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Why MMA and Boxing Struggle to Have Similar Fans and Fighters

Fronted by Kid Nate. Flattered to have you posting here Dr. Mayeda!

When I interviewed "Rampage" Jackson back in 2006, he said of boxing and MMA:

I think the boxing community is player hatin’ on us ‘cause you have the athletic commission, it’s often called the boxing commission, and they’re over MMA too. So I think we’re getting player hated on a little bit ‘cause we’re comin’ up and they’re goin’ down. Right now all the heavyweight champions are Russian, except for one, and it’s bad for boxing right now. In America, boxing is going down fast, and mixed martial arts is goin’ up fast. So people can’t just be happy for each other and work together.

"Rampage’s" point regarding the international flavor that now characterizes many of boxing’s top athletes illustrates the separate directions in which the two sports are moving. Like boxing, MMA has an enormous number of mixed martial artists not from the United States. However, American MMA fans have embraced some of those from foreign soil, such as Georges St. Pierre, Anderson Silva, Wanderlei Silva, and even Mirco Filipovic not too long ago. On the contrary, how many American fans get behind the likes of Manny Pacquiao or Wladimir Klitshko? More to the point, how many mainstream American sports fan even recognize those latter names?

Historically, boxing’s fan base has been immensely diverse in terms of socio-economic status. Boxing has always had its upper-class fans who reveled in watching minorities of color bash each other into oblivion. But boxers of the past also stood for working- and lower-class communities and symbolically represented those communities’ needs. Over the decades, this influenced urban youth of color prior to the 21st century to identify (often times politically) with Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Oscar De La Hoya. On the contrary, MMA’s development was much more sudden and immediately took on an international identity when Royce Gracie dominated the UFC in the mid- to late-1990s.

Yet when the UFC began attaining mainstream sporting status as a result of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) in 2005, many of the champions who built the organization at that time came from wrestling backgrounds – a sport whose demographics tend to be much more white and middle-class. Just look at the first four coaches on TUF. Randy Couture, Chuck Liddell, and Matt Hughes were the UFC poster-boys, all of whom came from strong wrestling backgrounds. Likewise, Rich Franklin was heavily marketed as a proud UFC representative, commonly celebrated as a high school math teacher with a masters degree. None of these heroes who took MMA into the sporting mainstream represented urban America, and certainly not communities of color.

In turn, MMA has had difficulty reaching America’s urban demographic, which boxing captured for decades. In most working-class, urban communities across the United States, it is still easy to find boxing gyms where memberships are not terribly expensive. Locating a pure boxing gym in an upper-middle class American neighborhood is virtually impossible. In comparison, MMA gyms are popping up all across American suburbia, and it is not uncommon for monthly membership costs to exceed $200 if one wants to learn the multiple fighting disciplines that comprise MMA.

Said MMA veteran fighter Antonio McKee, who owns and operates The Body Shop Fitness in Lakewood, California in a personal interview, "There are very few African Americans who own their own gyms and who reach out to kids from the inner city. We’re gonna see more African Americans and fighters of African descent dominating in MMA, like "Rampage," Anderson Silva, and Yves Edwards, but because the gyms aren’t bringing in the kids from ghetto, it’s gonna take longer for MMA to have a big urban fan base."

The real key to building a truly diverse fan base and assemblage of fighters over time lies at the grass roots levels through the gyms. Tiger Woods has not built an extensive African American fan base for golf because golf is still an inaccessible sport for most African American communities, or working-class communities irrespective of race. Let’s face it, golf’s general demographics have not changed to the degree people thought they would after Tiger stormed onto the golf scene back in the late 1990s. The same is true for tennis – Venus and Serina Williams and James Blake have not stimulated an enthusiastic wave of young African American athletes who now try to break into tennis.

The National Basketball Association is popular among multiple socio-economic and ethnically diverse communities not only because it is an exciting sport, but also because youth from numerous demographics play basketball and remain fans into adulthood. As Antonio McKee suggests, if MMA gyms do not begin increasing their outreach efforts to urban communities and make MMA training programs affordable to all families, MMA will remain a sport whose fan base and fighters are disproportionately Caucasian and upper class.

David Mayeda, PhD is author of the book, Fighting for Acceptance: Mixed Martial Artists and Violence in American Society

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Excellent write up. Thanks!

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by BJJDenver on Oct 21, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool man, I’m enjoying your TUF blogs.

by dmayeda on Oct 21, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If I could rec this 10 times I would. Nice write up.

by Tonley on Oct 21, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah….front page material, for sure …

mr. mayeda…i love your stuff…….if you are interested in excerpting a passage from your book over at mmapayout let me know,,,maybe we can do something…

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by robnashville on Oct 21, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good stuff, I definatly agree with this becuase I can’t afford to train MMA anymore becuase I’m short on money. Sucks that lower class people can’t reap the benefits of MMA training.

by Zack Gobie on Oct 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Miguel Torres teaches BJJ to children at his gym for free if they can’t afford it. If only more fighters could be like Miguel, in a lot of ways.

by dumbwhiteguy on Oct 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m glad this piece was retrieved amongst the EliteXC posts. I’m proud to have been the first to rec this baby. Keep up the good work, Dr. Mayeda.

by Cannon Jacques on Oct 22, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another feather for Bloody Elbow's cap

Dr. Mayeda’s post is another sign BE is continuing to grow into the pre-eminent site for discussion MMA. Hey frontpagers, give Dr. Mayeda a weekly guest column!

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by thetakeover on Oct 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here Here!

Something like this, relating MMA to the non-MMA world, it’s wider applications & associations, so to speak. Kudos to the guys running BE for drawing in the smart crowd.

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by themachiavellian on Oct 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

anytime Dr Mayeda wants to post on BE

we’ll have room on the front page.

by Kid Nate on Oct 22, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mahalo Nate. I’ll see what I can put together here and there…quality over quantity m’man.
Dave

by dmayeda on Oct 23, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting piece

I notice every few months there is an article about the African-American disconnect in MMA.

Our local MMA gym just raised it’s rates to $130 a month for a gym pass. Jiu-Jitsu at my gym is $85 a month. Any inner city minorities interested in getting involved are effectively priced out of joining. I wouldn’t spend too long trying to figure out why both the fans and participants of martial arts in general are primarly white kids. I just spent $250 on nose bleed seats to watch the UFC in Chicago this weekend and with $50 PPV fees it’s easy to see the disconnect.

On the other hand, our local boxing gym is ran as a non-profit and is used to get kids off the streets and doesn’t charge gym fees. Located in the inner city they enjoy a large minority population at the gym.

MMA has a long way to go and I don’t believe that the industry even cares about attracting demographics without large disposable incomes. Think about how much you money you spend each month on this sport.

by Nate414 on Oct 22, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I Disagree

Maybe its just me being sick and tired of any discussion anymore getting broken down to class structure / race debates but, I disagree with the heart of this discussion.

I’ve spent a decent chunk of my life doing boxing/judo/bjj training and the MMA training is a lot more instructor intensive then boxing, which is a possible reason why mma classes/gyms generally cost higher then boxing. You can’t expect mma based gyms/classes to lower rates to accommodate everyone.

MMA is not a charity sport like midget football or t-ball. It involves sacrifice, discipline and determination. If people aren’t willing to make the right decisions to pursue an MMA dream you can’t blame the sport for not reaching out to them.

by Shackelford on Oct 24, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It involves sacrifice, discipline and determination. If people aren’t willing to make the right decisions to pursue an MMA dream you can’t blame the sport for not reaching out to them.

Not being able to afford MMA classes means someone doesn’t believe in sacrifice, discipline and determination?

by Tonley on Oct 25, 2008 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much, if someone wants something bad enough they can make the right choices with their life. If affording an extra $100-$200 a month is a problem they could: get a cheaper car, cheaper auto insurance, move into a cheaper apartment if they rent, get a better job, get a part time 2nd job, make changes to the groceries or the clothes they buy, maybe get a cheaper cell phone plan, perhaps cutback on extracurricular activities, sell off unneeded electronics, etc etc etc….

Fact of the matter is there are choices and there are excuses.

by Shackelford on Oct 25, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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