UFC 90. No word on who's next for either fighter. #16 Demian Maia will be tested against Nate Quarry at UFC 91. If he beats Quarry, he'll truly have established himself as a title contender.

As for the other promotions, #4 Robbie Lawler may or may not be caught in the EliteXC black hole for the foreseeable future. Unless he's trapped in court for the next two years, he's better off. There was no competition for him there. Now he's got possibilities -- returning to the UFC, going to Japan, Strikeforce or Affliction could all be in his future.

#7 Gegard Mousasi roared into the top 10 after winning the DREAM grand-prix. He's due to fight Vitor Belfort at the next Affliction. That should be a good one. WIsh he was fighting #9 Matt Lindland instead. Lindland will either be fighting perennially ranked LHW Babalu Sobral or Trevor Prangley. Either would be fun but not especially relevant unless Sobral wins and moves to 185 after.

Its too bad Mousasi won't get a shot at DREAM anti-star #12 Yoshihiro Akiyama anytime soon but word is Akiyama is headed to WVR or somewhere else. If he does go to to WVR/Sengoku he'll be in prime position to rematch #10 Kazuo Misaki. Of course that's assuming that Misaki beats the winner of WVR's grand-prix which is no joke with #18 Jorge Santiago, long-time PRIDE LHW star Kazuhiro Nakamura and Shooto champ Siyar Bahadurzada.

That's not even mentioning Misaki's other promotion, Strikeforce. They're quietly putting together a nice little division with #21 Cung Le leading the way. I'm predicting Le will gain at least 5 places on this chart if not 10 before he fights next. If the hype is what I'm expecting, anyway.  I'd love to see #11 Frank Trigg against Misaki, or Santiago in Strikeforce or Sengoku. It's too much to hope that Strikeforce would risk the Cung Le franchise against a tough wrestler, but I'd really love to see that -- I actually like Le's chances against Trigg.

Richard has added some very cool charts, including the standings of each fighter in the top 25 against top 10 and top 25 competition. Thanks Richard!

NOTE: The Meta-Rankings are not the subjective opinion of the BloodyElbow team, but rather a compilation of the rankings of over twenty leading MMA web sites. It is our opinion that these are the most informative MMA rankings anywhere.

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Based on the premise that opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink. instead of putting up our own subjective fighter rankings, we compile and average the rankings of every source we could find online.

The goal is to show how the MMA community rates the fighters, not to bore you with our opinions.

Be sure and look at the points, they're a much more telling number than the ranking. There's clearly a huge gulf between the top 9 fighters and those that follow.

A total of 43 fighters were ranked in the top 25 by one source or another, for reasons of sanity I only track the top 25 (26 due to a tie) most highly rated fighters.

25 points are awarded for a first place ranking, 16 for a 10th place ranking, 1 for a 25th place ranking. A formula is used to "normalize" the data so all fighters are awarded points from those lists that do not include a full 25 fighters. Fuller explanation below.

Rankings were compiled from the following sites:  WAMMA, Fighters.com, MMA Ratings, Fight Magazine, Total-MMA, Houston Chronicle Brawl Sports, MMA/VT, HDNet/Inside MMA, MMA Playground, FightMatrix, Sherdog, MMA Weekly, TAGG Radio, MMA-ELO, FCFighter, and MMA Fighting.

The normalization scheme as explained by JCS of FightMatrix  is here:

The "normalization number" (new name) would be:

120
divided by
(Total Fighters Found in Any List minus 10)

Every fighter found somewhere else, but on a Top 10 list would be assigned this number.

The "normalization" number would not apply to a fighter not found on a Top 25 list. They would simply get 0.

So the process would be:

Do all of the Top 25 lists first, #1 = 25, #2 = 24…. #24 = 2, #25 = 1
Do all of the Top 10 lists, same scoring structure.. stops at #10 = 16

Figure out that normalization variable.

Fill in the normalization variable to all fighters not found in the Top 10 lists, but found elsewhere.

Do your totals and rank.

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Nate, anyone on this list

Make a good possible opponent for a short notice fight with Anderson Silva at UFC 91?

by Day Man on Oct 28, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

look at LHW

that’s where the sexy is for Anderson.

by Kid Nate on Oct 28, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about Feijao?

http://eliotmarshall.com/

by BJJDenver on Oct 28, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

forgot he trains with Silva.

Oh, and stupid EXC! lol.

http://eliotmarshall.com/

by BJJDenver on Oct 29, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cool stuffa as always

Is Lindland/Sobral at 185 or 205? Same for Hendo/Franklin? I hadn’t either way yet (don’t know how I’ve missed it, I have no life outside of the internet).

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Oct 28, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hendo/Franklin is at 205

Lindland/Sobral is at a higher weight than 185 but not 205, I think it’s 195 for some reason.

by Kid Nate on Oct 28, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Odd that it's at a catchweight

Have you seen pictures of Babalu lately? Fightlinker had some; he looks rough:

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Oct 28, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

He looks ok in the other pics, I think this is just a horrible one. If I ever get famous, I want Viking taking my shots, not Pesh.

by mythbuster on Oct 28, 2008 11:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No word on who’s next for either fighter or #16 Demian Maia.

Isn’t Maia set to fight Nate Quarry at UFC 91 in November?

by dropkick101 on Oct 28, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rankings

I think Cung Le is drastically underrrated.

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Oct 28, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Serously?

The guy, so far, as mostly fought guys who are willing to play into his game. I would love to see a good ground fighter go against Cung Le, rather than fighters who are willing to walk around the ring taking heel kicks to the back and side of the head.

Don’t get me wrong, he is a very amazing martial artist…but I have a feeling that a well rounded MMA fighter would expose him.

by Razreshat on Oct 29, 2008 8:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We'll see

The ace in the hole Cung has is that Sanshou includes throws and takedowns plus he’s got a college wrestling background so he’ll actually be pretty tough to get down.
The real weaknesses in his game, IMO, are likely to be:
1) clinch fighting — sanshou doesn’t allow it, so dirty boxing and the thai plum might both be dangerous for Cung, however he’s damn good at throwing from the clinch.
2) he’s small. he really ought to cut the weight and fight at 170. He’d be giving up around 20+ pounds to most middleweights.
3) his endurance. this was frank shamrocks bet, that Cung’s unconventional striking is too fatiguing to continue into the later rounds. Frank didn’t get to find out.

by Kid Nate on Oct 29, 2008 9:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Cung may be caught in the “what constitutes the rankings” problem.

Do you rank him by what you think he could do?
or by who he has beaten?
or by his record?
or by what problems a great bjj guy may give him?
or by what org he fights in?

I agree, I’m surprised he isn’t ranked somewhat higher, but it isn’t way off, imo.

http://eliotmarshall.com/

by BJJDenver on Oct 29, 2008 11:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah he's an unknown factor at this point

personally I’m pretty high on him but there are many many unanswered questions. I wouldn’t rank him much higher than #20 if at all.

by Kid Nate on Oct 29, 2008 2:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The guy with zero fights against anyone else in the top 25 is underrated? Maybe if he fights anyone of note we’ll be able to find out.

by Richard Wade on Oct 29, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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