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Why Andrew Sullivan (and I) Blog(s)

Andrew Sullivan - hugely successful political blogger and former editor of The New Republic who now has an editorial position at The Atlantic - has a new essay describing why he blogs. Sullivan has a long history as an essayist, book author and writer in more established literary print traditions. But he's also a blogger, so he occupies a strange place where he is now a member of the Old and New Guard of Media Types.

What does this have to do with MMA? Not much or anything even. But this site is a blog. And as a blog in MMA, we are often ridiculed as unprofessional. We are banned by the largest and most successful MMA organization in the existence from covering live events. And most notably, we are labeled as simply unaccountable to anyone or anything. All of the charges are false, of course, but Sullivan's response to this particular charge captured my attention:

And so blogging found its own answer to the defensive counterblast from the journalistic establishment. To the charges of inaccuracy and unprofessionalism, bloggers could point to the fierce, immediate scrutiny of their readers. Unlike newspapers, which would eventually publish corrections in a box of printed spinach far from the original error, bloggers had to walk the walk of self-correction in the same space and in the same format as the original screwup. The form was more accountable, not less, because there is nothing more conducive to professionalism than being publicly humiliated for sloppiness. Of course, a blogger could ignore an error or simply refuse to acknowledge mistakes. But if he persisted, he would be razzed by competitors and assailed by commenters and abandoned by readers. In an era when the traditional media found itself beset by scandals as disparate as Stephen Glass, Jayson Blair, and Dan Rather, bloggers survived the first assault on their worth. In time, in fact, the high standards expected of well-trafficked bloggers spilled over into greater accountability, transparency, and punctiliousness among the media powers that were. Even New York Times columnists were forced to admit when they had been wrong.

Sullivan's essay is more a look into what compels him to blog, why blogging is important for journalism and what blogging's role will play in the future. But it is also a defense of the blogging format from a person who can answer the doubts about blogging from the perspective of the traditional journalist. It's worth a read and provides an excellent look into what the blogger goes through as they navigate this comparitvely new and exciting medium.

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I wonder how much more pompus and self important this site is going to get before one of the writers notices

by 813278 on Oct 16, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Luke, how pompous of you to mention that blogging a effective communication medium.

I bet you still hate blacks and think I’m gay.

by asa on Oct 16, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Edit button? Please?
blogging is an effective blah-blah …

by asa on Oct 16, 2008 3:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m gay.

No edit button for you. Stand by your statement, asa! We support you!

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 16, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Now that’s an effective use of blockquote.

by Cannon Jacques on Oct 16, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re Here! You’re Misquoted! Get Used To It!

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 17, 2008 8:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is too funny

But I’m too busy writing a memo to the BE staff about the proper use of thee and thou to comment.

by Kid Nate on Oct 16, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why doth thou jest so?

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 16, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sullivan

I am big fan of his, and trust his opinions whether I agree with them or not. Much like I do with your site.

by Schifftis on Oct 16, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blogs

About the only site I visit more than this one is the Daily Dish, so I was somewhat pumped to see the reference…my view of the the whole Blog Phenomenon is they are often a better view on what is occurring in their respective specialties, be it MMA or politically based.

Further, the accountability for blogs, much like Sully posts and you back up, is not only much more visible, it typically happens in a Real-Time format while being subjected to criticism from the moment one hits “post.”

Much of the news I read regardless of specialty is derived from blogs, and I suspect I am far from the only one who feels this way…Old-Media is experiencing a decline, in both sales and creativity, and instead of turning to embrace new forms of media dissemination, would rather debase their new found competitors.

Frankly, its only a matter of time before all this changes.

J

by JayThane on Oct 16, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So this explains how a blogger can be held accountable in the same way as a journalist. Which I think we all knew.

Now somebody please explain Andrew Sullivan to me: gay conservative Obama-supporter. FWAH? I wouldn’t want to be his shrink.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 16, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sullivan’s success is almost entirely due to having a permanent link on Drudge Report iirc.

by Richard Wade on Oct 16, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is grossly unfair.

by Luke Thomas on Oct 16, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, Sullivan’s an intellectual lightweight. He’s been thoroughly fisked by everybody with a political blog. Until he came down against the war, he was the joke of the internet, and now people only link to him to say, “Hey – this conservative even agrees with us!”

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 16, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sullivan’s less conservative than Hillary Clinton.

by Richard Wade on Oct 16, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In some ways. His beliefs are quite a mixed bag.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 17, 2008 8:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And some of the ideas he espouses probably aren’t even what he actually believes. He got a taste of getting love from sites like HuffPo and DailyKos (who is great, thanks for SBN). He seemed to like it and has gone hard left on a number issues he previously claimed to feel differently about.

by Richard Wade on Oct 17, 2008 6:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re welcome to disagree, but I don’t agree with this at all. He’s got his issues to be sure, but to think he’s a lightweight is simply not accurate.

by Luke Thomas on Oct 16, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It totally is. Have you looked at his numbers or where his hits come from? If anything, it’s the Huffington Post that gives him hits, but the growth of his blog in terms of traffic is only marginally related to him being linked at drudgereport.

http://www.sitemeter.com/?a=stats&s=sm3DishStats&r=52

by Luke Thomas on Oct 16, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You’re looking at recent history AFTER he became a famous blogger. If you went back in time to his more conservative days, you’d see a very different story.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Oct 17, 2008 8:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bloody Elbow is banned?

From covering UFC events? Or am I reading that wrong? Is there a reason why?

by Discman2 on Oct 16, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correct

They won’t credential us because we are not considering a mainstream, traditional news source. All blogs are banned.

EXCEPT….

The Big Lead somehow managed to get credentialed, so explain that one to me.

by Luke Thomas on Oct 16, 2008 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the MMA world I think blogs are about the only news sources as far as I’m concerned. MMA doesn’t have an ESPN and even ESPN doesn’t even cover 5% of MMA. Not all papers cover MMA and even the ones that do, blog their news.

by Discman2 on Oct 16, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Media Outlet"

I’m still trying to figure out what a “media outlet” is, after being told citation isn’t necessary as I am not a “media outlet”.

Quite surprising after being called frequently about the topic, was asked to write sections of an aritcle, told repeatedly I was being called for the article, told repeatedly I would be cited, subjects called requested I be contacted, and then I was asked to edit the final product.

by Rob Maysey on Oct 16, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Indeed-

All of the above, and more, occurred. In addition, my article was first—by days.

Neverheless, after receiving the final version to edit, I was quite shocked to see, “as first reported by _____________”. No mention of my site at all. I was more than shocked—amazed, and incredibly insulted.

I asked about this, as the person who sent it to me to edit was well aware it was untrue—and the reply was, “Oh, you are not a media outlet.”

by Rob Maysey on Oct 16, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rob – I’m very confused. I don’t even understand what you’re talking about. Please explain.

by Luke Thomas on Oct 16, 2008 5:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think what Rob is saying...

is that he has written articles on a topic, was asked to write sections of an article, was asked to edit a final product on topics. And when the time comes for him to get credit it doesn’t come because he is not considered a “media outlet” as a blogger.

But I could be wrong on my translation.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Oct 16, 2008 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Job

Brent pretty much nailed it—not only not given credit, others cited as the original source with full knowledge of the author that it was an incorrect statement.

What is a “media outlet” anyway?

Have any of you encountered this?

by Rob Maysey on Oct 16, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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