Deadspin Writer Comes Around on Lloyd Irvin
by Luke Thomas on Oct 16, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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PrintAs I stated earlier, I put Deadspin.com writer Rick Chandler in touch with Lloyd Irvin after he took me up on my offer. Chandler doesn't issue an outright apology to this site or Irvin, but realizes he probably could've handled the whole matter far more wisely:
On Wednesday I posted about Lloyd Irvin, the Maryland Mixed Martial Arts instructor who said that he thwarted a home invasion robbery by disarming one of the intruders with a martial arts defensive move. If this were true, I wondered, why had it not been picked up by any news source other than the MMA site Bloody Elbow? Probably not a wise question on my part, seeing that Irvin could possibly break me like a Hummel figurine.
But more importantly, on the chance that it could be true, my snarky attitude in the post was quite probably inappropriate. At any rate, I got my phone number to Irvin — who is in England coaching Brandon Vera in a UFC lightheavyweight nontitle bout with Keith Jardine on Saturday — and he called me Wednesday afternoon. Hilarity did not ensue.
Read the rest of the post where Irvin gives his side of the story.
Critics will still say we are forced to take Irvin's word about the events that happened in his home. Ultimately, that's true, but that doesn't trouble me in the least. In the years I've known him, he's never lied to me and I am perfectly aware of his capabilities. I also imagine once this weekend passes Brandon Vera will be more than willing to share his version of events. And when he does, I'll make sure to post them here.
This is partly why I spend as little amount of time as possible on MMA message boards. To think there are people who believe Irvin would concoct a story like this to sell a few more membership deals is beyond the pale. And I, for one, want nothing to do with them.
UPDATE: I just received an email from Irvin to me and Chandler. Some of the details in Chandler's new piece are apparently incorrect. Stay tuned.
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what a terrible comments section there. one of the reasons I like this site is there is little flack and bullshit accepted here, there it’s like people have nothing better to do than spew shit all over every thread.
Which is better, a community of jackasses and threads that are long in size or small threads with 3-4 posts but every one of them actually pertains to the subject?
Don’t get me wrong, I like a funny comment as much as the next guy but when 90% of the posts are inane drivel it’s time to put in some moderation people.
Yeah
Someone over there commented that clips don’t eject out of guns like DVD players, which is totally wrong. In fact, most do. That still leaves the possibility of a round remaining in the chamber, but magazines and clips are ejected with release buttons. I played with probably every hand gun known to man in the Marines and you learn that fairly quickly.
Oh
And they referenced Jet Li in their posts to as removing the clip, which is NOT what he did in Lethal Weapon 4. That was removing the upper receiver, not the clip.
Someone over there commented that clips don’t eject out of guns like DVD players, which is totally wrong. In fact, most do.
Seriously that guy/gal must have never held a pistol before. You hit the release clip button while holding a gun and the clip will drop right out if nothing is below it. My only “hmm moment” is that the gun would still be loaded with the bullet in the chamber. That being said if I was a robber and some guy grabbed the gun and dropped the clip out of my gun I’d probably end up running too!!!
If a round was chambered. Given the huge difference in penalty between armed robbery and murder, I wouldn’t chamber around unless things looked to be going south. Would you?
Not that I give a lot of thought to home invasions…
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
by jemaleddin on Oct 17, 2008 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like how the title is “In Which I Am Yelled At By A Black Belt Jiu-Jitsu Champion”, and the picture is Irvin drinking from a melon like a beach bum and not at all scary. I know it’s Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, but the dissonance in the article is funny.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Oct 16, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
Everybody realizes that Gawker sites are mostly shit, right? If it weren’t for Jalopnik and Lifehacker, I’d say they were all shit…
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
because...
they created a culture of “gotta be schticky!” which only got worse after Will left the staff. Where sites like ours push a culture of accountability and reason…they thrive on stupid garbage comments referencing one of 20 standard “inside jokes” or their funny topic of the day.
The site has turned into garbage and lost its early edgy relevance within the sports world.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 16, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the appeal of Gawker.
And frankly – I like having the choice to go to places like that. In terms of MMA blogs: If I want a serious discussion, I visit BE. If I want a joke-fest, I go to FL. And if I want to read “LOL FAG” and “UR TEH HOMO HOMO” I go to CP.
There’s a place for that snarky shit – just be glad that it’s over there and not over here!
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
lifehacker...
is part of the Gawker Media Network.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 17, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
You’d think the “Gawker Media” links in all of those sidebars would make that explicit, but I guess people have learned to filter anything that looks ad-y.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones
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